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#1 Ravenchrome
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Just like the Ancient Greeks has many gods for different domains/aspects of live, there should be many gods for different aspects of graphics instead an all-powerful graphics god. Let's face it, no game is the best in all graphical aspects.

So, it should be like this:

Graphics God of Lighting/Illumination

Graphics God of Shadow

Graphics God of Polygon

Graphics God of Draw Distance

Graphics God of Texture

Graphics God of Particle

Graphics God of Volumetric Object

Graphics God of Scale

etc.

This is better as it avoids many flame wars by having only one game as all-reigning king,lord, whatever.

We all know that some games are better at some aspects, and some are better at other aspects.

It just happens that Crysis is the bar in many aspects, but I am sure not all aspects go to Crysis.

For Instance, I think Metro 2033 (PC) has better particle effects.

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#2 soulitane
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Why over complicate it?
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#3 AAllxxjjnn
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PC wins in all sections.
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#4 Ravenchrome
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Why over complicate it?soulitane
Because a game might have better models, etc but the other might have better lighting, shadow,etc.

So its more appropriate.

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#5 Ravenchrome
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PC wins in all sections. AAllxxjjnn
I am speaking about games, regardless as any platform.

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#6 oldkingallant
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Ummmmmmm

Crysis

Done. All categories :P.

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#7 AmayaPapaya
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Whatever it is, Crysis doesn't win as it lost to Uncharted 2 long ago.

nah jk

[spoiler] or maybe not :o [/spoiler]

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#8 Ravenchrome
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Ummmmmmm

Crysis

Done. All categories :P.

oldkingallant

I disagree, Crysis might be the God of scale and texture but I think Metro 2033 is the God of Particle Effects.

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#9 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Ummmmmmm

Crysis

Done. All categories :P.

Ravenchrome

I disagree, Crysis might be the God of scale and texture but I think Metro 2033 is the God of Particle Effects.

Maybe against vanilla Crysis, but with mods... all I even need is a video to see it wins that.
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#10 waltefmoney
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Graphics God of Nathan Drake: Uncharted 2.

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#11 AmayaPapaya
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BTW, I will say that the Pants King is Zelda SS.

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#12 Mystic-G
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I personally think Arma II has the best lighting, but I guess it's more of opinion since I like the realistic look to it.

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#13 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Why over complicate it?Ravenchrome

Because a game might have better models, etc but the other might have better lighting, shadow,etc.

So its more appropriate.

If by more appropriate you mean causing more useless threads about graphics then yes.
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Well Crysis still wins in quite a few of those categories. The only ones I dont think it would win in are Scale and Draw Distance, which should go to ArmA 2.
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#15 oldkingallant
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Whatever it is, Crysis doesn't win as it lost to Uncharted 2 long ago.

nah jk

or maybe not :o

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Nahhhhh but really Crysis was never beaten by no Uncharted 2. BUT IT WAS BY KILLZONE 2!.... Nahhhhhhh but really it has never been beaten.

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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Why over complicate it?Ravenchrome

Because a game might have better models, etc but the other might have better lighting, shadow,etc.

So its more appropriate.

That is exactly how it overcomplicats stuff though, if we are talking in terms of just models for example and nothing else, crysis would be very far down the line since say their characters are extremely low poly compared to things like uncharted 2's. However when you put all the aspects together on crysis like lighting, textures, shaders, etc it comes out swinging with some of the best character models in any game.
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#17 Mystic-G
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Well Crysis still wins in quite a few of those categories. The only ones I dont think it would win in are Scale and Draw Distance, which should go to ArmA 2. Iantheone
Draw distance goes to Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising actually.
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#18 worknow222
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to me reach is graphics kind of Skyboxes, metro, for particles and crysis fo reverything else, WE ALL WIN!!! :)

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#19 Ravenchrome
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[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]Why over complicate it?ferret-gamer

Because a game might have better models, etc but the other might have better lighting, shadow,etc.

So its more appropriate.

That is exactly how it overcomplicats stuff though, if we are talking in terms of just models for example and nothing else, crysis would be very far down the line since say their characters are extremely low poly compared to things like uncharted 2's. However when you put all the aspects together on crysis like lighting, textures, shaders, etc it comes out swinging with some of the best character models in any game.

Are you saying Polygon is easier to render than other aspects? Because Uncharted 2 opt for higher poly and its on PS3.

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#20 hypoty
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Ummmmmmm

Crysis

Done. All categories :P.

Ravenchrome

I disagree, Crysis might be the God of scale and texture but I think Metro 2033 is the God of Particle Effects.

I used this mod for Crysis and I was absolutely floored by the particle effects. Metro might have better subtle effects, so I don't think they can be compared to an extent.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Ravenchrome"] Because a game might have better models, etc but the other might have better lighting, shadow,etc.

So its more appropriate.

Ravenchrome

That is exactly how it overcomplicats stuff though, if we are talking in terms of just models for example and nothing else, crysis would be very far down the line since say their characters are extremely low poly compared to things like uncharted 2's. However when you put all the aspects together on crysis like lighting, textures, shaders, etc it comes out swinging with some of the best character models in any game.

Are you saying Polygon is easier to render than other aspects? Because Uncharted 2 opt for higher poly and its on PS3.

im explaining that breaking it down to aspects can get complicated, if we are just comparing the raw models crysis wouldnt be very impressive, the main characters have around 4K polys while Uncharted 2 characters have around 30K polys. If we were just looking at that data and only comparing models alone then uncharted 2 would win easily with a 7.5x model complexity over crysis. But if we take everything into consideration that impacts the character models Crysis would still easily have the more detailed models based on the rest of the aspects that effect the model in the actual game.
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#22 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Ummmmmmm

Crysis

Done. All categories :P.

hypoty

I disagree, Crysis might be the God of scale and texture but I think Metro 2033 is the God of Particle Effects.

I used this mod for Crysis and I was absolutely floored by the particle effects. Metro might have better subtle effects, so I don't think they can be compared to an extent.

Exactly the mod I was referring to.
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#23 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Ummmmmmm

Crysis

Done. All categories :P.

hypoty

I disagree, Crysis might be the God of scale and texture but I think Metro 2033 is the God of Particle Effects.

I used this mod for Crysis and I was absolutely floored by the particle effects. Metro might have better subtle effects, so I don't think they can be compared to an extent.

I think we're better off not including mods. When you include mods, you stop referring to the game and start referring to the engine it's running on. And engine's can't be crowned when you're talking about the games themselves.
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#24 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"] I disagree, Crysis might be the God of scale and texture but I think Metro 2033 is the God of Particle Effects.

Mystic-G

I used this mod for Crysis and I was absolutely floored by the particle effects. Metro might have better subtle effects, so I don't think they can be compared to an extent.

I think we're better off not including mods. When you include mods, you stop referring to the game and start referring to the engine it's running on. And engine's can't be crowned when you're talking about the games themselves.

But mods are a part of PC gaming and therefore can be included.
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#25 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

I used this mod for Crysis and I was absolutely floored by the particle effects. Metro might have better subtle effects, so I don't think they can be compared to an extent.

oldkingallant

I think we're better off not including mods. When you include mods, you stop referring to the game and start referring to the engine it's running on. And engine's can't be crowned when you're talking about the games themselves.

But mods are a part of PC gaming and therefore can be included.

Yes they are, but like I said... once you start going into mod, you stop talking about the game itself and start referring to the engine's capabilities. Last I checked this was about the games themselves and not about how 1337 the engine is.

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#26 Epak_
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[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"]

Ummmmmmm

Crysis

Done. All categories :P.

hypoty

I disagree, Crysis might be the God of scale and texture but I think Metro 2033 is the God of Particle Effects.

I used this mod for Crysis and I was absolutely floored by the particle effects. Metro might have better subtle effects, so I don't think they can be compared to an extent.

Amazing! Especially at 3:35 :D

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#27 Bikouchu35
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All/most graphics thread turns into a Crysis thread :P I just noticed the pattern.

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#28 Mystic-G
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All/most graphics thread turns into a Crysis thread :P I just noticed the pattern.

Bikouchu35
You're 3 years late on that lol...
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When do we get to sacrifice bulls to these gods?

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#30 popopatrol
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This is super lame. There is only one "graphics king" and that is crysis. Even then the title of graphics king is silly and pointless because graphics is not what makes a game and it seems dumb to call a game a graphics king. Its sillier to add "kings" for different things that honestly is just a pathetic attempt at getting a "win". However when it comes down to it this whole arguing over which console is better is pathetic. People complain about govt beeing just a bunch of loud mouth idiots, when oh hey guess what its the same type of people just arguing over different things on these forums

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#31 oldkingallant
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When do we get to sacrifice bulls to these gods?

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Eff Bulls. We're doing this the old fashioned way, time for the lottery. Everyone pull a piece of paper out of the hat. Mine's just blank white... OH NO Vesica_Prime got the black dot!!!! EVERYONE GRAB A ROCK AND STONE VESICA_PRIME FOR HARVEST!!!!! :P
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#32 oldkingallant
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This is super lame. There is only one "graphics king" and that is crysis. Even then the title of graphics king is silly and pointless because graphics is not what makes a game and it seems dumb to call a game a graphics king. Its sillier to add "kings" for different things that honestly is just a pathetic attempt at getting a "win". However when it comes down to it this whole arguing over which console is better is pathetic. People complain about govt beeing just a bunch of loud mouth idiots, when oh hey guess what its the same type of people just arguing over different things on these forums

popopatrol
Seriously we could be as ridiculous as we wanted with these things: Looking at water from a distance king Palm tree king Bolts in steel walls textures king Ripped abs king It can get so ridiculous, but it won't change the fact that none of those kings have as good graphics as Crysis.
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

When do we get to sacrifice bulls to these gods?

oldkingallant

Eff Bulls. We're doing this the old fashioned way, time for the lottery. Everyone pull a piece of paper out of the hat. Mine's just blank white... OH NO Vesica_Prime got the black dot!!!! EVERYONE GRAB A ROCK AND STONE VESICA_PRIME FOR HARVEST!!!!! :P

Aww.... But i wanted to sacrifice a cow to the gods :cry:

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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"] I think we're better off not including mods. When you include mods, you stop referring to the game and start referring to the engine it's running on. And engine's can't be crowned when you're talking about the games themselves.Mystic-G

But mods are a part of PC gaming and therefore can be included.

Yes they are, but like I said... once you start going into mod, you stop talking about the game itself and start referring to the engine's capabilities. Last I checked this was about the games themselves and not about how 1337 the engine is.

I see your point and I used to say the same thing, but really you can't stop it, PC gamers will argue forever that when they play Crysis on their rig those mods are in effect and therefore part of the game, and honestly I see their point to an extent, so really for all intents and purposes I say just count em and don't worry about it.
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#35 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

When do we get to sacrifice bulls to these gods?

ferret-gamer

Eff Bulls. We're doing this the old fashioned way, time for the lottery. Everyone pull a piece of paper out of the hat. Mine's just blank white... OH NO Vesica_Prime got the black dot!!!! EVERYONE GRAB A ROCK AND STONE VESICA_PRIME FOR HARVEST!!!!! :P

Aww.... But i wanted to sacrifice a cow to the gods :cry:

P**** only humans get the job done. Although you know, PS3 fanboys... Cows... get one of em over here and we'll work it out.

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#36 Vesica_Prime
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

When do we get to sacrifice bulls to these gods?

oldkingallant

Eff Bulls. We're doing this the old fashioned way, time for the lottery. Everyone pull a piece of paper out of the hat. Mine's just blank white... OH NO Vesica_Prime got the black dot!!!! EVERYONE GRAB A ROCK AND STONE VESICA_PRIME FOR HARVEST!!!!! :P

So that's how the corn is harvested around here. Intriguing. :P

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#37 skrat_01
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This is beyond normal SW silly. There is one 'graphics king' to proclaim. Anything else defeats the purpose.