GRAW 2>>>>>>Socom Confrontation

I was in the Beta for this Slant Six discrace that has been made that has ruined the Socom name. And it was trash in the beta. So I waited. And downloaded the Socom the other day. Yeah it has been cleaned up a bit. But it is still buggy as all heck and still a bit laggy and still has lockups.

And I say again to myself a game like GRAW 2 that has better graphics more on screen and better everything coop and single player. And Slant Six can not even get a game to run barley decent.

Honeslty STINK 6 should be burned at the stake. They are low rent trailer park in regards to developers. Sony should really be ashamed they let these sorry developers ruin a good Sony franchise like this. Not like Sony can afford to have anymore negitive at this point.

WOW Slant Six you should all just go back to stocking shelfs somewhere your coding and Q&A are PATHETIC.

Nice you judge a full game vs. a beta. Nice.siLVURcross

WTF I said I downloaded the full game also?:?

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Nice you judge a full game vs. a beta. Nice.Pud_Whacker

WTF I said I downloaded the full game also?:?

Nice you judge a full game vs. a beta. Nice.siLVURcross

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Nice you judge a full game vs. a beta. Nice.ahmedkandil

In any case, comparing the two is pretty hard. One game has a single player, the other is simply multiplayer. While I enjoyed GRAW2's multiplayer when I first played it, it didn't stick as well. While now I'm starting to like SOCOM and regardless of it's bugs (which the next patch I believe will fix), and I think it'll be fun and plus, it was only $40, so big whoop.siLVURcross

My point is months after release the game is still a joke with bugs and lag. And it did not even have anything other then multiplayer.

My point is clearly STINK 6 is a low rent developer.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]In any case, comparing the two is pretty hard. One game has a single player, the other is simply multiplayer. While I enjoyed GRAW2's multiplayer when I first played it, it didn't stick as well. While now I'm starting to like SOCOM and regardless of it's bugs (which the next patch I believe will fix), and I think it'll be fun and plus, it was only $40, so big whoop.Pud_Whacker

My point is months after release the game is still a joke with bugs and lag. And it did not even have anything other then multiplayer.

My point is clearly STINK 6 is a low rent developer.

Socom: Confrontation is absolutely great imo.. in terms of a "tactical shooter", you'd be hard pressed to find a game that's more rooted in realism, skill, and tension.. realistic weapon recoil, no-respawn by default, outstanding map design, scaled maps for 8, 16, and 32 players, great game types/modes, detailed clan support, and more.. GRAW 2 is "ok".. Socom: Confrontation is simply better (imo) if you're looking for an intense tactical shooter that's going to continue to receive updates, support, and growth for years to come..

and please, if you're talking about "lags and bugs" then you've lost most of your credibility right there.. the 1.20 patch fixed all of that a long time ago and the 1.30 patch (which should be here next week) is going to make even more additions/improvements.. so yea, you can save that dead argument..

[QUOTE="Pud_Whacker"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]In any case, comparing the two is pretty hard. One game has a single player, the other is simply multiplayer. While I enjoyed GRAW2's multiplayer when I first played it, it didn't stick as well. While now I'm starting to like SOCOM and regardless of it's bugs (which the next patch I believe will fix), and I think it'll be fun and plus, it was only $40, so big whoop.siLVURcross

My point is months after release the game is still a joke with bugs and lag. And it did not even have anything other then multiplayer.

My point is clearly STINK 6 is a low rent developer.

I beleive it has been Zipper that has been involved with Socom until STINK 6 took over for this latest Socom naked gun 4 1/2:lol:

Socom: Confrontation is absolutely great imo.. in terms of a "tactical shooter", you'd be hard pressed to find a game that's more rooted in realism, skill, and tension.. realistic weapon recoil, no-respawn by default, outstanding map design, scaled maps for 8, 16, and 32 players, great game types/modes, detailed clan support, and more.. GRAW 2 is "ok".. Socom: Confrontation is simply better (imo) if you're looking for an intense tactical shooter that's going to continue to receive updates, support, and growth for years to come..

and please, if you're talking about "lags and bugs" then you've lost most of your credibility right there.. the 1.20 patch fixed all of that a long time ago and the 1.30 patch (which should be here next week) is going to make even more additions/improvements.. so yea, you can save that dead argument..

Antwan3K

Socom: Confrontation is absolutely great imo.. in terms of a "tactical shooter", you'd be hard pressed to find a game that's more rooted in realism, skill, and tension.. realistic weapon recoil, no-respawn by default, outstanding map design, scaled maps for 8, 16, and 32 players, great game types/modes, detailed clan support, and more.. GRAW 2 is "ok".. Socom: Confrontation is simply better (imo) if you're looking for an intense tactical shooter that's going to continue to receive updates, support, and growth for years to come..

and please, if you're talking about "lags and bugs" then you've lost most of your credibility right there.. the 1.20 patch fixed all of that a long time ago and the 1.30 patch (which should be here next week) is going to make even more additions/improvements.. so yea, you can save that dead argument..

Antwan3K

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Nice you judge a full game vs. a beta. Nice.Pud_Whacker

WTF I said I downloaded the full game also?:?

Honestly...I have played thousands of betas and demos and 99% of the time they are EXACTLY like the finished product. So almost every time you can judge a game by the beta/demo.

Well Confloptations was a complete rip-off of graw 2 so of course it owns it.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

If it wasn't for SOCOM there wouldn't be a GRAW. SOCOM is the true original 3rd person tactical console shooter. Don't talk of what you dont know.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Well Confloptations was a complete rip-off of graw 2 so of course it owns it.VideoGameRosado

If it wasn't for SOCOM there wouldn't be a GRAW. SOCOM is the true original 3rd person tactical console shooter. Don't talk of what you dont know.

The Ghost Recon franchise started in 2001, long before Socom.

even though socom confrontation isnt a real socom game isnt made by zipper interactive the people who invented the franchise.

it's still better gameplay wise than graw because they follow the core gameplay of zipper's past games.

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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Well Confloptations was a complete rip-off of graw 2 so of course it owns it.BioShockOwnz

If it wasn't for SOCOM there wouldn't be a GRAW. SOCOM is the true original 3rd person tactical console shooter. Don't talk of what you dont know.

The Ghost Recon franchise started in 2001, long before Socom.

yes ghost recon did start before...socom but it was first person...they didnt make third person one untill after socom.

but socom's gameplay is better...socom you can jump...no ghost recon game lets you jump.

socom wins.

[QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Well Confloptations was a complete rip-off of graw 2 so of course it owns it.BioShockOwnz

If it wasn't for SOCOM there wouldn't be a GRAW. SOCOM is the true original 3rd person tactical console shooter. Don't talk of what you dont know.

The Ghost Recon franchise started in 2001, long before Socom.

Socom: Confrontation is absolutely great imo.. in terms of a "tactical shooter", you'd be hard pressed to find a game that's more rooted in realism, skill, and tension.. realistic weapon recoil, no-respawn by default, outstanding map design, scaled maps for 8, 16, and 32 players, great game types/modes, detailed clan support, and more.. GRAW 2 is "ok".. Socom: Confrontation is simply better (imo) if you're looking for an intense tactical shooter that's going to continue to receive updates, support, and growth for years to come..

and please, if you're talking about "lags and bugs" then you've lost most of your credibility right there.. the 1.20 patch fixed all of that a long time ago and the 1.30 patch (which should be here next week) is going to make even more additions/improvements.. so yea, you can save that dead argument..

[QUOTE="Pud_Whacker"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Nice you judge a full game vs. a beta. Nice.FunkyHeadHunter

WTF I said I downloaded the full game also?:?

Honestly...I have played thousands of betas and demos and 99% of the time they are EXACTLY like the finished product. So almost every time you can judge a game by the beta/demo.

SOCOM: Conf. is a great online tactical game that will only get better especially with the new update due next week or the following. Even with many of the features missing like in game quick invite and quick play it overshadows GRAW. I hear lots of complains about the graphics but to me they are just right with realistic lighting that affects the draw distance and angles of where you are looking. The only complain i have is there is no FP mode like previous installments.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

If it wasn't for SOCOM there wouldn't be a GRAW. SOCOM is the true original 3rd person tactical console shooter. Don't talk of what you dont know.

VideoGameRosado

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Well Confloptations was a complete rip-off of graw 2 so of course it owns it.VideoGameRosado

If it wasn't for SOCOM there wouldn't be a GRAW. SOCOM is the true original 3rd person tactical console shooter. Don't talk of what you dont know.

Crashing is hardly a game problem, I've had more then enough Gears of war 2, GRAW 2. Oblivion, LittleBigPlanet crashes to know that its a natural part of a gaming machines lifetime. The PS2 had lockups and crashes, The Xbox 360 has crashes and lockups as well as some other few very big problems and the PS3 has crashes and lockups as well. Oblivion on the PS3 I've had crash quite a few times before. I dont really see a reason to complain when the PC is the home of crashing and locking up while Consoles do well since there technicially uniformed. Now being buggy is something......that Oblivion had a huge issue with, especially the PC version and alot of games have. But I'll admit bugs are much less common on the console games.

Although both games seem very comparable you have to remember GRAW 2 is not aiming for die hard realism. If it was so the enemy AI wouldnt sprint and snipe you, and still hit you. SOCOM is known for realism. They both may have the same setting - Navy seal/marine VS terrorists but there hardly similar besides that. Take the games Project Gotham Racing and Gran Turismo. Both have same setting/backround but both aim for different things, Project Gotham racing is not realism, its plain fun and addictive, Gran Turismo is where realism comes in. A better comparison would probably be The Force Unleashed which is a dissapointment and then Star wars episode three. Both are set in star wars, like both GRAW 2 and SOCOM are set in the military vs terrorists aspect, Episode three and SWTFU you use a lightsaber user but Episode three is much more lightsaber orientated which is why it is better for lightsaber battles. Like both GRAW 2 and SOCOM you usually use a rifle e.g. M16. Comparing them I consider to be more of a battle of personal preferance.

SOCOM 2 and Confrontation are the only ones bothered keeping/owning. Even with the upgrades in Confrontation, I'd still pick GRAW 2 over it.

Online co-op campaign, online co-op elimination mode against bots.... add to that more maps makes GRAW 2 the default winner in my book.

Online co-op campaign, online co-op elimination mode against bots.... add to that more maps makes GRAW 2 the default winner in my book.VoodooHak

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]Online co-op campaign, online co-op elimination mode against bots.... add to that more maps makes GRAW 2 the default winner in my book.GodofBigMacs

Given time, I'm sure SOCOM may offer more maps for download. Both games offer varied settings, well thought-out choke points and variable elevations, some parts symetrical, others organic. "Better", when comparing the maps of these two games, is really sujbective.

For me, it's going to boil down to variety in gameplay, which GRAW his over SOCOM: C.

Well Confloptations was a complete rip-off of graw 2 so of course it owns it.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

[QUOTE="Antwan3K"]

Socom: Confrontation is absolutely great imo.. in terms of a "tactical shooter", you'd be hard pressed to find a game that's more rooted in realism, skill, and tension.. realistic weapon recoil, no-respawn by default, outstanding map design, scaled maps for 8, 16, and 32 players, great game types/modes, detailed clan support, and more.. GRAW 2 is "ok".. Socom: Confrontation is simply better (imo) if you're looking for an intense tactical shooter that's going to continue to receive updates, support, and growth for years to come..

and please, if you're talking about "lags and bugs" then you've lost most of your credibility right there.. the 1.20 patch fixed all of that a long time ago and the 1.30 patch (which should be here next week) is going to make even more additions/improvements.. so yea, you can save that dead argument..

TREAL_Since

I.agree.with.both.of.you...and.why.lems.are.in.this.thread.talking.down.Socom.without.even.playing.the.game.is.not.only.expected.but.pathetic.

I've always preferred Ghost Recon to Socom, haven't played Confrontations though.II-FBIsniper-II

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]I've always preferred Ghost Recon to Socom, haven't played Confrontations though.GodofBigMacs

I.cant.wait....I'll.be.so.happy.if.it.comes.out.the.5th