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#1 Nega3
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How advanced do you think graphics for next generation will be?

IMO, it could probably be as advanced as CGI in FFXIII? It'd make sense. Seeing that the CGI in most games this gen are a bit more advanced than Crysis. Mind you, I am a n00b when it comes to technical stuff like processors and GPUs etc.

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#2 Jamani
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This forum should be called systemgraphics...
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#3 Arach666
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Probably around the quality of some Crysis mods...unless they go the Wii way(consoles,that is):P
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#4 Km0n
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How advanced do you think graphics for next generation will be?

IMO, it could probably be as advanced as CGI in FFXIII? It'd make sense. Seeing that the CGI in most games this gen are a bit more advanced than Crysis. Mind you, I am a n00b when it comes to technical stuff like processors and GPUs etc.

Discuss.

Nega3

i read it somewhere that this is as graphicall as its gonna get so next gen i dont think its gonna be any advance but rather inovation

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Probably around the quality of some Crysis mods...unless they go the Wii way(consoles,that is):PArach666

The next set of consoles will be what Pc users have been using foryears. All you need to do with the next set of consoles is add more memory and add $100 Pc Gpu (ATI 4850,Nvidia GTS 250) and consolers will be like OMG the Graphics!

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#6 BPoole96
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Probably around the quality of some Crysis mods...unless they go the Wii way(consoles,that is):PArach666

Ugh don't even say that. I will quit playing games if Sony and MS take the direction of Nintendo in its entirety

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]Probably around the quality of some Crysis mods...unless they go the Wii way(consoles,that is):P04dcarraher

The next set of consoles will be what Pc users have been using foryears. All you need to do with the next set of consoles is add more memory and add $100 Pc Gpu (ATI 4850,Nvidia GTS 250) and consolers will be like OMG the Graphics!

It will probably be on par tech wise with a high-end PC at the time, like when the 360 launched.
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#8 slipknot0129
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I just hope theres alot more charactors on screen with no frame rate drops and 1080p.

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#9 Mogotoo
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Well, if we compare last gen to this gen:

Super Mario Sunshine

Super Mario Galaxy

Grand Theft Auto 3

Grand Theft Auto 4

Perhaps CGI gameplay is not too far away?

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#10 Moo-Moo-Milk
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I hope it goes back to so far that a lot of the people on this forum will leave and go back to playing games.
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#11 princeofshapeir
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Consoles - Crysis 1 quality. PC games - CG quality, or extremely close to it.
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#12 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Consoles - Crysis 1 quality. PC games - CG quality, or extremely close to it.

Consoles will easily surpass vanilla Crysis 1 - it's a 2007 game after all, the tech has been out there for a while now.
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#13 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Consoles - Crysis 1 quality. PC games - CG quality, or extremely close to it.

Consoles will easily surpass vanilla Crysis 1 - it's a 2007 game after all, the tech has been out there for a while now.

Alright then, Crysis 1 with mods. Maybe that's what you'll see when the new consoles first launch. Then later on you'll see them approach Crysis 2 PC quality. :D
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#14 Yangire
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]Probably around the quality of some Crysis mods...unless they go the Wii way(consoles,that is):PBPoole96

Ugh don't even say that. I will quit playing games if Sony and MS take the direction of Nintendo in its entirety

Why? Because the graphics wouldn't be topnotch?

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#15 Rikusaki
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This forum should be called systemgraphics...Jamani
Or GraphicsWars. :P
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#16 bigM10231
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if the person in the game doesnt look as real as your hand it isnt the best graphics possible

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#17 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Consoles - Crysis 1 quality. PC games - CG quality, or extremely close to it.princeofshapeir
Consoles will easily surpass vanilla Crysis 1 - it's a 2007 game after all, the tech has been out there for a while now.

Alright then, Crysis 1 with mods. Maybe that's what you'll see when the new consoles first launch. Then later on you'll see them approach Crysis 2 PC quality. :D

That won´t be easy,since Crysis 2 won´t be anywhere near as good looking as some Crysis mods;)

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]Probably around the quality of some Crysis mods...unless they go the Wii way(consoles,that is):PRavensmash

The next set of consoles will be what Pc users have been using foryears. All you need to do with the next set of consoles is add more memory and add $100 Pc Gpu (ATI 4850,Nvidia GTS 250) and consolers will be like OMG the Graphics!

It will probably be on par tech wise with a high-end PC at the time, like when the 360 launched.

The 360 wasn't comparable to a high end pc, kind of like a upper mid range.
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#19 OreoMilkshake
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Every game on the PS4 will be graphics king. That's all I know.
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#20 silversix_
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Graphics aren't the only improvement i'm expecting. Physics needs to be way better too. Most of games on a current gen system have last gen physics and thats suck becouse great physics improves gameplay a lot. Graphics of CGI FF13 won't happen but i think it'll be a big difference (just like from ps2 to ps3, from xbox to 360 and GC to Wii... oh wait lol)
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#21 GTSaiyanjin2
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I'm expecting then to have a better graphics card than a GTX 480. When the 360 was released the GPU it had was more advance than any GPU out there, even if it only was for a few weeks/months.

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#22 kurama2002
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It will look better than Crysis 1 almost way better. The next gen consoles will come out in about 2-3 years, that means by then new graphics card will be more advanced as they are now. Example of this is the new handhelds (PSP 2, N3DS), they are supposed to have the same graphic quality as last gen (gamecube, ps2, xbox). So we can expect by 2013 that the graphics cards they put in consoles will be a big jump.

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#23 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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It will look better than Crysis 1 almost way better. The next gen consoles will come out in about 2-3 years, that means by then new graphics card will be more advanced as they are now. Example of this is the new handhelds (PSP 2, N3DS), they are supposed to have the same graphic quality as last gen (gamecube, ps2, xbox). So we can expect by 2013 that the graphics cards they put in consoles will be a big jump.

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Next gen graphics on consoles will easily surpass crysis. You have to first look at the fact that in a couple of years running Crysis will be dirt cheap (although it's already pretty cheap), combined with all the little tricks developers do to make console games look better....
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#24 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]Probably around the quality of some Crysis mods...unless they go the Wii way(consoles,that is):PYangire

Ugh don't even say that. I will quit playing games if Sony and MS take the direction of Nintendo in its entirety

Why? Because the graphics wouldn't be topnotch?

Nah mainly because of the motion control standard

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#25 monson21502
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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Probably around the quality of some Crysis mods...unless they go the Wii way(consoles,that is):PArach666

Ugh don't even say that. I will quit playing games if Sony and MS take the direction of Nintendo in its entirety

Why? Because the graphics wouldn't be topnotch?

no nintendo gave up on console. they just used what has worked on their handheld market. cheap small upgrade with a twist. if the wii had flopped i think nintendo would have stopped making consoles and just released hand helds. and made their console metriods marios, zeldas on other consoles. but the wii was a home run. and took them back to the top where their handhelds have always been...
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#26 anshul89
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Next gen consoles will launch for $250, so there won't be much improvement. Just like the GC -> Wii.

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#27 hamzah1235
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They will produce graphics that are a generation ahead of Crysis...

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#28 savagetwinkie
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Hardware is cheap now so expect a big leap, not big enough to make $600 systems again

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#29 monson21502
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Next gen consoles will launch for $250, so there won't be much improvement. Just like the GC -> Wii.

anshul89

we all got ripped off this gen. 600 and 400 bucks for systems that needed a new hdtv to have hd graphics :roll: for those prices ps3/360 should have looked hd without a new tv. least back when neo geo was out and cost so much. it did make you feel like you just bought a new 3000 dollar aracde machine every time you bought a new game.

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#30 soulitane
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]

Next gen consoles will launch for $250, so there won't be much improvement. Just like the GC -> Wii.

monson21502

we all got ripped off this gen. 600 and 400 bucks for systems that needed a new hdtv to have hd graphics :roll: for those prices ps3/360 should have looked hd without a new tv. least back when neo geo was out and cost so much. it did make you feel like you just bought a new 3000 dollar aracde machine every time you bought a new game.

How can a game look HD without being HD? You should of known before buying that you would need an HDTV.
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#31 04dcarraher
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Hardware is cheap now so expect a big leap, not big enough to make $600 systems again

savagetwinkie

Lol, ya expect $100 type of gpus's in the next set of consoles because even those are 3-4x faster then current console gpus. And Most will fall for it,

And if you want powerhouses you wont get them, if you expect low prices. If you want direct x 11 gpu's 6-8 core cpu's and 4gb with the consoles expect $700+ priced consoles. They will use older tech/cheaper tech to save money while giving consolers a upgraded console from todays, with$100 type of pc gpu's.

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The future

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#33 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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They will produce graphics that are a generation ahead of Crysis...

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well yeah since they will be next generation consoles i would assume the games they play to be next gen. However i am very doubtful that the AVERAGE game will be graphically superior to crysis, much less modded crysis. For more reasons than just raw power, think development costs, time, etc. Not every game has a 20million dollar budget.
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#34 Lost-Memory
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[QUOTE="Nega3"]

How advanced do you think graphics for next generation will be?

IMO, it could probably be as advanced as CGI in FFXIII? It'd make sense. Seeing that the CGI in most games this gen are a bit more advanced than Crysis. Mind you, I am a n00b when it comes to technical stuff like processors and GPUs etc.

Discuss.

Km0n

i read it somewhere that this is as graphicall as its gonna get so next gen i dont think its gonna be any advance but rather inovation

No, There is always room for improvement.
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#35 elchiquilin
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Maybe native 1080p, even 1200p? maybe the same as a high end pc of today?
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#36 Tessellation
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graphics really? when are you guys gonna speak about gameplay/story telling etc? this generation is horrible,games are all graphics and that it.,hell even thinking about next gen and graphics..bleh.
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#37 EnergyAbsorber
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Maybe native 1080p, even 1200p? maybe the same as a high end pc of today?elchiquilin

Well resolution and graphics are two different things. But I'd rather they just focus on making as many games native 1080p as possible for next-gen. Instead of coming out with an even higher resolution that most games wont even support. Like what happened this gen with 1080p. Most games this gendont support it.

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#38 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Maybe native 1080p, even 1200p? maybe the same as a high end pc of today?elchiquilin
lol, 1200p being high end pc of today. Check back to 2003 or further.
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#39 Wings_008
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i have a feeling that next gen will be very expensive (am talking 500$)
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#40 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="Mogotoo"]

Well, if we compare last gen to this gen:

Super Mario Sunshine

Super Mario Galaxy

Grand Theft Auto 3

Grand Theft Auto 4

Perhaps CGI gameplay is not too far away?

CGI "graphics" will improve too. Look at ps1, ps2 CGI and compare that to FF13 CGI.
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#41 mayceV
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launch games shoul look like crysis, that is if the specs I think will be implemented are right. that is. I think the next xbox would have a GPU based off of the Radeon 5970 with a bit more umph to it. The CPu would be equvelent in power to a intel i5 at 3.2 GHz. couple that with about 3 Gb of RAM and you can easily exceed crysis on maximum if the game is welly optimized. you're probably thinking "WTF a 5970? keep dreaming" but remember tech like that would be old come 2013-2014. crysis would probably look average to slightly below come the middle of next gen.
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I think the biggest constraint for graphics, at this point, is time. They can probably do better than they are now, but simply don't have the time to do it all before their games are supposed to ship. I expect next gen to be graphically on par with this gen, but have higher resolutions and better framerates.

I'd rather see much more interactivity with game worlds rather than better graphics to be honest. A game that looks great, but you can't really do anything in isn't as exciting as a game that looks okay but everything has an interaction.

I think of RE5, a game that had good graphics, but the the game world was so static it was pointless.

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#43 AdjacentLives
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Crysis with it's best looking mods would be amazing at 1080p native resolution on a console.

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#44 Brainhunter
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Graphics will improve, but this generation, I believe we've reached the point of dimishing returns. There will be other aspects to improve the game experience, such as physics, procedural or full-scale destruction, particle effects, animations, etc.
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#45 treedoor
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Pretty damn certain all consoles will go the Wii way next gen.

Else it'll be a mass dev suicide. No company would be safe from bankruptcy with a big jump in graphics from this gen.

It's nasty to think that Ubisoft can make over a billion dollars off games like Assassin's Creed 2, hundreds of millions off other games like Just Dance, and still come out in the red.

And it's not just them. Dozens of devs are in the red quarter after quarter.

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#46 RavenLoud
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Pretty damn certain all consoles will go the Wii way next gen.

Else it'll be a mass dev suicide. No company would be safe from bankruptcy with a big jump in graphics from this gen.

It's nasty to think that Ubisoft can make over a billion dollars off games like Assassin's Creed 2, hundreds of millions off other games like Just Dance, and still come out in the red.

And it's not just them. Dozens of devs are in the red quarter after quarter.

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True, but that may have something to do with the economy in general too. I think it will go the Wii route as well, but consoles will no longer be so bottlenecked by the lack of RAM and become able to produce 1080p graphics with realistic physics and animations instead of teh graphic jump.
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#47 razgriz_101
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Pretty damn certain all consoles will go the Wii way next gen.

Else it'll be a mass dev suicide. No company would be safe from bankruptcy with a big jump in graphics from this gen.

It's nasty to think that Ubisoft can make over a billion dollars off games like Assassin's Creed 2, hundreds of millions off other games like Just Dance, and still come out in the red.

And it's not just them. Dozens of devs are in the red quarter after quarter.

treedoor

i can see Sony doing a wii-esque approach but beefing up the bluray so it would be a PS3.5 in a way.Dunno bout MS depends on how much of the casual market gets intrested in natal.

But i agree it would be madness to jump another big step.

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#48 Blade8Aus
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Graphics aren't the only improvement i'm expecting. Physics needs to be way better too. Most of games on a current gen system have last gen physics and thats suck becouse great physics improves gameplay a lot. Graphics of CGI FF13 won't happen but i think it'll be a big difference (just like from ps2 to ps3, from xbox to 360 and GC to Wii... oh wait lol)silversix_

That will probably change when Crysis 2 comes out for console. But yes, Physics should have massive improvements since each console will probably have hardware accellerated physics.

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#49 Bus-A-Bus
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Consoles will look considerably better then Crysis with mods,and PC will look about the same when consoles come out...when year or two passes PCs are going for CGI.

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#50 omho88
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as a gfx whore, i think the next generation of consoles will be the last one. Yeah, gfx will be that good !!!! :D