Graphics war OVER!

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

hockeyruler12

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

urdead18

Maybe if there wasn't a thread last week that was exactly the same thing as yours I would be more interestedDiviniuz

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

urdead18

Are you really that naive?

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

urdead18

well not too long now and we'll see if KZ2 is console graphics king. and please change the topic headline, the PC says hi. Games simply look better on the PC. GTAIV looks amazing on the PC in comparrsion to my PS3 copy.crozon

Too bad the port sucks. I'd rather take the 360 version over PC.

urdead18

:o

Stop it, your going to make me waste $399!:?

[QUOTE="crozon"]well not too long now and we'll see if KZ2 is console graphics king. and please change the topic headline, the PC says hi. Games simply look better on the PC. GTAIV looks amazing on the PC in comparrsion to my PS3 copy.Epak_

Too bad the port sucks. I'd rather take the 360 version over PC.

Too bad this thread only concerns graphics and doesn't factor in anything else.

Sounds about right. I would say current PS3 developers have done a better job over all with their hardware than current 360 devs. Games like Uncharted, MGS 4, Killzone 2, etc are pretty much unmatched by most things, with the exception of GeoW 2. Rare games look nice though. Helps there are more of them I guess.

Still, the graphics war ended over a year ago when Crysis was released.

well not too long now and we'll see if KZ2 is console graphics king. and please change the topic headline, the PC says hi. Games simply look better on the PC. GTAIV looks amazing on the PC in comparrsion to my PS3 copy.crozon

Too bad the port sucks. I'd rather take the 360 version over PC.

Too bad this thread only concerns graphics and doesn't factor in anything else.

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

wdave92

[QUOTE="wdave92"][QUOTE="urdead18"] That's funny, I could've sworn Killzone 2 was only on Ps3 and the devs said they couldn't do it on 360...nervmeister

Well it could be a half truth (Edit: Sounded similar.). What they are saying could just mean that it uses the PS3's architecture in a way that the 360 could not manipulate, meaning it would be unportable, similar to how MGS4 can not be easily ported. It's been said mostly for hype purposes. Though if it had been on 360 it would have probably looked inferior with out the support of Sony and the developers superior understanding of the platform.

That's funny, I could've sworn Killzone 2 was only on Ps3 and the devs said they couldn't do it on 360...urdead18

That's funny, I could've sworn Killzone 2 was only on Ps3 and the devs said they couldn't do it on 360...urdead18

Guerilla Games = Sony:lol:

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

urdead18

No way!!!!

PS3 is a super computer and Killzone2 looks far better than crysis :lol:

*looks at the npd charts*

Seems to me the graphics war has been over since 2006.

[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"][QUOTE="Epak_"]

Too bad the port sucks. I'd rather take the 360 version over PC.

dsmccracken

Too bad this thread only concerns graphics and doesn't factor in anything else.

Sure you can crank everything up and the game looks good, but it's unplayable then.

graphics war over, never was a graphics war just fangirls crying

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

urdead18

If that is true, that would reflect badly on their skills as devs.

[QUOTE="urdead18"]CB4McGusto

:o

Stop it, your going to make me waste $399!:?

It looks so nice I can't wait!

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

urdead18

I'm sorry, at what point in the OP was everything else in the universe expressly disallowed?dsmccracken

Could have something to do with the title of the thread being "graphics war over".

Sounds about right. I would say current PS3 developers have done a better job over all with their hardware than current 360 devs. Games like Uncharted, MGS 4, Killzone 2, etc are pretty much unmatched by most things, with the exception of GeoW 2. Rare games look nice though. Helps there are more of them I guess.

Still, the graphics war ended over a year ago when Crysis was released.

WasntAvailable

have you seen this

very very interesting

Crysis wins. Gameplay and story should be the main focus, as well as pyhsics. I think graphics improvement shouldn't go too far over crysis.

[QUOTE="urdead18"]That's funny, I could've sworn Killzone 2 was only on Ps3 and the devs said they couldn't do it on 360...McdonaIdsGuy

There was already a thread earlier this week/last week stating the same thing.Diviniuz

NOW for me the 360 and PS3 are almost identical beasts...BUT I dont stop there..FOR "ME", PC's are not but about 3% better than consoles "graphically" ...This is my opinion. So to me the playing field is equal all the way around. There really isnt anything to argue about here..

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="urdead18"]That's funny, I could've sworn Killzone 2 was only on Ps3 and the devs said they couldn't do it on 360...urdead18

[QUOTE="crozon"]well not too long now and we'll see if KZ2 is console graphics king. and please change the topic headline, the PC says hi. Games simply look better on the PC. GTAIV looks amazing on the PC in comparrsion to my PS3 copy.Epak_

Too bad the port sucks. I'd rather take the 360 version over PC.

hasn't this always been the case? i haven't seen anything on either console that couldn't be done on the other. Gears of War could be done on the ps3 its the unreal engine so of course it could be. Same with Killzone 2 it looks really good but its nothing i don't think the 360 couldn't handle. Its not like last gen, where a game like Splinter Cell: Chaos Theroy on the xbox looked sooooooo much better than anything the ps2 could do. Neither console has pulled away in terms of graphics.Blackfriend8

[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html

But when asked the flame war inducing question,"which console is actually more powerful?"

Shippy tells Gamasutra, "I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends.' Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores… it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

"At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."

urdead18

NO!!!

You mean to tell me a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Computer Entertainment said that the Playstation 3's flagship 2009 exclusive couldn't be done on a competing console? :o

Stop the freaking presses!

urdead18

:o

Stop it, your going to make me waste $399!:?

It looks so nice I can't wait!

[QUOTE="acsguitar"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

:o

Stop it, your going to make me waste $399!:?

GranReyUno

It looks so nice I can't wait!

Say what you will but I am no more impressed with Killzone 2 after seeing that GIF than before I saw it. I just looks average to me in gameplay and nothing special in the visuals either.