GT will outsell failureza

:lol::lol:

bu bu but the real drivivg slim'

the GT5 cars look better than forza's car

GT will outsell more than FORZA

even GT5p look than forza

Forza didn't flop, therefore the name "flopza" doesn't apply.aliasfreak

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

lol flopza.. yep

GT5 owns it.

more cars

better graphics

better simulator..

if only lemmings could play they would realize

1.how bout' we come to an agreement that both have a ups and downs and give totally different feels

2. would all this hating be going on if both were multiplat?

3. please stop owning forza with a game tha hasn't come out, I agree that GT is equal or better than forza, but threads like these dont sell your arguement well.

[QUOTE="aliasfreak"]Forza didn't flop, therefore the name "flopza" doesn't apply.gundamdragonque

50 cent bulletproof sold more copies than any game on the PS3. Therefore, by your beautiful logic, every game on the Playstation 3 so far is a flop compared to the godly 50 cent video game.

:roll:

1.how bout' we come to an agreement that both have a ups and downs and give totally different feels

2. would all this hating be going on if both were multiplat?

3. please stop owning forza with a game tha hasn't come out, I agree that GT is equal or better than forza, but threads like these dont sell your arguement well.

penguino726

Would we not kinda expect it to be better, seeing as it's been in development around twice the length of time Forza has anyway? :?

better simulator..

Arsenal325

[QUOTE="aliasfreak"]Forza didn't flop, therefore the name "flopza" doesn't apply.gundamdragonque

Does that mean anything at all?

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

Eltroz

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

gundamdragonque

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

[QUOTE="aliasfreak"]Forza didn't flop, therefore the name "flopza" doesn't apply.gundamdragonque

On this forum, flop requires hype. Show me where Forza was hyped as selling more than GT5 and then show me your crystal ball that reveals that GT5 does sell more, then you will have something.

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

better simulator..

Eltroz

:lol::lol:

bu bu but the real drivivg slim'

the GT5 cars look better than forza's car

GT will outsell more than FORZA

even GT5p look than forza

gundamdragonque

Just because a games sells does not make it great take 50cent bullet proof for example.

Forza>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GT

[QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

Eltroz

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

GT5P will be a game that have long legs in sales

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

better simulator..

penguino726

GT5P will be a game that have long legs in sales

gundamdragonque

Thanks captain obvious. :roll:

Could you not have simply said that, though? Make a rational comment? Why the childish thread on "flopza" and pointless bashing of a AAA racing series?

It just makes people either ignore what you have to say or attack you for making such comments.

[QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

Eltroz

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

You forgot a very important factor, the fact that the game can be downloaded off PSN. Those sales are not able to be tracked so your whole rant about GT:P being a sales flop is just fanboy nonesense. None of us actually know how much GTP has sold until Sony decides to inform us about how many times its been bought off of PSN. Selling 125K HARD COPIES is great for any game but its even better knowing that there are even more sales on PSN that have yet to be tallied.

:lol::lol:

bu bu but the real drivivg slim'

the GT5 cars look better than forza's car

GT will outsell more than FORZA

even GT5p look than forza

gundamdragonque

Forza is almost up to 2 million sold. You think that's a FLOP. :lol:

GT5 won't play better then Forza 2. Graphics aren't everything. I don't expect GT 5's online to be anything great either. Some cars will have damage, some won't. How dumb is that? That's not realistic. That's a poor sim if you ask me.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

gundamdragonque

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

GT5P will be a game that have long legs in sales

[QUOTE="penguino726"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

better simulator..

Eltroz

[QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

Eltroz

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

GT5P will be a game that have long legs in sales

GT4p Total sales

Gran Turismo 4 Prologue

• 790,000 Japan (2003/12/04 ~ 2006/12)
• 410,000 Europe (2004/05/26 ~ 2006/12)
• 110,000 South East Asia (2003/12/04 ~ 2006/12)
• 50,000 South Korea (2004/01/15 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,360,000 total sales (2003/12 ~ 2006/12

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

gundamdragonque

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

There were 120 million PS2 sold when GT4 was released. How many PS3's are in gamers homes right now? Just over 7 million. How many of these 7 million people do you think will buy GT5? Maybe 1.5 - 2 million at the most.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

better simulator..

penguino726

Play the games or read any review and you will see that your comments are pretty much the opposite of reality. It is GT which is a fun game, but Forza which is the more realistic. GT has been criticised more lately for being too arcadey, whereas Forza is absolutely brutal.

I highly doubt you've even played Forza because that post was just flat-out wrong.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="penguino726"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

better simulator..

penguino726

:lol:

You have just announced to the world that you have never played Forza.

:lol:

[QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

XanderZane

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

There were 120 million PS2 sold when GT4 was released. How many PS3's are in gamers homes right now? Just over 7 million. How many of these 7 million people do you think will buy GT5? Maybe 1.5 - 2 million at the most.

we don't even know how much PS3 will besold WW then GT5 come out

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="penguino726"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

better simulator..

penguino726

OMG no really I am not kidding here OMG OMG Better physics even though they do not damage,better graphics as long as you only look at the cars and not the enviroment, tons of cars?? making the same car with a slight difference to pad the numbers does not make it more just makes it a way to lie to you cows. Just look at Forza 2 cars. You take one car and you can get thousands of different versions from that one car but GT needs to pad their numbers by having 35 of the same car, yes AI does not ever get outweighed stop being a person swollowing Sony Cool Aid so much. It is A SIMulation RACER so yes AI is a major factor in trying to SIMulate real life.Eltroz

I know right? :lol:

"better physics" - it doesn't have any physics! :lol:

[QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

GT: P sold what a whole 125k in Japan and we all know launch weeks are when most sales come? Meanwhile GT: P4 sold 800k total. It seems sales are trailling off some. I thought when GT: P game out it was supposed to sell a ton of systems but that did not seem to happen.

Also do not give me it is a demo because then PS3 fans get ripped off paying $40 for a demo or if it is a full game then it is flopping in sales from what GT was supposed to do.

Just face it. PS3 needs 120 million consoles sold like the PS2 to sell like that and it is not going to happen.

XanderZane

• 4,870,000 Europe (2005/03/09 ~ 2006/12)
• 2,630,000 North America (2005/02/22 ~ 2006/12)
• 1,160,000 Japan (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 70,000 South East Asia (2004/12/28 ~ 2006/12)
• 60,000 South Korea (2005/03/10 ~ 2006/12)
• 8,790,000 total sales (2004/12 ~ 2006/12)

There were 120 million PS2 sold when GT4 was released. How many PS3's are in gamers homes right now? Just over 7 million. How many of these 7 million people do you think will buy GT5? Maybe 1.5 - 2 million at the most.

GT3 sold even better then 4 if I recall and there were alot fewer PS2s around.

[QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="aliasfreak"]Forza didn't flop, therefore the name "flopza" doesn't apply.Ninja-Vox

50 cent bulletproof sold more copies than any game on the PS3. Therefore, by your beautiful logic, every game on the Playstation 3 so far is a flop compared to the godly 50 cent video game.

:roll:

in SW, flop is considered hyped below a certain score. Forza was a AAA title. flopza is not a valid name.

OMG no really I am not kidding here OMG OMG Better physics even though they do not damage,better graphics as long as you only look at the cars and not the enviroment, tons of cars?? making the same car with a slight difference to pad the numbers does not make it more just makes it a way to lie to you cows. Just look at Forza 2 cars. You take one car and you can get thousands of different versions from that one car but GT needs to pad their numbers by having 35 of the same car, yes AI does not ever get outweighed stop being a person swollowing Sony Cool Aid so much. It is A SIMulation RACER so yes AI is a major factor in trying to SIMulate real life.

i heard GT5 does have damage modeling this time around. could be wrong.

GT5 is a huge title for the PS3 and I fully expect it to sell just as well as the rest of the PS3 lineup.

lol flopza.. yep

GT5 owns it.

more cars

better graphics

better simulator..

if only lemmings could play they would realize

Arsenal325

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

[QUOTE="gundamdragonque"][QUOTE="aliasfreak"]Forza didn't flop, therefore the name "flopza" doesn't apply.clone01

50 cent bulletproof sold more copies than any game on the PS3. Therefore, by your beautiful logic, every game on the Playstation 3 so far is a flop compared to the godly 50 cent video game.

:roll:

in SW, flop is considered hyped below a certain score. Forza was a AAA title. flopza is not a valid name.

I'm well aware of that. :| I'm pointing out how flawed his logic is.

50 cent bulletproof sold more copies than any game on the PS3. Therefore, by your beautiful logic, every game on the Playstation 3 so far is a flop compared to the godly 50 cent video game.

:roll:

in SW, flop is considered hyped below a certain score. Forza was a AAA title. flopza is not a valid name.

I'm well aware of that. :| I'm pointing out how flawed his logic is.

sorry, i was agreeing with you. just didn't sound like it in my post.

[QUOTE="penguino726"]

1.how bout' we come to an agreement that both have a ups and downs and give totally different feels

2. would all this hating be going on if both were multiplat?

3. please stop owning forza with a game tha hasn't come out, I agree that GT is equal or better than forza, but threads like these dont sell your arguement well.

Ninja-Vox

Would we not kinda expect it to be better, seeing as it's been in development around twice the length of time Forza has anyway? :?

You'd have thought seeing as its the 5th attempt they'd would have managed to make the game FUN to play... but I said something similar with the 4th one and that was just pants.