Graphics DO matter. Here's why...

With all the hate on how graphics do not matter but only gameplay you are wrong. The better the graphics (realistic or artistic), the more immersed you feel in the game combined with the great gameplay. They go hand in hand. The term NEXT-GEN mostly refers to next-generation graphics, physics, technical stuff....

If graphics don't matter than does that mean you wouldn't care to play MGS4, Gears, Uncharted, Halo, Half-Life, Crysis, etc with pong-like graphics???

More power/Graphics = New gameplay

Graphics ARE important, but not more than gameplay, artst*yle, control, story, etc. Those that think a game is made by the graphics are focusing on the wrong thing.

When people say graphics don't matter it's because people like you say "omg gfx king eberyting else pwn3d!!11!"

Yeah graphics matter to a certain extent, but GAMEplay should matter most.

Graphics matter for reviewers...just look at Uncharted 2. If that game looked average or mediocre, it would get a 6.Meltedweasel

as long as the gameplay is there it doesnt matter. crysis on low is the same game as crysis maxed its just as fun. difference is maxed is just that much better.

doesnt mean low is bad.

so no graphics dont matter.

BUT

they usually go hand in hand.

the top games pretty much all had/have the top graphics for their time.

With all the hate on how graphics do not matter but only gameplay you are wrong. The better the graphics (realistic or artistic), the more immersed you feel in the game combined with the great gameplay. They go hand in hand. The term NEXT-GEN mostly refers to next-generation graphics, physics, technical stuff....

If graphics don't matter than does that mean you wouldn't care to play MGS4, Gears, Uncharted, Halo, Half-Life, Crysis, etc with pong-like graphics???

Blazerdt47

I thought everyone already knew you need both graphics and gamplay to illustrate the atmosphere when necassary. (I.E. Dead Space).

Graphics matter for reviewers...just look at Uncharted 2. If that game looked average or mediocre, it would get a 6.Meltedweasel

Agreed. Do we really need a "We need to appreciate graphics more!" thread? I mean, we get graphic comparison and those kind of threads every 15 minutes.

as long as the gameplay is there it doesnt matter. crysis on low is the same game as crysis maxed its just as fun. difference is maxed is just that much better.

doesnt mean low is bad.

so no graphics dont matter.

BUT

they usually go hand in hand.

the top games pretty much all had/have the top graphics for their time.

washd123

They go hand in hand, they are both important.

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]Graphics matter for reviewers...just look at Uncharted 2. If that game looked average or mediocre, it would get a 6.bleehum

Gamelay > Story > playing with friends (if applicable) > replayability > graphicsshadow_hosi

Deus Ex had poor graphics when it was released and that's one of the most immersive games out there. Many even say it's the best game ever made.

Usually it's the soundtrack that immerses me into a game.

I've never been one to say that 'graphics' don't matter, but I am one that believes that jaw-dropping visuals aren't entirely needed to create an amazing gameplay experience. I'm not saying that I don't like it when a game looks great, but a game's true worth lies in how it manages to incorporate ALL of its elements, not just a few. Even within the topic of 'graphics' itself, I find it a little more complex. For instance, I can deal with a game's visuals if it's a bit technologically behind, but has the artistic value to more than make up for it. However, if a game is broken in other areas, I couldn't care less how it looked. I would just look at screenshots and videos of it and save myself both the money and the horror of having to play it. To that extent, graphics, visuals, horsepower, or any of similar term has no profound impact on what I play and enjoy.

I agree with the topic's point; graphics indeed matter. However, if that was the ONLY thing a game was judged on, I would never go back and play the classic games of yesteryear, as they would be deemed irrelevant by most of today's standards. I'm all for a game looking good, but I like it more when it PLAYS good. :P

[QUOTE="washd123"]

as long as the gameplay is there it doesnt matter. crysis on low is the same game as crysis maxed its just as fun. difference is maxed is just that much better.

doesnt mean low is bad.

so no graphics dont matter.

BUT

they usually go hand in hand.

the top games pretty much all had/have the top graphics for their time.

Blazerdt47

Graphics matter for reviewers...just look at Uncharted 2. If that game looked average or mediocre, it would get a 6.Meltedweasel

Let me guess, Gears of War is one of your favorite games lol. what lem

[QUOTE="Meltedweasel"]Graphics matter for reviewers...just look at Uncharted 2. If that game looked average or mediocre, it would get a 6.bokiloki

Let me guess, Gears of War is one of your favorite games lol. what lem

Graphics do matter but gameplay matters even more.

But with Crysis on MAX you would feel more immersed into the game.Blazerdt47

yes but the game itself doesnt change.

the game may be 'better; but its not 'worse' on low.

if you take away a games graphics and it becomes worse or unplayable then it was never a good game to begin with.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]But with Crysis on MAX you would feel more immersed into the game.washd123

yes but the game itself doesnt change.

the game may be 'better; but its not 'worse' on low.

if you take away a games graphics and it becomes worse or unplayable then it was never a good game to begin with.

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]But with Crysis on MAX you would feel more immersed into the game.washd123

yes but the game itself doesnt change.

the game may be 'better; but its not 'worse' on low.

if you take away a games graphics and it becomes worse or unplayable then it was never a good game to begin with.

You can take a game with average gameplay(Uncharted) but with impressive graphics and suddenly it's something special. Game gets raving reviews and people like it. Meltedweasel

or you know maybe its actually a good game that has good gameplay?

not being original doesnt mean its mediocre

Dead rising and it's unreadable SD text begs to differ here sir :Psalxis

are you talking about the wii version?

Noone is saying graphics doesnt matter. what most people mean is that it does not matter the most. The core gameplay of the game is what matter most. Graphics is a bonus, extra enjoyment for the game.

MGS4, gears, and uncharted are meh games that only have graphics going for them the rest would be fun regardless of graphical prowessshadow_hosi

How many crappy SciFi channel shows have much better graphics than Family Guy or The Simpsons, but aren't worth their weight in poo?

I can tell you as a matter of fact that Chrono Cross is still a superior game and more fun to play than current day JRPGs. Despite their superior graphics.

Graphics don't matter. Only artwork. Gameplay is king.

They do matter but gameplay does too. If U2 didn't have fun gameplay, I wouldn't be buying it and if Brawl's graphics were like Melee's, I'd rather play Melee.

They go hand in hand, both are important.

Next gen = More space!!! For longer stories, more gameplay mechanics:D!!!! :|...and yes ::sigh:: better graphics...:(

Graphics ARE important, but not more than gameplay, artst*yle, control, story, etc. Those that think a game is made by the graphics are focusing on the wrong thing.

jimkabrhel

Yep.

With all the hate on how graphics do not matter but only gameplay you are wrong. The better the graphics (realistic or artistic), the more immersed you feel in the game combined with the great gameplay. They go hand in hand. The term NEXT-GEN mostly refers to next-generation graphics, physics, technical stuff....

If graphics don't matter than does that mean you wouldn't care to play MGS4, Gears, Uncharted, Halo, Half-Life, Crysis, etc with pong-like graphics???

Blazerdt47

If graphics matters, then why use a console? The PS3 uses a modified nVidia 7800 GTX (which is 5 years old), and nVidia has made since then the 8, 9, 100, 200-Series GPUs, and is now working on the 300-Series.

The original Xbox used a modified GeForce 4-Series GPU, and the 360 uses the ATI Xenos (precursor to the R600 Series).

Here is an example: I bought "Devil May Cry 4" for the PC. On the back of the box was printed "Optimized for both 64-bit and Direct-X 10". I have played games under XP with DX 9.0c (7800 GTX card) and DX 10.0 (9-Series nVidia), and there is a noticeable difference in graphics quality.:)

I disagree. I don't need to feel immersed as long as it's fun...XD Hell, me and my friends play Worms all the time, and that's 2D and not that great-looking even for a 2D game.

Sure graphics matter, I'm just not going to whore them like a lot of people do. I have my own standards, as long as those are met I'm good.

Graphics matters just like any part of a game depends on the game though like you wouldn't want photorealistic graphics on a platformer. It just doesn't matter like the other parts of a game.

Deus Ex had poor graphics when it was released and that's one of the most immersive games out there. Many even say it's the best game ever made.

Usually it's the soundtrack that immerses me into a game.

N0d0

Is it just me or does the games with superior graphics end up being just end up being also superior in gameplay ?

Uncharted: fantastic animations and awesome cover system = awesome gameplay + graphics.

Killzone 2: Realistic animations, extra realistic mechanics = awesome gameplay + graphics.

GeoW: extra awesome cover system, cool gore **** = awesome gameplay + graphics.

MGS4: where should I start = awesome gameplay + graphics.

Another point: "Gameplay" makes the game fun to play, "Graphics" makes the game fun to look at, it's just a matter of what kind of person the player is.