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#1 Rikusaki
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GT5 Trailer Breakdown

[Theories, ideas & high res screenshots]

GTPLanet user "Moglet" takes screenshots of the GT5 E3 Trailer and breaks it down for us. Very interesting.


Nothing in this post or is concrete evidence, it is based upon this video alone and the opinions posted are just ideas and possibilities

Descriptions of images are BELOW the image.


First up we have the first scene that suggested to me that this video was NOT pre rendered CGI. In the past we've seen pre rendered videos that looked stunning, often flawless. So would PD really spend all that time making a CGI video only to include the poorly textured flowers, wall and character? This could be a photomode location of a 'start of race' video that plays as the cars are lining up.

Once again, why would you pre render something and leave in something as glaringly obvious as a repeated road texture, as seen here?

Onto the ever questionable damage from the trailer. First of all, the damage looks reasonable to me, as if it could happen on single car events, such as rallies. Wether it will survive to make it into events where there are loads of cars on track is yet to be seen. Not only do we see damage, but dirt too. Lots of it. Except for on the rear wheel arch panel. An early model for the dust mechanic? The area in question has been marked with red arrows.

Another case of dust stopping suddenly, as marked with red arrows. Also shown here are low res textures (Rally Japan door graphics) that would not have been rendered so badly for a CGI video. Could it be that each panel has dust rendered seperately onto it incase that panel then comes detached from the vehicle?

That's just plain weird. Maybe you can actually now turn collisions off for online racing?

Is it the Top Gear track or not? Hard to say, but those buildings do look remarkably similar to me. The only thing missing is the roof with the 3 points on it.

Nurburgring at sunset and sunrise. Or not. All the 2nd image is is a normal replay with a blue filter applied. The shadows of the trees are in the same direction and are the same length on both replays, so the time of day is the same.

SLR driver with the sunglasses.

This is about the best grab i could get of the engine bay but it seems that some detail has gone into modelling the various components.

Here is the same section of Tsukuba circuit at different parts of the GT5 trailer, notice the light poles and white wall lining is missing in one of the shots.

Different points in development of the tracks? Maybe PD had these videos on file for quite some time rather than making it all fresh and current for the GT5

trailer. Maybe the lights were added for nighttime racing?

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What do you guys think about this? If most of these theories and Ideas are true, GT5 will look much better than Prologue.

One can dream, right? :P

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Damn, PS1 or worse textures on the buildings.

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Car model looks kinda shady. Jaggies and not very detailed, although the WRX image looks the most impressive.

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#3 heretrix
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I admire your devotion to GT. I wish I was still as enthusiastic about it. But I won't ruin your thread whining about it. Rock on.

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Damn, PS1 or worse textures on the buildings.BioShockOwnz
When you are racing, the less important thing are the textures on the buildings (which looks very good, btw).
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This could however be some other airport drag strip but an airport would not look so sparse in the background (it would have planes and buildings), this just has two huts on the right hand side of the shot.

I think its these two buildings at the Top Gear Track seen on Google Earth.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Damn, PS1 or worse textures on the buildings.IronBass
When you are racing, the less important thing are the textures on the buildings (which looks very good, btw).

that is what I was thinking, you cannot get out of your car whilst racing! so textures are not important.
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#7 Couth_
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I still think it was CGI, but if not then damn, because it obviously looks like CGI
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dont even compare with prologue......look at prologue 2, 3, 4, ratings compared with gt 2, 3, 4........each prologue was around 60%.....each gt was around 90%.......this time prologue is around 80%........gt5 will be around 100%........
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#9 heretrix
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I think its these two buildings at the Top Gear Track seen on Google Earth.

Rikusaki

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If Jeremy Clarkson turns out to be in this game, then I'll be buying Forza 3 instead.

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#11 -DrRobotnik-
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Whats so good about the Top Gear track?
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Whats so good about the Top Gear track? -DrRobotnik-
Beating the celebrity lap times in a s****y car :twisted:
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Heeee's Baaaaack :P. Thanks for this update Riku.
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I still think it was CGI, but if not then damn, because it obviously looks like CGICouth_
Have you played Prologue? The car models look just like what was shown in the video.
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I still think it was CGI, but if not then damn, because it obviously looks like CGICouth_
Jessica Chobot at IGN said it was real-time. Other than that, there's no evidence going either way. I hope it is lol, and thanks to Poly's history on the PS3, it's not a far fetch.
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What a LOAD of information you've dumped all over us.
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Am I the only one who is hyping this as a potential AAAA game? I know it will probably get AAA though, but you never know.
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What a LOAD of information you've dumped all over us.AAllxxjjnn
Yeah, my load was getting a little too big so I just had to let some out on you guys. :)
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Am I the only one who is hyping this as a potential AAAA game? I know it will probably get AAA though, but you never know.clubsammich91
theres no way this game is Not getting AAAA......no way......
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#20 Couth_
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Have you played Prologue? The car models look just like what was shown in the video.jakarai
I owned prologue. The care models are a little better in the video and have less jaggies. Also there seems to be a lot more effects like dust smoke and motion blur, which could be just because they were replay, which tone down the frames in favor of more effects.
[QUOTE="Couth_"]I still think it was CGI, but if not then damn, because it obviously looks like CGIEpisode_Eve
Jessica Chobot at IGN said it was real-time. Other than that, there's no evidence going either way. I hope it is lol, and thanks to Poly's history on the PS3, it's not a far fetch.

Yeah what I did was watch the GT5 trailer and Forza 3 gameplay side by side, Forza 3 looks good but GT looked like CGI in comparison

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More and more signs point to it being real time than CGI. And if it is actually real time... I will go insane (in a good way).
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dont even compare with prologue......look at prologue 2, 3, 4, ratings compared with gt 2, 3, 4........each prologue was around 60%.....each gt was around 90%.......this time prologue is around 80%........gt5 will be around 100%........Supa__Mario

Yes it will. ;)

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Damn, PS1 or worse textures on the buildings.

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Car model looks kinda shady. Jaggies and not very detailed, although the WRX image looks the most impressive.

BioShockOwnz
Your insight goes to aid the argument that it is indeed real-time :).
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I owned prologue. The care models are a little better in the video and have less jaggies. Also there seems to be a lot more effects like dust smoke and blur, which could be just because they were replay, which tone down the frames in favor of more effects. [QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Couth_"]I still think it was CGI, but if not then damn, because it obviously looks like CGICouth_
Jessica Chobot at IGN said it was real-time. Other than that, there's no evidence going either way. I hope it is lol, and thanks to Poly's history on the PS3, it's not a far fetch.

Yeah what I did was watch the GT5 trailer and Forza 3 gameplay side by side, Forza 3 looks good but GT looked like CGI in comparison

That's the thing! The trailer looks so damn good everyone (including myself) assumed it was CGI :P.

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[QUOTE="Couth_"]I owned prologue. The care models are a little better in the video and have less jaggies. Also there seems to be a lot more effects like dust smoke and blur, which could be just because they were replay, which tone down the frames in favor of more effects. [QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Jessica Chobot at IGN said it was real-time. Other than that, there's no evidence going either way. I hope it is lol, and thanks to Poly's history on the PS3, it's not a far fetch.TREAL_Since

Yeah what I did was watch the GT5 trailer and Forza 3 gameplay side by side, Forza 3 looks good but GT looked like CGI in comparison

That's the thing! The trailer looks so damn good everyone (including myself) assumed it was CGI :P.

I thought it was CG too:P Damn this is one fine looking game!
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Damn, PS1 or worse textures on the buildings.samuraiguns
When you are racing, the less important thing are the textures on the buildings (which looks very good, btw).

that is what I was thinking, you cannot get out of your car whilst racing! so textures are not important.

esspecially that high up on the building.

you would never get that close to a building wile driving, even if you stop and take a gander.

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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"] Yeah what I did was watch the GT5 trailer and Forza 3 gameplay side by side, Forza 3 looks good but GT looked like CGI in comparisonclubsammich91

That's the thing! The trailer looks so damn good everyone (including myself) assumed it was CGI :P.

I thought it was CG too:P Damn this is one fine looking game!

me too.

it looks incredible to me, if that damage shot is how the game looks then...wow

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I know this won't stop the fanboys from comparing and bashing but I think regardless of what you buy GT5 or Forza3, you will be getting a really good racing sim.

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This being real time is like Sony delivering what was promised back in 2005. Nice. :D
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Am I the only one who is hyping this as a potential AAAA game? I know it will probably get AAA though, but you never know.Supa__Mario
theres no way this game is Not getting AAAA......no way......

I can see it now....

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[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Am I the only one who is hyping this as a potential AAAA game? I know it will probably get AAA though, but you never know.Rikusaki

theres no way this game is Not getting AAAA......no way......

I can see it now....

WTF that looks real...You have access to the future Riku lol.

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I am starting to get goosebumps while beginning to get more and more convinced this may be real time. Well with the whole killzone 2 05 controversy, we at least know sony have learned their lesson, but I sincerely thought on tuesday that the trailer was cg. Damn if this is real time then this is actually quite scary what polyphony have made.

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Wow thats some really good info. This game will rock, hope it comes this year.
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#35 Tobin09
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I don't see it able to get a 10 at gamespot. other places, heck yea.

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#36 thelastguy
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Another great thread Riku :D

I thought for sure that trailer was CG, but after that analysis I don't think it is

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[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Am I the only one who is hyping this as a potential AAAA game? I know it will probably get AAA though, but you never know.Rikusaki

theres no way this game is Not getting AAAA......no way......

I can see it now....

Photoshoppin' skills are awe inspiring.

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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] theres no way this game is Not getting AAAA......no way......samuraiguns

I can see it now....

Photoshoppin' skills are awe inspiring.

Who says that was photoshop;)

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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

I can see it now....

*GT5 gets 10 at GS pic*

clubsammich91

Photoshoppin' skills are awe inspiring.

Who says that was photoshop;)

It's a pic from the future 8).

10,000th post lol. Nice. This should come true now!

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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"] Photoshoppin' skills are awe inspiring.

Episode_Eve

Who says that was photoshop;)

It's a pic from the future 8).

10,000th post lol. Nice. This should come true now!

Whoa! :o Congrats on your 10,000th post! :)
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

I can see it now....

clubsammich91

Photoshoppin' skills are awe inspiring.

Who says that was photoshop;)

Gamespot already pre-made this page because they knew exactly how Awesome GT5 would be. :P

I predict AAAAE. :D

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Listen the only thing I am worrying about is that I hope you will be able to play your own music! It would really suck if that wasn't possible!
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#43 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"] Photoshoppin' skills are awe inspiring.

jakehouston88

Who says that was photoshop;)

Gamespot already pre-made this page because they knew exactly how Awesome GT5 would be. :P

I predict AAAAE. :D

I would hype this game AAAE just to be safe, lol. :P

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Am I the only one who is hyping this as a potential AAAA game? I know it will probably get AAA though, but you never know.clubsammich91
Racing games don't get AAAA.
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#45 Jrfanfreak88
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Listen the only thing I am worrying about is that I hope you will be able to play your own music! It would really suck if that wasn't possible!AdamPA1006
ooooo dude. You shouldn't have music on during the races! You gotta hear your tires and the draft coming off the car in front of you!
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I know this won't stop the fanboys from comparing and bashing but I think regardless of what you buy GT5 or Forza3, you will be getting a really good racing sim.

whatisazerg
sounds like your a forza fan......
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Damn, PS1 or worse textures on the buildings.

BioShockOwnz

You actually pay attention to those things when you play racing games?? :?

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#49 bigblunt537
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Wow good job breaking down the video. To bad it ownt convince most Forza people because they are brainwashed by MS.

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#50 bigblunt537
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It's funny. I'm surprised that a thousand fanboy didn't come ehre saying that this doesn't prove anything at all. I guess I must keep waiting.(goes get popcorn for later)