GTA4 (graphically) isn't that great. (56k)

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#1 catlin_czirr
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Now of course the game looks so freaking fun! But the thing is the graphics honestly do not look that great considering it is a next gen game and all, and it doesn't look a whole lot better than Saints Row IMO. It does look better though, just not very much. I know GTA4 in the end will be a much better game.

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#3 Gen007
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well i mean i cant be expected to be the best thing ever because its a open ened sanbox game but i think its look real good better thans row to in saints row everthing looked so bland and nothing had any detail to it GTA has these things
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#4 madmidnight
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I don't see any way i can respond to what you said...
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#5 p3anut
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GTA was never about graphics. Just look at the other games it looked like crap. Even tho they can make it look better I dont care since GTA was about the gameplay. Looks good to me.
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#6 cobrax25
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well i mean i cant be expected to be the best thing ever because its a open ened sanbox game but i think its look real good better thans row to in saints row everthing looked so bland and nothing had any detail to it GTA has these thingsGen007

so is STALKER clear sky, and thats a very good looking game.

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#7 Arsenal325
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we all know gta4 doesnt looks absolutely mind blowing.. has any gta ever looked amazing? the reason why it doesnt look AMAZING is because of it being an open world with cars and people everywhere.. dont excpect MINDBLOWING graphics for an open world console game with as much stuff going on all at once like gta has.
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#8 munu9
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No, it looks A LOT better (at least in terms of cars) in terms of background GTA4 might be able to match or come close to GT5 but GT5 cars totally own the graphics of any other game that has cars in it...
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#9 krp008
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Who said SR's graphics were bad??
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#10 ImOldGreg
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the only shot that doesnt look fantastic is the bank heist scene the rest look a treat...
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#11 Arsenal325
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[QUOTE="Gen007"]well i mean i cant be expected to be the best thing ever because its a open ened sanbox game but i think its look real good better thans row to in saints row everthing looked so bland and nothing had any detail to it GTA has these thingscobrax25

so is STALKER clear sky, and thats a very good looking game.

stalker doesnt take place in an ENORMOUS city with people and cars everywhere you look

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#12 LibertySaint
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its true, open world sandbox games with no loading are B**ches to make. but hey crackdown was awsome! sadly assassins had loadig, but very lil, i say it is graphically the best looking free roaming game, then crackdown, and then oblivion and then so on.
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#13 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Gen007"]well i mean i cant be expected to be the best thing ever because its a open ened sanbox game but i think its look real good better thans row to in saints row everthing looked so bland and nothing had any detail to it GTA has these thingsArsenal325

so is STALKER clear sky, and thats a very good looking game.

stalker doesnt take place in an ENORMOUS city with people and cars everywhere you look

But it is much more detailed.

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[QUOTE="Gen007"]well i mean i cant be expected to be the best thing ever because its a open ened sanbox game but i think its look real good better thans row to in saints row everthing looked so bland and nothing had any detail to it GTA has these thingscobrax25

so is STALKER clear sky, and thats a very good looking game.

and *drums roll* CRYSIS

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#15 kingman03
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GTA was always about gameplay. Never really about graphics.
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#16 catlin_czirr
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The thing is GTA4 looks better than Saints Row (as it should) since Saints Row came out a long time ago, it's just it doesn't look that much better. It is very compairable.
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#17 MrGrimFandango
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GTA is a friggin huge game....what other game is that massive in size and looks that good, at the same time?
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#18 mccoyca112
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Agreed...too much bloom.
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#19 zero9167
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yes. yes, it is :| im tired of saying it. Just wait till the game releases in a month.
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#20 dracula_16
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When looking at it's graphics, you have to consider the scale of a GTA game. Obviously you can't expect it to have AI for all pedestrians, lifelike traffic, buildings to go in and have it look like Crysis. Graphical compromises have to be made in a game like this in order for the frame rate to remain smooth.

When you consider the scale of GTA 4, I don't understand how someone can think it looks unimpressive.

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#21 zero9167
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When looking at it's graphics, you have to consider the scale of a GTA game. Obviously you can't expect it to have AI for all pedestrians, lifelike traffic, buildings to go in and have it look like Crysis. Graphical compromises have to be made in a game like this in order for the frame rate to remain smooth.

When you consider the scale of GTA 4, I don't understand how someone can think it looks unimpressive.

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exactly :)
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#22 catlin_czirr
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GTA is a friggin huge game....what other game is that massive in size and looks that good, at the same time?MrGrimFandango
How is it any bigger than Saints Row? The map is the same size as GTA3 since it IS in Liberty City.
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#23 zero9167
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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]GTA is a friggin huge game....what other game is that massive in size and looks that good, at the same time?catlin_czirr
How is it any bigger than Saints Row? The map is the same size as GTA3 since it IS in Liberty City.

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#24 Dante2710
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GTA series was never, nver known for having mind blowing graphics.......i guess in this generation....every game that is going to be release should be amazing when it comes to graphics :roll: if graphics makes such a huge impact on how u look at a certain game....or even buy....then get a pc :| problem solve
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#25 Gen007
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[QUOTE="Gen007"]well i mean i cant be expected to be the best thing ever because its a open ened sanbox game but i think its look real good better thans row to in saints row everthing looked so bland and nothing had any detail to it GTA has these thingscobrax25

so is STALKER clear sky, and thats a very good looking game.

all im saying that is GTA and siants row are probably the best your gonna get on this type of game on current gen consoles you cant expect it to look much better but GTA looks alot better than saints row than you ask me

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#26 Cedmln
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have no idea what you are talking about.

there is alot more to graphics than tectures and polygons.

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#27 Juggernaut140
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GTA is a friggin huge game....what other game is that massive in size and looks that good, at the same time?MrGrimFandango

Just Cause?

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#28 schu
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its a massive improvement over san andreas
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#29 MrGrimFandango
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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]GTA is a friggin huge game....what other game is that massive in size and looks that good, at the same time?Juggernaut140

Just Cause?

There Ill help you again.

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#30 catlin_czirr
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its a massive improvement over san andreasschu
Thats true.
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#31 MrGrimFandango
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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]GTA is a friggin huge game....what other game is that massive in size and looks that good, at the same time?catlin_czirr
How is it any bigger than Saints Row? The map is the same size as GTA3 since it IS in Liberty City.

When did I mention Saints Row? for the record, I havnt liked GTA since Vice and GTA4 looks WAY better with its grittier look than Saints Row plastic clean look.

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#32 ImOldGreg
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]GTA is a friggin huge game....what other game is that massive in size and looks that good, at the same time?zero9167
How is it any bigger than Saints Row? The map is the same size as GTA3 since it IS in Liberty City.

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#33 AAllxxjjnn
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It has a much better artstyle then saints row.
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#34 Lonelynight
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Looks good enough
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#35 OpiateE
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It has a much better artstyle then saints row.AAllxxjjnn

lol, i bet the only people putting out negative comments are the sheep, i wonder why...

oh yeah, i know why!

lol

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#36 NSR34GTR
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it looks great IMO
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#37 FrozenLiquid
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Looks fantastic. Gentlemen, this generation, screenshots don't do any game justice. It's all in the videos.
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#38 Pro_wrestler
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TC needs to get his/her eyes checked cause it looks really good from my POV.
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#39 TheMistique
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sorry i cant pay attention to the topic at hand, i keep looking at the TC's avatar
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#40 goblaa
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It looks bad because it's open ended my ***. If that were true, Crackdown, Saint's Row, and Oblivion wouldn't look nearly as good as they do. R* is a fine dev, but when it comes to graphics, they have never been anything more than untalented.
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#41 Lazy_Boy88
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Really don't care at all what it looks like.
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#42 SapSacPrime
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Has any GTA game ever looked great for its time? its not surprising when you take into account how large the open areas you can explore are, something has to be sacrificed for all that freedom and people complaining about it proves how graphics obsessed this generation is making people.
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#43 wemhim
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It looks bad because it's open ended my ***. If that were true, Crackdown, Saint's Row, and Oblivion wouldn't look nearly as good as they do. R* is a fine dev, but when it comes to graphics, they have never been anything more than untalented.goblaa
Agreed, the Warriors and Manhunt weren't exactly MGS3. But I still think the graphics look good, not compared to OTHER games, but in general eye pleasing.
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#44 FrozenLiquid
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It looks bad because it's open ended my ***. If that were true, Crackdown, Saint's Row, and Oblivion wouldn't look nearly as good as they do. R* is a fine dev, but when it comes to graphics, they have never been anything more than untalented.goblaa
It's got better character models than Oblivion, better lighting than Saint's Row, and a different art direction than Crackdown. The stigma that GTA IV looks like crap needs to stop. People shouldn't be comparing screens, nor should they be comparing the "disappointing" GTA IV graphics with their fantasized versions (i.e games in the mind's eye) of previous games which wowed them in the past.
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#45 wemhim
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]It looks bad because it's open ended my ***. If that were true, Crackdown, Saint's Row, and Oblivion wouldn't look nearly as good as they do. R* is a fine dev, but when it comes to graphics, they have never been anything more than untalented.FrozenLiquid
It's got better character models than Oblivion, better lighting than Saint's Row, and a different art direction than Crackdown. The stigma that GTA IV looks like crap needs to stop. People shouldn't be comparing screens, nor should they be comparing the "disappointing" GTA IV graphics with their fantasized versions (i.e games in the mind's eye) of previous games which wowed them in the past.

Agreed. I think it looks great, but he IS right about the past ones looking like crap just cuz. ALL their games looked pretty crappy last gen.
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#46 FrozenLiquid
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Agreed. I think it looks great, but he IS right about the past ones looking like crap just cuz. ALL their games looked pretty crappy last gen.
wemhim
Yeah, that's true. This was never going to compare with Gears of War or Uncharted so why people keep hating on GTA IV like this is beyond me.
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#47 tenaka2
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GTA 3 looked great for its time, 4 looks good enough. Im sure the game will be great.

I don't think it does anything new though. They seem to have made little progress with the series over the last while. Its still a winning formula I guess.

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#48 Dante2710
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i feel so tempted to post pics from magazines......people really need to re-play san andears......and they will def noticed the difference
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#49 darkplayer
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It looks great to me.
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#50 daveg1
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i think the graphics for the type of game are pretty damn good..