GT5 will be better than Forza 2. Here's why.

It's the sad truth, my fellow lemmings.  I have been recently indoctrinated into the Logitech G25 cult and have been playing GTR 2 and GT Legends.  This wheel surpasses all others, and despite the price listed on Logitech's site, you can get it for $230 CDN.

Now, the 360 wheel has had reported problems of being off-centre approximately 10 degrees, having a loose feeling in the steering column, and the shifter paddles feeling very flimsy.  This wheel also has a retail price of $160 CDN.

Now, why am I comparing the two, you ask?  Here's why.  This is GT:HD running with a Logitech G25, as the wheel is also supported on the PS2 and is fully compatible with the PS3.  Currently due to the court case with Immersion, GT:HD does not have "rumble" but it still has "force feedback" (a minor technicality).  I'm certain since the lawsuit has been settled that GT5 will have both FF and rumble at its disposal.

Currently there are no plans to support this wheel on the 360.  Microsoft is shoving their first party garbage wheel to 360 consumers and not giving us the option for a better wheel.  The difference between a flimsy wheel with terrible paddles, no shifter, and two pedals and then going to the G25 is HUGE.

This decision goes against all I had thought about Forza 2 and their goals to make the game as sim-like as possible.  Most of the cars in the game do not use paddle shifting, and are full manual.  Why would such a popular wheel simply NOT be supported?  Forza 2 has just been turned from a near-sim into an arcade sim.  Damage modelling or not, I'd rather play with a much better wheel and NO damage modelling, than a half-assed wheel experience with damage.

I'll probably still get Forza 2, but I'll play it with a controller, the way arcade racers SHOULD be played.  I'll leave my racing sims on PC.  This was my most anticipated game for 360... way to go, Microsoft.

Myopic Canadian. Look at the bigger picture!

It's the sad truth, my fellow lemmings.  I have been recently indoctrinated into the Logitech G25 cult and have been playing GTR 2 and GT Legends.  This wheel surpasses all others, and despite the price listed on Logitech's site, you can get it for $230 CDN.

Now, the 360 wheel has had reported problems of being off-centre approximately 10 degrees, having a loose feeling in the steering column, and the shifter paddles feeling very flimsy.  This wheel also has a retail price of $160 CDN.

Now, why am I comparing the two, you ask?  Here's why.  This is GT:HD running with a Logitech G25, as the wheel is also supported on the PS2 and is fully compatible with the PS3.  Currently due to the court case with Immersion, GT:HD does not have "rumble" but it still has "force feedback" (a minor technicality).  I'm certain since the lawsuit has been settled that GT5 will have both FF and rumble at its disposal.

Currently there are no plans to support this wheel on the 360.  Microsoft is shoving their first party garbage wheel to 360 consumers and not giving us the option for a better wheel.  The difference between a flimsy wheel with terrible paddles, no shifter, and two pedals and then going to the G25 is HUGE.

This decision goes against all I had thought about Forza 2 and their goals to make the game as sim-like as possible.  Most of the cars in the game do not use paddle shifting, and are full manual.  Why would such a popular wheel simply NOT be supported?  Forza 2 has just been turned from a near-sim into an arcade sim.  Damage modelling or not, I'd rather play with a much better wheel and NO damage modelling, than a half-assed wheel experience with damage.

I'll probably still get Forza 2, but I'll play it with a controller, the way arcade racers SHOULD be played.  I'll leave my racing sims on PC.  This was my most anticipated game for 360... way to go, Microsoft.

MyopicCanadian

I'm sorry, but a shifter is not > than Force Feedback, (not rumble) so the PS3 is at a disadvantage. And the X360 wheel is excellent, barring the lack of shifters. I feel it is more solid, more like a MOMO racing wheel.

I'm sorry, but a shifter is not > than Force Feedback, (not rumble) so the PS3 is at a disadvantage. And the X360 wheel is excellent, barring the lack of shifters. I feel it is more solid, more like a MOMO racing wheel. cars50

What makes you think GT5 won't have force feedback?

Nothing beats GT in racing. Except Crash Team Racing. Maybe.BigDaddyPOLO

and motorstorm

Dude I heard that 360 wheel is great but does have problems with PGR3 but I think it's because the game wasn't meant for a wheel. Anyway Wirless is better than Wired. So enjoy that. ;)

the 360 wheel destroys that :|Rob2223

Dude I heard that 360 wheel is great but does have problems with PGR3 but I think it's because the game wasn't meant for a wheel. Anyway Wirless is better than Wired. So enjoy that. ;)

PS3_3DO

[QUOTE="Rob2223"]the 360 wheel destroys that :|Hammerofjustice

[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]the 360 wheel destroys that :|Rob2223

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Dude I heard that 360 wheel is great but does have problems with PGR3 but I think it's because the game wasn't meant for a wheel. Anyway Wirless is better than Wired. So enjoy that. ;)

Rob2223

It's a sure thing that GT 5 will destroy Forza 2 in the graphics department.

No contest there.

[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Dude I heard that 360 wheel is great but does have problems with PGR3 but I think it's because the game wasn't meant for a wheel. Anyway Wirless is better than Wired. So enjoy that. ;)

Hammerofjustice

U don't need racing wheel in GT series, it has nothing to do with autosimdimar19

[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Dude I heard that 360 wheel is great but does have problems with PGR3 but I think it's because the game wasn't meant for a wheel. Anyway Wirless is better than Wired. So enjoy that. ;)

Rob2223

[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]the 360 wheel destroys that :|MyopicCanadian

[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Dude I heard that 360 wheel is great but does have problems with PGR3 but I think it's because the game wasn't meant for a wheel. Anyway Wirless is better than Wired. So enjoy that. ;)

Hammerofjustice

[QUOTE="dimar19"]U don't need racing wheel in GT series, it has nothing to do with autosimwhoisryanmack

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]the 360 wheel destroys that :|Rob2223

Wow... how old are you, 12? This thread is for actual debating, not childish banter.

[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]the 360 wheel destroys that :|MyopicCanadian

[QUOTE="cars50"]I'm sorry, but a shifter is not > than Force Feedback, (not rumble) so the PS3 is at a disadvantage. And the X360 wheel is excellent, barring the lack of shifters. I feel it is more solid, more like a MOMO racing wheel. MyopicCanadian

What makes you think GT5 won't have force feedback?

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

[QUOTE="cars50"]I'm sorry, but a shifter is not > than Force Feedback, (not rumble) so the PS3 is at a disadvantage. And the X360 wheel is excellent, barring the lack of shifters. I feel it is more solid, more like a MOMO racing wheel. zzzaaa

What makes you think GT5 won't have force feedback?

[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]the 360 wheel destroys that :|Rob2223

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="dimar19"]U don't need racing wheel in GT series, it has nothing to do with autosimdimar19

[QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

[QUOTE="cars50"]I'm sorry, but a shifter is not > than Force Feedback, (not rumble) so the PS3 is at a disadvantage. And the X360 wheel is excellent, barring the lack of shifters. I feel it is more solid, more like a MOMO racing wheel. whoisryanmack

What makes you think GT5 won't have force feedback?

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

[QUOTE="cars50"]I'm sorry, but a shifter is not > than Force Feedback, (not rumble) so the PS3 is at a disadvantage. And the X360 wheel is excellent, barring the lack of shifters. I feel it is more solid, more like a MOMO racing wheel. zzzaaa

What makes you think GT5 won't have force feedback?

Dude I heard that 360 wheel is great but does have problems with PGR3 but I think it's because the game wasn't meant for a wheel. Anyway Wirless is better than Wired. So enjoy that. ;)

PS3_3DO

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Dude I heard that 360 wheel is great but does have problems with PGR3 but I think it's because the game wasn't meant for a wheel. Anyway Wirless is better than Wired. So enjoy that. ;)

MyopicCanadian

[QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

[QUOTE="cars50"]I'm sorry, but a shifter is not > than Force Feedback, (not rumble) so the PS3 is at a disadvantage. And the X360 wheel is excellent, barring the lack of shifters. I feel it is more solid, more like a MOMO racing wheel. whoisryanmack

What makes you think GT5 won't have force feedback?

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

[QUOTE="cars50"]I'm sorry, but a shifter is not > than Force Feedback, (not rumble) so the PS3 is at a disadvantage. And the X360 wheel is excellent, barring the lack of shifters. I feel it is more solid, more like a MOMO racing wheel. zzzaaa

What makes you think GT5 won't have force feedback?