Great/Meh IGN Editorial about DLC

Found this over at IGN.com, it's a great read, especially if you've been following the System Wars debate about the fairness of DLC and so fourth.

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/961/961670p1.html

Enjoy, also feel free to vote in the poll!

Personally DLC only tempts me if it's something that is worth it like the LBP Metal Gear pack. Something as trivial as different set of clothes or different skins for airplanes is stupid...

It's unfair to gamers to have a pricing structure that makes no sense. It's impossible to know what $5 or $10 or $20 buys you for any given download. It's a blind jump, most of the time. IGN

IGN editorials really annoy. Like they have a clue about anything. DLC is fine because you don't have to buy it if you don't want to. Devs want money, this is a way for them to make money, people pay money for the content. The masses are happy and the only people whining are those on the internet forums who think you are required to buy every piece of DLC and the devs owe you for buying there games. Sheesh, get over it people.

well dlc is a really picky subject for me. I have bought some here and there but i never just blindly buy dlc. I see what it does by means like the internet and see if it is worth it. Most of it is not worth it so i dont buy it. But for some i can attest to the 20$ tag. Like gta4 is worth 20$ IMO because it is about 8-10 hours more playtime which back in the ps2 days some ppl paid 50$ for just that.

Only thing that bothers me is like the RE5 crap with the versus mode being charged for this is just wrong i mean 5$ is not a lot of money but just the principal in charging for it is wrong.

It's unfair to gamers to have a pricing structure that makes no sense. It's impossible to know what $5 or $10 or $20 buys you for any given download. It's a blind jump, most of the time. IGN

DLC has gone too far

everytime they anounce some DLC i think "did they removed it from the origenal disc so they can sell twice ?"

i lost me trust in those developer.

:owhat was so worthy of $160 DLC in Ace Combat 6?tOtalPWNaAe

IGN editorials really annoy. Like they have a clue about anything. DLC is fine because you don't have to buy it if you don't want to. Devs want money, this is a way for them to make money, people pay money for the content. The masses are happy and the only people whining are those on the internet forums who think you are required to buy every piece of DLC and the devs owe you for buying there games. Sheesh, get over it people.

ActicEdge

:owhat was so worthy of $160 DLC in Ace Combat 6?tOtalPWNaAe

well dlc is a really picky subject for me. I have bought some here and there but i never just blindly buy dlc. I see what it does by means like the internet and see if it is worth it. Most of it is not worth it so i dont buy it. But for some i can attest to the 20$ tag. Like gta4 is worth 20$ IMO because it is about 8-10 hours more playtime which back in the ps2 days some ppl paid 50$ for just that.

Only thing that bothers me is like the RE5 crap with the versus mode being charged for this is just wrong i mean 5$ is not a lot of money but just the principal in charging for it is wrong.

njean777

Uh, why is that. Has there ever been a verus mode in a main series resident evil before?

[QUOTE="njean777"]

well dlc is a really picky subject for me. I have bought some here and there but i never just blindly buy dlc. I see what it does by means like the internet and see if it is worth it. Most of it is not worth it so i dont buy it. But for some i can attest to the 20$ tag. Like gta4 is worth 20$ IMO because it is about 8-10 hours more playtime which back in the ps2 days some ppl paid 50$ for just that.

Only thing that bothers me is like the RE5 crap with the versus mode being charged for this is just wrong i mean 5$ is not a lot of money but just the principal in charging for it is wrong.

Uh, why is that. Has there ever been a verus mode in a main series resident evil before?

[QUOTE="njean777"]

well dlc is a really picky subject for me. I have bought some here and there but i never just blindly buy dlc. I see what it does by means like the internet and see if it is worth it. Most of it is not worth it so i dont buy it. But for some i can attest to the 20$ tag. Like gta4 is worth 20$ IMO because it is about 8-10 hours more playtime which back in the ps2 days some ppl paid 50$ for just that.

Only thing that bothers me is like the RE5 crap with the versus mode being charged for this is just wrong i mean 5$ is not a lot of money but just the principal in charging for it is wrong.

Uh, why is that. Has there ever been a verus mode in a main series resident evil before?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

IGN editorials really annoy. Like they have a clue about anything. DLC is fine because you don't have to buy it if you don't want to. Devs want money, this is a way for them to make money, people pay money for the content. The masses are happy and the only people whining are those on the internet forums who think you are required to buy every piece of DLC and the devs owe you for buying there games. Sheesh, get over it people.

CTUDude

:owhat was so worthy of $160 DLC in Ace Combat 6?tOtalPWNaAe

Uh, if I want it that badly I'll pay for it. DLCs point is to entice me to spend money afterall. I'm not gonna drop 20 on DLC unless I feel its worth it to me. The key words here is, "If I feel its worth it". I may want it but I don't have to buy it so there isn't a problem.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="njean777"]

well dlc is a really picky subject for me. I have bought some here and there but i never just blindly buy dlc. I see what it does by means like the internet and see if it is worth it. Most of it is not worth it so i dont buy it. But for some i can attest to the 20$ tag. Like gta4 is worth 20$ IMO because it is about 8-10 hours more playtime which back in the ps2 days some ppl paid 50$ for just that.

Only thing that bothers me is like the RE5 crap with the versus mode being charged for this is just wrong i mean 5$ is not a lot of money but just the principal in charging for it is wrong.

IronBass

Uh, why is that. Has there ever been a verus mode in a main series resident evil before?

Can you restate that. I'm not really sure what you mean.

[QUOTE="njean777"]

well dlc is a really picky subject for me. I have bought some here and there but i never just blindly buy dlc. I see what it does by means like the internet and see if it is worth it. Most of it is not worth it so i dont buy it. But for some i can attest to the 20$ tag. Like gta4 is worth 20$ IMO because it is about 8-10 hours more playtime which back in the ps2 days some ppl paid 50$ for just that.

Only thing that bothers me is like the RE5 crap with the versus mode being charged for this is just wrong i mean 5$ is not a lot of money but just the principal in charging for it is wrong.

ActicEdge

Uh, why is that. Has there ever been a verus mode in a main series resident evil before?

because when the Strategy guide has it in the book then why is it not on the game? I hate paying for stuff that is already on the game obviously it was on the game if the strategy guide has it in the book. Just wrong IMO to pay for something that should be on the disc.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="njean777"]

well dlc is a really picky subject for me. I have bought some here and there but i never just blindly buy dlc. I see what it does by means like the internet and see if it is worth it. Most of it is not worth it so i dont buy it. But for some i can attest to the 20$ tag. Like gta4 is worth 20$ IMO because it is about 8-10 hours more playtime which back in the ps2 days some ppl paid 50$ for just that.

Only thing that bothers me is like the RE5 crap with the versus mode being charged for this is just wrong i mean 5$ is not a lot of money but just the principal in charging for it is wrong.

CTUDude

Uh, why is that. Has there ever been a verus mode in a main series resident evil before?

Industry standard? Not in RE. Fact is, people will pay the iniation fee to play the core Biohazard game which has lots of features and etc. Who would pay money to play games like COD and Halo with no multiplayer? There is nothing there without the MP. You want to know why Capcom problably did this (besides being normal rip off capcom)? How many people would use this feature if it was in the main game is unknown, if it isn't used enough, it was a waste of time. If they charge you for it, they will see who is willing to play it and exactly how much interest is in this kind of MP for a RE game. It gets them extra money and data for there next title, it may seem greedy but why give it away for free?

Imagine if you had to pay to unlock Multiplayer for Halo 3, Resistance 2, or Call of Duty...CTUDude

Depends on the DLC for me. I don't mind map packs or other things that prolong the life of a game, as long as they are released a decent amount of time after the game releases. On the other hand, you've got companies like EA who will charge for anything and everything. The Filmer Pack for Skate 2 is the latest one I can think of, there's no way that shouldn't have been in the game already. Then there's the glorified cheat codes they put up for sale. It's absolutely disgusting.

I love when people want to pay for MP mode on RE5 why are people so.... you know im not gonna finish that statement.

Its the principal ppl! when the VS mode is in the strategy guide WHY IS IT NOT IN THE GAME?

[QUOTE="CTUDude"] Imagine if you had to pay to unlock Multiplayer for Halo 3, Resistance 2, or Call of Duty...IronBass

Can you restate that. I'm not really sure what you meanActicEdge

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="njean777"]

well dlc is a really picky subject for me. I have bought some here and there but i never just blindly buy dlc. I see what it does by means like the internet and see if it is worth it. Most of it is not worth it so i dont buy it. But for some i can attest to the 20$ tag. Like gta4 is worth 20$ IMO because it is about 8-10 hours more playtime which back in the ps2 days some ppl paid 50$ for just that.

Only thing that bothers me is like the RE5 crap with the versus mode being charged for this is just wrong i mean 5$ is not a lot of money but just the principal in charging for it is wrong.

njean777

Uh, why is that. Has there ever been a verus mode in a main series resident evil before?

because when the Strategy guide has it in the book then why is it not on the game? I hate paying for stuff that is already on the game obviously it was on the game if the strategy guide has it in the book. Just wrong IMO to pay for something that should be on the disc.

The fact that you feel its just wrong doesn't change a thing. The strategy guide having it again doesn't mean anything, so what if it was already in the game and you have to pay for it, what justifies that it should be free? There is no difference between whether its in the game or they make you download a stupid 500 mb file, you still have to pay.

On another note, why does it sound like gamers feel that companies owe them anything? They are not your friends, they want your money, that is it.

Same could be said about MGO (albeit it's pretty horrible). MGS has been a SP franchise (ignoring the handhelds) and all of a sudden it came packed with Multiplayer, much like RE5, but unlike RE5, it came free. MGS4's biggest selling point too was SP, same with RE5. Unlike RE5 though, Multiplayer came free.CTUDude

And? Just because Konami didn't charge it doesn't mean that no one is allowed to charge.

[QUOTE="CTUDude"]Same could be said about MGO (albeit it's pretty horrible). MGS has been a SP franchise (ignoring the handhelds) and all of a sudden it came packed with Multiplayer, much like RE5, but unlike RE5, it came free. MGS4's biggest selling point too was SP, same with RE5. Unlike RE5 though, Multiplayer came free.IronBass

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh, why is that. Has there ever been a verus mode in a main series resident evil before?

because when the Strategy guide has it in the book then why is it not on the game? I hate paying for stuff that is already on the game obviously it was on the game if the strategy guide has it in the book. Just wrong IMO to pay for something that should be on the disc.

The fact that you feel its just wrong doesn't change a thing. The strategy guide having it again doesn't mean anything, so what if it was already in the game and you have to pay for it, what justifies that it should be free? There is no difference between whether its in the game or they make you download a stupid 500 mb file, you still have to pay.

On another note, why does it sound like gamers feel that companies owe them anything? They are not your friends, they want your money, that is it.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]Can you restate that. I'm not really sure what you meanIronBass

Okay got it. This is what I don't get, these companies owe us nothing, they try to sell us the game and we bite if we feel its worth the investment. They aren't selling RE5 as a MP game so why should it be free if Capcom doesn't want it to be? We've known from the start what it was, the extra mode is there for those who want it, not as the selling point, they aren't obligated to give us anything.

What are we paying SIXTY DOLLARS for anyway? Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="CTUDude"]Same could be said about MGO (albeit it's pretty horrible). MGS has been a SP franchise (ignoring the handhelds) and all of a sudden it came packed with Multiplayer, much like RE5, but unlike RE5, it came free. MGS4's biggest selling point too was SP, same with RE5. Unlike RE5 though, Multiplayer came free.CTUDude

WOW are you guys actually defending capcom on this?

Well glad to see some ppl like to get ripped off.

This is what is wrong with the industry people think the companies have a choice to charge for this crap. Do they why yes they do but is it still wrong? Hell Yes it is wrong.

When i buy a game i want everything it is suppose to come with. simple as that when you buy VS mode and it say 100kb not 500mb like someone said that means it is on the disk already just sitting there. But to access it you payed for it. already paying 65 dollars for the game now you payed 70 dollars for the game to have the complete package. That is crap if you dont think that is crap then well there is no helping you.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] What are we paying SIXTY DOLLARS for anyway? IronBass

It's just the basic principal of charging for something that clearly should have been part of the game since launch.CTUDude

WOW are you guys actually defending capcom on this?

Well glad to see some ppl like to get ripped off.

This is what is wrong with the industry people think the companies have a choice to charge for this crap. Do they why yes they do but is it still wrong? Hell Yes it is wrong.

When i buy a game i want everything it is suppose to come with. simple as that when you buy VS mode and it say 100kb not 500mb like someone said that means it is on the disk already just sitting there. But to access it you payed for it. already paying 65 dollars for the game now you payed 70 dollars for the game to have the complete package. That is crap if you dont think that is crap then well there is no helping you.

njean777

I agree with you. It's like buying a movie but then finding out you have to pay to watch the extras.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] What are we paying SIXTY DOLLARS for anyway? Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]Can you restate that. I'm not really sure what you meanActicEdge

Okay got it. This is what I don't get, these companies owe us nothing, they try to sell us the game and we bite if we feel its worth the investment. They aren't selling RE5 as a MP game so why should it be free if Capcom doesn't want it to be? We've known from the start what it was, the extra mode is there for those who want it, not as the selling point, they aren't obligated to give us anything.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="IronBass"] For a SP campaign, which can also be played coop online/offline. That's what Capcom offered, that's what we pay for, and -funny enough- that's what we get. IronBass

[QUOTE="CTUDude"] It's just the basic principal of charging for something that clearly should have been part of the game since launch.IronBass

[QUOTE="CTUDude"] It's just the basic principal of charging for something that clearly should have been part of the game since launch.IronBass

it ok to believe in economics but to believe in charging for something that is already there is just wrong. Plain and simple charging more for what is already there is wrong there is no way to spin it for the company.

The very existence of Consumer Reports proves you wrong. Companies have no right to abuse their customers like this. You can''t sell me the Bigmac and leave out the buns and than charge me an extra dollar for the buns. Come on man.Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]The very existence of Consumer Reports proves you wrong. Companies have no right to abuse their customers like this. You can''t sell me the Bigmac and leave out the buns and than charge me an extra dollar for the buns. Come on man.IronBass

Great now explain to me why VS mode is in the manual and not on the game.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="CTUDude"] It's just the basic principal of charging for something that clearly should have been part of the game since launch.njean777

it ok to believe in economics but to believe in charging for something that is already there is just wrong. Plain and simple charging more for what is already there is wrong there is no way to spin it for the company.

Its exactly the same principle as XBL. You want it, you pay for it.
Not that I agree with it.

EDIT: Theres no going back with XBL now but I think gamers can still get the message through to developers about DLC.

Sorry if I believe in an even more basic principle: basic economics. Companies have the right to charge for what they want, just as I have the righ to pay (or not pay) for what I want.IronBass

it ok to believe in economics but to believe in charging for something that is already there is just wrong. Plain and simple charging more for what is already there is wrong there is no way to spin it for the company.

Great now explain to me why VS mode is in the manual and not on the game. njean777

[QUOTE="njean777"]Great now explain to me why VS mode is in the manual and not on the game. IronBass

Mmm I forgot, in 'The Corporation' these companies have no souls what so ever, they're purpose is to generate a profit completely disregarding any morals or problems that are along the way. Epic, isn' it?CTUDude

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[QUOTE="njean777"]

because when the Strategy guide has it in the book then why is it not on the game? I hate paying for stuff that is already on the game obviously it was on the game if the strategy guide has it in the book. Just wrong IMO to pay for something that should be on the disc.

Bread_or_Decide

The fact that you feel its just wrong doesn't change a thing. The strategy guide having it again doesn't mean anything, so what if it was already in the game and you have to pay for it, what justifies that it should be free? There is no difference between whether its in the game or they make you download a stupid 500 mb file, you still have to pay.

On another note, why does it sound like gamers feel that companies owe them anything? They are not your friends, they want your money, that is it.

If that content was already deemed to be seperate from the main package, there is no difference in how they get it to you. If you want to use the whole "technically payed for" argument then all you did was technically pay for an unoperational part of the game and the fee is to get that unoperable piece of the game working. Its not a scam, its gamers crying because they feel like companies need to justify themselves to them and owe them something. Don't like it, don't buy it, YOU HAVE a choice. You don't want to accept the companies actions, listen to what I said at the beginning of the thread and DO NOT BUY IT. Abusing the customer, get serious, you let yourself get abused when you buy there crap and then complain. What are you paying $60 for? Oh man SW makes me laugh.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="njean777"]Great now explain to me why VS mode is in the manual and not on the game. CTUDude