GTA4 will seal Sony's fate in NA

sony doesn't care about games remember. they didn't even fight for gta and dmc being exclusive. that's gonna cost them.

Madden and GTA are both on PS3 so I don't know what you're talking about buddy. Warhawk, RFOM, KZ2, MGS4, and GT5 are also on PS3.AIH_PSP

all those games you mentioned have never sold consoles or been casual sellers

Madden and GTA are both on PS3 so I don't know what you're talking about buddy. Warhawk, RFOM, KZ2, MGS4, and GT5 are also on PS3.AIH_PSP

but out of them ps3 games only GT is a system seller especially when the 360 has the ps3 multiplats and hell of a lot more then 5 games to it

[QUOTE="AIH_PSP"]Madden and GTA are both on PS3 so I don't know what you're talking about buddy. Warhawk, RFOM, KZ2, MGS4, and GT5 are also on PS3.ParadiddleFill

all those games you mentioned have never sold consoles or been casual sellers

You must of over looked GT5.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="AIH_PSP"]Madden and GTA are both on PS3 so I don't know what you're talking about buddy. Warhawk, RFOM, KZ2, MGS4, and GT5 are also on PS3.xTHExJUICEx

all those games you mentioned have never sold consoles or been casual sellers

You must of over looked GT5.

youre right gt5 will sell ps3s but not so much for the rest

Madden and GTA are both on PS3 so I don't know what you're talking about buddy. Warhawk, RFOM, KZ2, MGS4, and GT5 are also on PS3.AIH_PSP

I think we can come to the conclusion that GTA will push more 360's, looking at how well Madden sold on the 360 compared to the PS3.

Once GTA4 hits 360 shelves all the NA casuals will see that they can play Halo, Madden, and GTA all on one system. This will create a sales deficit that Sony simply cannot overcome in NA. Better hope for a loyal Japanese and EU market, cows!Palax

I have a 360 but im buying GTA4 for my PS3 cause Blu Ray is cool!!! Plus having a atack of games next to the beautiful PS3 just looks better than a stack of games next to my Pro 360 with the chrome disc tray..

You should be worried about the power of FF13, MGS4 and GT5 NOOB! PS3 HAVE THREE TRUE SYSTEM SELLERS COMING IN "08".

GTA has never been exclusive, and besides, it's old hat. PS3 is getting Rockstar's new IP exclusively, and it's supposed to be just as huge as GTA.Timstuff

sony putting all its money on Killzone,unreal 3and mgs4 but the lost re5,dmc4 and ff13 so who knowskemar7856

sony putting all its money on Killzone,unreal 3and mgs4 but the lost re5,dmc4 and ff13 so who knowskemar7856

[QUOTE="AIH_PSP"]Madden and GTA are both on PS3 so I don't know what you're talking about buddy. Warhawk, RFOM, KZ2, MGS4, and GT5 are also on PS3.jet052006

I think we can come to the conclusion that GTA will push more 360's, looking at how well Madden sold on the 360 compared to the PS3.

Exactly the point I was making. Madden and GTA will sell more on 360, because of higher userbase and cheaper console cost.

[QUOTE="Palax"]Once GTA4 hits 360 shelves all the NA casuals will see that they can play Halo, Madden, and GTA all on one system. This will create a sales deficit that Sony simply cannot overcome in NA. Better hope for a loyal Japanese and EU market, cows!K-E316

No $hit sherlock

Actually you got it allbackwards..Answer me this how many copies of Gta sold on Ps2 Vs xbox? and aal those who bought Gts for the Ps2 were casuals and the one who bought it for the xbox aren't casual since the xbox wasn't a casual system ;)Kushstrain

PS2 was GTA's launch platform. So your point makes absolutely no sense. What you guys fail to realize is that beside the obvious researched fanboys most casuals are still unaware of an xbox360 GTA release.

[QUOTE="K-E316"][QUOTE="Palax"]Once GTA4 hits 360 shelves all the NA casuals will see that they can play Halo, Madden, and GTA all on one system. This will create a sales deficit that Sony simply cannot overcome in NA. Better hope for a loyal Japanese and EU market, cows!Palax

No $hit sherlock

Or they will see they can play

Madden
GTA
Gran Turismo


On one console. Seeing how the GT series is only 2nd to GTA series as top selling games of all time.
GarchomPro

Or they can Have PGR3, PGR4, Forza2 and Halo 3 as well as madden and GTA. Sounds like 360 is the obvious choice.

Or they will see they can play

Madden
GTA
Gran Turismo


On one console. Seeing how the GT series is only 2nd to GTA series as top selling games of all time.
GarchomPro

WRONG

GTA will boost sales for both consoles, the question is. Which one more....Dun dun dun. Maybe the 360, maybe the PS3, only time will tell.wemhim

The choice is obvious. There is no wait and see. The cheaper console will win. Except in Xbox360's case its cheaper and superior in software.

[QUOTE="AIH_PSP"]Madden and GTA are both on PS3 so I don't know what you're talking about buddy. Warhawk, RFOM, KZ2, MGS4, and GT5 are also on PS3.ParadiddleFill

all those games you mentioned have never sold consoles or been casual sellers

[QUOTE="wemhim"]GTA will boost sales for both consoles, the question is. Which one more....Dun dun dun. Maybe the 360, maybe the PS3, only time will tell.Palax

The choice is obvious. There is no wait and see. The cheaper console will win. Except in Xbox360's case its cheaper and superior in software.

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Or they will see they can play

Madden
GTA
Gran Turismo


On one console. Seeing how the GT series is only 2nd to GTA series as top selling games of all time.
Palax

Or they can Have PGR3, PGR4, Forza2 and Halo 3 as well as madden and GTA. Sounds like 360 is the obvious choice.

[QUOTE="wemhim"]GTA will boost sales for both consoles, the question is. Which one more....Dun dun dun. Maybe the 360, maybe the PS3, only time will tell.Palax

The choice is obvious. There is no wait and see. The cheaper console will win. Except in Xbox360's case its cheaper and superior in software.

[QUOTE="Palax"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]GTA will boost sales for both consoles, the question is. Which one more....Dun dun dun. Maybe the 360, maybe the PS3, only time will tell.TheForgotten0ne

The choice is obvious. There is no wait and see. The cheaper console will win. Except in Xbox360's case its cheaper and superior in software.

Yes you heard me. Superior in software. Superior in quality and quantity. If you want to argue this then you already fail. If you want to bring up future software titles unreleased then you fail. As of right now the 360 is the software king (cept for PC)

Once GTA4 hits 360 shelves all the NA casuals will see that they can play Halo, Madden, and GTA all on one system. This will create a sales deficit that Sony simply cannot overcome in NA. Better hope for a loyal Japanese and EU market, cows!Palax

whatever i think most people are going to want to play GTA on the ps3 because thats where it originated from. Alot of people are used to the dualshock and arent going to want to change, same goes for DMC imo.

[QUOTE="TheForgotten0ne"][QUOTE="Palax"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]GTA will boost sales for both consoles, the question is. Which one more....Dun dun dun. Maybe the 360, maybe the PS3, only time will tell.Palax

The choice is obvious. There is no wait and see. The cheaper console will win. Except in Xbox360's case its cheaper and superior in software.

Yes you heard me. Superior in software. Superior in quality and quantity. If you want to argue this then you already fail. If you want to bring up future software titles unreleased then you fail. As of right now the 360 is the software king (cept for PC)

[QUOTE="Kushstrain"]Actually you got it all backwards..Answer me this how many copies of Gta sold on Ps2 Vs xbox? and all those who bought Gtas for the Ps2 were casuals and the one who bought it for the xbox aren't casual since the xbox wasn't a casual system ;)Palax

PS2 was GTA's launch platform. So your point makes absolutely no sense. What you guys fail to realize is that beside the obvious researched fanboys most casuals are still unaware of an xbox360 GTA release.

What do you mean I dont make sense..If you didnt get what I said than thats your own fault but to make it more clear so can you understand it, is thatgrand theft auto is alreadyknown as a playstation game and yeah i know it launches on the Ps2 but later on the xbox and if you look at how much they soldyou can see whatI mean, not alot of ppl are going to buy Gta for the xbox360 so I dont know why your saying that Gta will seal Ps3's fate..Why do yo think Sony didnt fight forit to be exclusive because they know it will sell better on their system.

Whats with this all of a sudden obsession with sales? Let the company higher ups and stockholders worry about sales. Shut up and play your games. Everybody wins. :|Not-A-Stalker

but its the way of the fanboy to obsess about sales.

but i agree with your post stalker

[QUOTE="AIH_PSP"]Madden and GTA are both on PS3 so I don't know what you're talking about buddy. Warhawk, RFOM, KZ2, MGS4, and GT5 are also on PS3.ParadiddleFill

all those games you mentioned have never sold consoles or been casual sellers

Excuse me? GTA4 will sell consoles.. It sold consoles for the PS2.. You are kidding yourself if you think GTA4 won't be almost as big as Halo3.. Sorry but Sony made a huge mistake giving MS GTA4

Others will see Madden, CoD 4, Resistance, Killzone, MGS, Final Fantasy, Gran Trusimo, Ratchet and Clank, DMC, and GTA all on the PS3.

So what if some of them are on the 360, they still are all playable on the PS3.

Sony's/PS3's fate was already sealed when the $600 price was announced. Over 90% of the PS2's sales came at $200 and below.

The end of Sony's dominance in the industry is already happening (check NPDs) and will become even more clear by the end of the year. At this rate, the PS3 will be lucky to sell 60mil units before the PS4 is out.

Others will see Madden, CoD 4, Resistance, Killzone, MGS, Final Fantasy, Gran Trusimo, Ratchet and Clank, DMC, and GTA all on the PS3.

So what if some of them are on the 360, they still are all playable on the PS3.

Wasdie

Others might see PGR4, Bioshock, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Mass Effect, Madden, GTA IV, Halo 3, Eternal Sonata, Gears of War, Forza 2, Perfect Dark Zero, COD 4, DMCavailable on the 360

Why would anyone get a 360 then, if you can play MGS4, Madden, and GTA on one system? :?MoldOnHold

Because casuals don't play MGS4, and the other two games are on the 360?

Anyway, if Microsoft clearly advertise that the 360 version has the extra content (the episodic missions), then they'll probably have an easy win with this one.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Others will see Madden, CoD 4, Resistance, Killzone, MGS, Final Fantasy, Gran Trusimo, Ratchet and Clank, DMC, and GTA all on the PS3.

So what if some of them are on the 360, they still are all playable on the PS3.

wmc540

Others might see PGR4, Bioshock, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Mass Effect, Madden, GTA IV, Halo 3, Eternal Sonata, Gears of War, Forza 2, Perfect Dark Zero, COD 4, DMCavailable on the 360