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#1 loosingENDS
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So, 2011 big guns are all out and graphics king debate is over for this year

What will be 2012 console graphics king ? Speculation may start now

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I vote for the below in order

1. Ryse (updated Cryengine 3, xbox 360)

2. Witcher 2 (updated engine)

3. Mass Effect 3 (updated Unreal engine)

4. Fable Journey (updated Unreal engine)

5. Bishock Infinite

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As for art

1. Fable Journey (360)

2. Ryse (360)

3. Bravely Default (3DS)

4. Alan wake Night Springs (360)

5. Dust elysian Tale (360)

6. Dragons Crown (PS3)

7. Last Guardian (PS3)

8. Ni no Kuni (PS3)

9. Project Draco (360)

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What are your picks ?

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#2 soulitane
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Has Ryse even been shown? Also, ni no kuni's graphics are better than all of those games bar maybe bioshock infinite :P
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#3 loosingENDS
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Has Ryse even been shown? Also, ni no kuni's graphics are better than all of those games bar maybe bioshock infinite :Psoulitane

They look about same as Eternal Sonata, only a bit behind technically

The only reason i mention Ni no Kuni is because i liked ES and generally this art, it is not my best, but like it a lot

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#4 mitu123
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Has Ryse even been shown? soulitane
Yes, his sig has a pic of it.

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#5 Snakemaster9
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The Last Guardian :P

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#6 PAL360
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Out from the games we already know, probably The Witcher 2 or GTA V.

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#7 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Has Ryse even been shown? mitu123

Yes, his sig has a pic of it.

and that seems like it's the only good screen of it :P Looked at the rest in the thread it linked to and they didn't look very good :P
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Out from the games we already know, probably The Witcher 2 or GTA V.

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Witcher 2 is defiantly a good bet, but i am sure Crytek will amaze with Ryse, they said will look night and day better than the multipltforms Crysis 1-2

Alan Wake has a good chance too, if they can increase resolution will definatly compete, it is still one of my top looking games this generation and was marked down for the resolution mainly

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/288214/interviews/crytek-were-looking-at-other-genres/

And generally, I think that the Xbox 360 is a platform that has not yet been maximised, but that's true for the PS3 as well to be fair.

But I think when we put Crysis 2 out we will show a level that is, multiplatform-wise, maxing out, but we will look into with Microsoft how Kingdoms can push the Xbox 360 110 percent, to its limits. When you're spending a multimillion budget only on the Xbox 360, that team will be able to crank out the last two or three percent left in the console. But I think that two or three percent will make the difference potentially between day and night that you cannot afford if you go multiplatform.

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#9 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Last Guardian...for both?

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#10 KevinButlerVP
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I wouldn't include a Kinect title in there... just saying
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#11 ActionRemix
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I haven't been following it, but from what I've seen of it, The Last Guardian wins both.
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#12 loosingENDS
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Last Guardian...for both?

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Technically looks very strange TBH, nice art though, still i prefer Fable, Ryse and Alan wake art by far



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best graphics will be definetely metro last light. i could careless about art style. i hate artistic colorSNIPER4321

Any good pics ?

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i expect great things from team ico.
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Reminds me a lot of Killzone, too dark to say i am impressed TBH

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#19 arbitor365
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farcry 3 is the only right answer for graphics

art style? i dont know. borderlands 2 or last guardian maybe?

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#20 RyviusARC
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For art style Ni no Kuni wins hands down.
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#21 Diviniuz
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Wow, this poll is god awful. But I have a question are we talking about the best looking game in 2012? or the best looking this gen?
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#22 Giancar
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Best graphics: a PC game...so scrap 360 and ps3 games out of the list Artistic: From what I've seen Ni no Kouni...maybe Last Guardian [QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] i could careless about art style. i hate artistic color

:|....lol
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Out from the games we already know, probably The Witcher 2 or GTA V.

loosingENDS

Witcher 2 is defiantly a good bet, but i am sure Crytek will amaze with Ryse, they said will look night and day better than the multipltforms Crysis 1-2

Alan Wake has a good chance too, if they can increase resolution will definatly compete, it is still one of my top looking games this generation and was marked down for the resolution mainly

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/288214/interviews/crytek-were-looking-at-other-genres/

And generally, I think that the Xbox 360 is a platform that has not yet been maximised, but that's true for the PS3 as well to be fair.

But I think when we put Crysis 2 out we will show a level that is, multiplatform-wise, maxing out, but we will look into with Microsoft how Kingdoms can push the Xbox 360 110 percent, to its limits. When you're spending a multimillion budget only on the Xbox 360, that team will be able to crank out the last two or three percent left in the console. But I think that two or three percent will make the difference potentially between day and night that you cannot afford if you go multiplatform.

I was once really excited for Ryse but if I told you that kinect didn't dampen that excitement at all I'd be lying. Don't get me wrong Kinect has its use in games like dance central for nice party/social atmospheres and for good laughs but do we really need Kinect in a game like Ryse?

I just feel MS is trying to force a square peg in a round hole. If it works then cool I guess but will it make the game more fun simply because it works? :? I mean MS could definitely prove me wrong and that would be great but if there was ever a game I'd want to really try in a demo before buying it'd be this one.

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#24 BlbecekBobecek
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The Last Guardian might very well end up being both graphics and art king.

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#25 loosingENDS
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The Last Guardian might very well end up being both graphics and art king.

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If they remove all that dithering and beat the updated Cryengine 3 that will be used in Ryse and Unreal engine used in Fable Journey, maybe

Witcher 2 is also already looking way better imo, both artistically and even more technically

And an updated Alan Wake engine will also be hard to touch

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#26 MushroomWig
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Obviously the last guardian.
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best graphics will be definetely metro last light. i could careless about art style. i hate artistic colorSNIPER4321

Its a sad day when people dont care bout artstyle and happily say corridor grey shooter 1000 will be the best :(

Ni No Kuni or Last Guardian for me artistically and visually both look absolutely stunning.

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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]best graphics will be definetely metro last light. i could careless about art style. i hate artistic colorrazgriz_101

Its a sad day when people dont care bout artstyle and happily say corridor grey shooter 1000 will be the best :(

Ni No Kuni or Last Guardian for me artistically and visually both look absolutely stunning.

That is why i separted art and technical aspect

Ni no Kuni and Last Guardian do look good artistically, but technically are far behind any of Ryse, Witcher 2, Fable Journey etc that use citting edge engines

As for art, i like Witcher 2, Fable Journey and Ryse best myself, then Alan Wake and last the japanese style ones like LG and Ni no Kuni and all of them far above Halo or Metro art

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#29 sukraj
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Far Cry 3

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#33 casharmy
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Has Ryse even been shown? Also, ni no kuni's graphics are better than all of those games bar maybe bioshock infinite :Psoulitane

I agree.

I was thinking that game before I entered the thread

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#34 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]best graphics will be definetely metro last light. i could careless about art style. i hate artistic colorSNIPER4321

Its a sad day when people dont care bout artstyle and happily say corridor grey shooter 1000 will be the best :(

Ni No Kuni or Last Guardian for me artistically and visually both look absolutely stunning.

lol. u expect me to like cartoony artsyle like ni no kuni?? Yes Brown/Grey color looks billion times Better. metro dark color is billion times better than ninukuni take a look at this  compare to  LOL!!!

Ni no Kuni has nice art, it was never compared technically to any of the other games, technically looks behind Eternal Sonata TBH

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#35 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Its a sad day when people dont care bout artstyle and happily say corridor grey shooter 1000 will be the best :(

Ni No Kuni or Last Guardian for me artistically and visually both look absolutely stunning.

TheGuardian03

That is why i separted art and technical aspect

Ni no Kuni and Last Guardian do look good artistically, but technically are far behind any of Ryse, Witcher 2, Fable Journey etc that use citting edge engines

As for art, i like Witcher 2, Fable Journey and Ryse best myself, then Alan Wake and last the japanese ****ones like LG and Ni no Kuni and all of them far above Halo or Metro art

How are they far behind ?

Just don't pull stuff from you know where and act like its fact or something.

Ni no Kuni looks no better than Eternal Sonata technically, in fact has some terrible low polygon places even in the new video, they are definatly not using much of PS3 in this one

Last Guardian looks better, but nothing special and has a lot of dithering, in fact has a huge lot of it, which distracts from the game a lot imo

Now comparing to the updated Unreal, Witcher 2 and Cryengine engines, they really look far behind to me technically

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You can't seriously believe that dithering you see in those lousy photoshopped screenshots will be actually in the game do you? It's so obvious it has been added later on or is caused by bad compression or some sort of post processing..

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#37 calvinsora
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Never heard art king. I'm glad people are stopping for just a moment to think about art design but it's a clear subset of graphics, which is a term over the visual aspect of a game. It should rather be tech king and art king instead. I only mind the overall design, so based on that, I'm pretty sure I'll think FFXIII-2 will come out on top, like XIII did last year for me.

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#38 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

So, 2011 big guns are all out and graphics king debate is over for this year

What will be 2012 console graphics king ? Speculation may start now

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I vote for the below in order

1. Ryse (updated Cryengine 3, xbox 360)

2. Witcher 2 (updated engine)

3. Mass Effect 3 (updated Unreal engine)

4. Fable Journey (updated Unreal engine)

5. Bishock Infinite

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As for art

1. Fable Journey (360)

2. Ryse (360)

3. Bravely Default (3DS)

4. Alan wake Night Springs (360)

5. Dust elysian Tale (360)

6. Dragons Crown (PS3)

7. Last Guardian (PS3)

8. Ni no Kuni (PS3)

9. Project Draco (360)

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What are your picks ?

CGK for 2011 is over? so you admit UC3 wins? lol
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#39 gpuking
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The Last Guardian for both art and technical king, if god of war 4 comes out then it would surely takes the technical king crown.
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]best graphics will be definetely metro last light. i could careless about art style. i hate artistic colorloosingENDS

Its a sad day when people dont care bout artstyle and happily say corridor grey shooter 1000 will be the best :(

Ni No Kuni or Last Guardian for me artistically and visually both look absolutely stunning.

That is why i separted art and technical aspect

Ni no Kuni and Last Guardian do look good artistically, but technically are far behind any of Ryse, Witcher 2, Fable Journey etc that use citting edge engines

As for art, i like Witcher 2, Fable Journey and Ryse best myself, then Alan Wake and last the japanese style ones like LG and Ni no Kuni and all of them far above Halo or Metro art

to be honest Artistic merit is much better, tbh i consider the Naruto games this gen some of the best looking around after seeing them at a mates house they are smooth, look great and by god they are better than lets throw brown and gray and see what sticks.

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Best graphics: The Last Guardian Best art: Paper Mario 3D It's not new a new art direction, but that style combined with 3D is eye sex for me.
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#42 loosingENDS
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You can't seriously believe that dithering you see in those lousy photoshopped screenshots will be actually in the game do you? It's so obvious it has been added later on or is caused by bad compression or some sort of post processing..

xath2305

I believe what i see, i see huge dithering in the latest Last Guardian pics, that is all

If developers dont want us to believe that, should release pics wihtout it, that is for sure

Dithering cant be added to a pic in any way, it only appears in render time

Also even with no dithering, the engine looks miles behind Cryengine 3 or Unreal 3 engine anyway


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best laugh is it will be remembered more than most of the games that use those engines, because it has a memorable artstyle no matter how you push polys a good art style can make a game look a 100x better.

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#44 loosingENDS
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best laugh is it will be remembered more than most of the games that use those engines, because it has a memorable artstyle no matter how you push polys a good art style can make a game look a 100x better.

razgriz_101

That is debatable, if you actually like that art the best, yes

I find it very good too, but i will remember Dark Souls, Alan Wake,Rayman Origins, Dust Elysian Tales, Ryse, Witcher 2 and Fable 1-2-3-Journey art a million times better, since i like the art in those a lot more

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#45 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

best laugh is it will be remembered more than most of the games that use those engines, because it has a memorable artstyle no matter how you push polys a good art style can make a game look a 100x better.

loosingENDS

That is debatable, if you actually like that art the best, yes

I find it very good too, but i will remember Dark Souls, Alan Wake,Rayman Origins, Dust Elysian Tales, Ryse, Witcher 2 and Fable 1-2-3-Journey art a million times better, since i like the art in those a lot more

ypu and Rayman is a perfect example of you shooting yourself in the foot by proving what im saying really.

oh wait your a lemming who claims to have a PS3 and thinks Fable the journey will be one of the best things to happen to the 360 and RYSE will suddenly convert all us gamers into thinking Kinect is actuaally worthwile instead of a peripheral thats been found to have better use in other applications yup that sounds bang on correctamundo.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

best laugh is it will be remembered more than most of the games that use those engines, because it has a memorable artstyle no matter how you push polys a good art style can make a game look a 100x better.

razgriz_101

That is debatable, if you actually like that art the best, yes

I find it very good too, but i will remember Dark Souls, Alan Wake,Rayman Origins, Dust Elysian Tales, Ryse, Witcher 2 and Fable 1-2-3-Journey art a million times better, since i like the art in those a lot more

ypu and Rayman is a perfect example of you shooting yourself in the foot by proving what im saying really.

oh wait your a lemming who claims to have a PS3 and thinks Fable the journey will be one of the best things to happen to the 360 and RYSE will suddenly convert all us gamers into thinking Kinect is actuaally worthwile instead of a peripheral thats been found to have better use in other applications yup that sounds bang on correctamundo.

I like Fable Journey, Ryse and Rayman art a lot more than Last Guardian art, for sure

So, i only proved that what you say is just your opinion, Last guardian wont be remembered at all by those that like the art in other games better

stating an opinion as fact, does not make it fact

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gta v and bioshock ifinite
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#48 silversix_
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ARMA 3 for graphics (or Metro LL). Nothing comes even close to the art style Bioshock Infinite has.
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#49 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

That is debatable, if you actually like that art the best, yes

I find it very good too, but i will remember Dark Souls, Alan Wake,Rayman Origins, Dust Elysian Tales, Ryse, Witcher 2 and Fable 1-2-3-Journey art a million times better, since i like the art in those a lot more

loosingENDS

ypu and Rayman is a perfect example of you shooting yourself in the foot by proving what im saying really.

oh wait your a lemming who claims to have a PS3 and thinks Fable the journey will be one of the best things to happen to the 360 and RYSE will suddenly convert all us gamers into thinking Kinect is actuaally worthwile instead of a peripheral thats been found to have better use in other applications yup that sounds bang on correctamundo.

I like Fable Journey, Ryse and Rayman art a lot more than Last Guardian art, for sure

So, i only proved that what you say is just your opinion, Last guardian wont be remembered at all by those that like the art in other games better

stating an opinion as fact, does not make it fact

Ryse looks like the same washed up hag of a fantasy style we've seen whored out this gen.

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Why is Fable Journey even in this poll?