GT will no longer be considered a top racing game.

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#1 MortgageMan007
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GT after GT5 has not gained an AAA ave for a franchise. It is an ave AA franchise and in most views a small level of a flop with GT5. GT is suffering the same fate as other Japanese developers are having in regards to jRPG's.

I would not be surprised if Sony looks to hit the reset button and find a new developer to start a brand new racing franchise to compete with Forza:? I think Sony knows now they need much faster development times and a more polished and better racing game then what they are getting from PD these days:roll:

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#2 Harisemo
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actually its been a few years since GT stopped being a top racer

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#3 MFDOOM1983
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small level of a flop? It's flop of the gen along with zelda tp.
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#4 Riverwolf007
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no such luck, it will sell a ton of copies and be rewarded for putting the brakes on what it means to be a modern race game and the next one will come out and maybe be improved by 10% or so.

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#5 foxhound_fox
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actually its been a few years since GT stopped being a top racer

Harisemo


About 5 to be more precise.

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#6 heretrix
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GT will always be considered a top tier racing game.

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#7 FIipMode
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Of course it will, it's considered by critics & millions to be one of the top quality racing games/sims.
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#8 15strong
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Yes it will. It gives you more cars and more features than any other racing game on the planet.

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#9 Richymisiak
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despite the disappoinment of GT5 I'd still say the GT series is still a 'top' racing series
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GT after GT5 has not gained an AAA ave for a franchise. It is an ave AA franchise and in most views a small level of a flop with GT5. GT is suffering the same fate as other Japanese developers are having in regards to jRPG's.

I would not be surprised if Sony looks to hit the reset button and find a new developer to start a brand new racing franchise to compete with Forza:? I think Sony knows now they need much faster development times and a more polished and better racing game then what they are getting from PD these days:roll:

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I highly doubt Sony will replace the team on one of the biggest video game franchises, it may not had a huge success in terms of scores but its still an AA game and it is still a commercial blockbluster. That being said, it depresses me, I haven't tried the game and I have no intentions too. It may be a top-tier simulator which may appeal to a lot of people, but that typically isn't the reason I play games.
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#11 resevl4rlz
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why is this still opened

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#12 Infinite_Access
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It'll will still be a top contender.. you have to remember that not all gamers check scores and crap on video game sites. Some people just love simulators and when they hear "New Gran Turismo" they will go buy it.

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#13 iMojo786_PSN
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GT will always be a top tier racing game wether you like it or not

it has more content and quality then any other game on the market :)

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#14 razgriz_101
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Sales wise it achieved

And apart from Cows hyping it to hell and back it stayed within the score range of most of its franchise entries :o

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#15 iMojo786_PSN
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why is this still opened

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your sig is......not nice...sorry :? dont know why your showing it.

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#16 chase_arizona
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GT stopped being a top racing game 5 years ago. Everybody knows that Forza is better.

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#17 Chubith
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So more ps3 doom and gloom from you? Shocking!

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#18 ermacness
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GT stopped being a top racing game 5 years ago. Everybody knows that Forza is better.

chase_arizona

Not everyone.

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#19 UCF_Knight
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GT will always be considered a top tier racing game.

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This. It's never scored AAA on this site, its score is right in line with the rest of the series. And it may have been disappointing given the expectations, but it's still widely respected around the world.
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#20 Wii4Fun
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Why? Because SWs has this stupid 'hype and flop' culture?

It's not like people who buy the game judge it by SWs' standards. (A sucky standard IMO).

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#21 resevl4rlz
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[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

why is this still opened

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your sig is......not nice...sorry :? dont know why your showing it.

then dont read it then

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#22 mD-
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Why? Because SWs has this stupid 'hype and flop' culture?

It's not like people who buy the game judge it by SWs' standards. (A sucky standard IMO).

Wii4Fun
Agreeeeeeeeeeeddddd
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#23 WildDangles92
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And your threads will no longer be taken seriously...actually they never have been

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#24 chase_arizona
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GT stopped being a top racing game 5 years ago. Everybody knows that Forza is better.

ermacness

Not everyone.

I know fanboys like you will say they like GT better when they don't even play racing games and they never even played Forza.

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#25 iMojo786_PSN
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[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

[QUOTE="resevl4rlz"]

why is this still opened

resevl4rlz

your sig is......not nice...sorry :? dont know why your showing it.

then dont read it then

your right, i guess its something you like, i wont disturb you about it anymore sorry.

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#26 mD-
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

GT stopped being a top racing game 5 years ago. Everybody knows that Forza is better.

chase_arizona

Not everyone.

I know fanboys like you will say they like GT better when they don't even play racing games and they never even played Forza.

And I'm willing to bet that you don't own GT5 and are making all your comments based off reviews and impressions, lol.
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#27 chase_arizona
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[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]Not everyone.

mD-

I know fanboys like you will say they like GT better when they don't even play racing games and they never even played Forza.

And I'm willing to bet that you don't own GT5 and are making all your comments based off reviews and impressions, lol.

Forza is better but you can stay in denial. I could care less.

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#28 DJ_Lae
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It'll still be considered a top racing game because there's nothing else on the PS3 that competes with it.
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#29 Star67
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I love it when people ask if GT can compete with Forza. When really its if Forza can compete with GT. I mean GT just has a massive fan base where forza doesnt. People need to realize that Forza isnt an xbox killer app. It doesnt have the sales or thefanbase. Im surprised MS hasnt canned it! I think they keep it alive just to say they have something comparable to GT.

Personally I feel Forza just shallow and dull, and GT classy.

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#30 deactivated-598fc45371265
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What would you consider to be a top racing game then?

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#31 Antantics
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Wonder if the TC will ever get bored of ps3 bashing.

And will people ever get it in thier heads both are quality games?

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[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

GT stopped being a top racing game 5 years ago. Everybody knows that Forza is better.

Not everyone.

I know fanboys like you will say they like GT better when they don't even play racing games and they never even played Forza.

Well the sales prove not everyone knows Forza is as you put it better then GT that much is clear and has nothing to do with being a fanboy.
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#33 mD-
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[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

I know fanboys like you will say they like GT better when they don't even play racing games and they never even played Forza.

chase_arizona

And I'm willing to bet that you don't own GT5 and are making all your comments based off reviews and impressions, lol.

Forza is better but you can stay in denial. I could care less.

I didn't even say one game is better than the other. What's your problem, lol?

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#34 chase_arizona
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I love it when people ask if GT can compete with Forza. When really its if Forza can compete with GT. I mean GT just has a massive fan base where forza doesnt. People need to realize that Forza isnt an xbox killer app. It doesnt have the sales or thefanbase. Im surprised MS hasnt canned it! I think they keep it alive just to say they have something comparable to GT.

Personally I feel Forza just shallow and dull, and GT classy.

Star67

GT could sell 30 million but Forza is still the better franchise. You can talk about sales all you want.

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#35 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

GT stopped being a top racing game 5 years ago. Everybody knows that Forza is better.

chase_arizona

Not everyone.

I know fanboys like you will say they like GT better when they don't even play racing games and they never even played Forza.

If EVERYONE thought that Forza was a better game, wouldn't EVERYONE buy it, and not GT5?:| Most reviewers and gamers agree with you, but to say "EVERYONE" is a mighty bold statement.

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#36 TintedEyes
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I dont know why 360 fans are so annoyed that gt is a great scoring and superp selling series, it must really get to some people
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#37 Star67
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[QUOTE="Star67"]

I love it when people ask if GT can compete with Forza. When really its if Forza can compete with GT. I mean GT just has a massive fan base where forza doesnt. People need to realize that Forza isnt an xbox killer app. It doesnt have the sales or thefanbase. Im surprised MS hasnt canned it! I think they keep it alive just to say they have something comparable to GT.

Personally I feel Forza just shallow and dull, and GT classy.

chase_arizona

GT could sell 30 million but Forza is still the better franchise. You can talk about sales all you want.

If the series as a whole is better then why doesnt it sell better? I think the xbox fan base just doesnt want Sim Racers, which is sad because forza does deserve to be played.

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I dont know why 360 fans are so annoyed that gt is a great scoring and superp selling series, it must really get to some peopleTintedEyes

GT5 flopped horribly so I wouldn't try to brag about it being a high scoring game. I'll admit it sells well though.

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#39 Antantics
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[QUOTE="Star67"]

I love it when people ask if GT can compete with Forza. When really its if Forza can compete with GT. I mean GT just has a massive fan base where forza doesnt. People need to realize that Forza isnt an xbox killer app. It doesnt have the sales or thefanbase. Im surprised MS hasnt canned it! I think they keep it alive just to say they have something comparable to GT.

Personally I feel Forza just shallow and dull, and GT classy.

chase_arizona

GT could sell 30 million but Forza is still the better franchise. You can talk about sales all you want.

Xbox could sell 200million but PS3 is still the better console. You can talk about sales all you want.

See what I did there.

He even said PERSONALLY he feels Forza was shallow and dull and GT classy. Thats his opinion it doesnt make him wrong or you right does it?

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#40 UCF_Knight
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I don't think people different understand the difference between "a top racing game" and being "the best racing game." Forza is a better game. GT is still a "top racing game." No reason to make this another Forza vs. GT thread.
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#41 ermacness
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[QUOTE="Star67"]

I love it when people ask if GT can compete with Forza. When really its if Forza can compete with GT. I mean GT just has a massive fan base where forza doesnt. People need to realize that Forza isnt an xbox killer app. It doesnt have the sales or thefanbase. Im surprised MS hasnt canned it! I think they keep it alive just to say they have something comparable to GT.

Personally I feel Forza just shallow and dull, and GT classy.

chase_arizona

GT could sell 30 million but Forza is still the better franchise. You can talk about sales all you want.

In your opinion. Stop trying to pass off your opinion as fact.

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#42 chase_arizona
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[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="Star67"]

I love it when people ask if GT can compete with Forza. When really its if Forza can compete with GT. I mean GT just has a massive fan base where forza doesnt. People need to realize that Forza isnt an xbox killer app. It doesnt have the sales or thefanbase. Im surprised MS hasnt canned it! I think they keep it alive just to say they have something comparable to GT.

Personally I feel Forza just shallow and dull, and GT classy.

Star67

GT could sell 30 million but Forza is still the better franchise. You can talk about sales all you want.

If the series as a whole is better then why doesnt it sell better? I think the xbox fan base just doesnt want Sim Racers, which is sad because forza does deserves to beplayed.

Gears of War sells more than UC2 so it's better right

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]I dont know why 360 fans are so annoyed that gt is a great scoring and superp selling series, it must really get to some peoplechase_arizona

GT5 flopped horribly so I wouldn't try to brag about it being a high scoring game. I'll admit it sells well though.

its still high scoring and and extremely high seller, i dont know why that angers you so much
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#44 Star67
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[QUOTE="Star67"]

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

GT could sell 30 million but Forza is still the better franchise. You can talk about sales all you want.

chase_arizona

If the series as a whole is better then why doesnt it sell better? I think the xbox fan base just doesnt want Sim Racers, which is sad because forza does deserves to beplayed.

Gears of War sells more than UC2 so it's better right

to me yes. (Gears is my favorite game on xbox)

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#45 ermacness
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]I dont know why 360 fans are so annoyed that gt is a great scoring and superp selling series, it must really get to some peoplechase_arizona

GT5 flopped horribly so I wouldn't try to brag about it being a high scoring game. I'll admit it sells well though.

Last time i checked, an 8.0 is considered "Great" by GS review scale. Did it flop? Yeah it fif, but just because a game lops doesn't mean that it automatically sucks.

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[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]I dont know why 360 fans are so annoyed that gt is a great scoring and superp selling series, it must really get to some peopleermacness

GT5 flopped horribly so I wouldn't try to brag about it being a high scoring game. I'll admit it sells well though.

Last time i checked, an 8.0 is considered "Great" by GS review scale. Did it flop? Yeah it fif, but just because a game lops doesn't mean that it automatically sucks.

I know. GT5 is a great racing game.

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#47 ermacness
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[QUOTE="Star67"]

[QUOTE="chase_arizona"]

GT could sell 30 million but Forza is still the better franchise. You can talk about sales all you want.

chase_arizona

If the series as a whole is better then why doesnt it sell better? I think the xbox fan base just doesnt want Sim Racers, which is sad because forza does deserves to beplayed.

Gears of War sells more than UC2 so it's better right

Did you, or did you not say that" EVERYONE knows that Forza is better?" A game being better is all up to the consumer. What you can say is that more people thought that Gears 2 is a better game, but it's all up to the consumer. You can't say that EVERYONE knows that Forza is better than GT5, because if that was the case, Forza 3 would've sold more.

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#48 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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You can't take away the success it has built up because of this recent flop. It's still a top racing and gaming franchise.
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Its still a great game that is considered one of the best out there.

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#50 MFDOOM1983
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You can't take away the success it has built up because of this recent flop. It's still a top racing and gaming franchise. bez2083
And by recent flop you mean every gt game released after gt3?