GTAIV isn't better than GTA:SA

Okay, I have been playing GTAIV since I got it the day it came out, but I'm having trouble liking it better than San Andreas.

San Andreas had a huge, open world...a state, with rural areas between the 3 unique cities. GTAIV is just one city that doesn't faithfully represent the real life NYC. This bothers me, especially as someone who lived in NYC. Why do the subway trains only have 2-3 cars on them? Why is the empire state building near downtown? Sorry, but for those of you who think the game is a good representation of NYC, you are mistaken. The real NYC is WAY, WAY bigger than what you see in the game, and FAR more populated and busy.

Also, the controls seems to be WORSE than those in SA. Why the hell does Niko walk so damn slow? CJ walked faster than he does. You can't fly a plane, and the game isn't as long as SA was. Plus, the whole black ghetto theme of SA was more entertaining than controlling a white russian dude.

Sorry, but this game didn't deserve it's 10. Most overrated game EVER. I'd give it about a 9.5 though.

Neither are as good as Vice City...famicommander

Neither are as good as Vice City...famicommander

I totaly agree, that game is totaly awsome. I couldn't stop playing that one.

GTA: SA is a bit better then 4 becase there was so much crap to explore once you poen up the centire map in 4 it gets boring REAL fast. I bet If I were to play SA again I would be surprised at finding thing in the wilderness.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I was really dieing to open up Algonquon or whatever... and now i'm bored with it.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]GTA: SA is a bit better then 4 becase there was so much crap to explore once you poen up the centire map in 4 it gets boring REAL fast. I bet If I were to play SA again I would be surprised at finding thing in the wilderness.GundamGuy0

I was really dieing to open up Algonquon or whatever... and now i'm bored with it.

See, I couldn't stand SA because it was so big. Fail a mission for some reason, trek back across 15-20 minutes of map just to re do it again, and on top of that, the RPG-wannabe stuff was kinda weak, although I did enjoy the storyline (even if I find 4's story to be superior).

nah,gta4 is better than all the previous GTA's. in everything except music and big a list voice actors.

You seem to forget the fact that the city in GTAIV is LIBERTY CITY, not New York City.

GTA SA was the worst, GTA IV is the best.BioShockOwnz

I agree with this.

Neither are as good as Vice City...famicommander

I have to agree. I loved that one so much.

GTAIV is just one city that doesn't faithfully represent the real life NYC. This bothers me, especially as someone who lived in NYC.

HillaryOwns

Well buddy, its NOT NYC! Say it with me now.........Liberty City! You can whip out your old copy of True Crime:New York if you need to reminisce about the old city.

Plus, the whole black ghetto theme of SA was more entertaining than controlling a white russian dude.

HillaryOwns

That was a huge turn-off for me in SA. Blach ghetto - it was just too overdone that it felt ridiculous.

i think it's much better.. more space doesn't mean more quality.. more options doesn't mean more quality.

AND WE ALL KNOW IT'S NOT AN EXACT REPLICA OF NYC

controls are MUCH better and you can RUN faster by pressing faster

i agree, SA was a lot better .. had so much more

it was hard to top .. GTAIV takes a more realistic approach

it's still a good game though

you can't expect rockstar to keep making a better game each time can you? there has to be a limit

lol GTA IV aint even better then Dark Sector lulz i enjoyed Dark Sector more then GTA IV

there was more things to do in SA. i really dont know why GTA4 got the score it did, cause it didnt revolutionized nor innovated anything. it clearly got the score it did, cause it was a next gen GTA game.Rahnyc4

the story, presentation and polish of gta4 is alot better. not to mention MP. this is why it got a 10.

IMO its something that rockstar will never be able to do - bring all the aspects of all the gta games together in order to please everyone

IMO the best feature on SA was the gang wars which i miss, but im glad the character development has gone, making your character fat was pointless

biggest missing feature IMO was the ability to purchase property for vice city

Usually I try and respect other people's opinions, but you guys are talking crap, simple as that. Seriously, Vice City is better than GTAIV? :lol: that's laughable. Sure, you could argue that Vice City had a better soundtrack. You could argue it had better pacing, or a better atmosphere or map. But better gameplay? That's the nostalgia (or crack) talking. Some of you need to go back and play VC and SA, maybe then you'll see the massive leap forward in gameplay that IV has taken. The whole experiance is so much more streamlined, more enjoyable, everything is improved from the shooting, to the driving to the AI. Its mind boggling that anyone could say VC is better, gameplay wise. Heck, if VC was redone with IV's gameplay, it'd be a far better game (even without the other improvements) does that tell you nothing?

IMO its something that rockstar will never be able to do - bring all the aspects of all the gta games together in order to please everyone

IMO the best feature on SA was the gang wars which i miss, but im glad the character development has gone, making your character fat was pointless

biggest missing feature IMO was the ability to purchase property for vice city

villa4europe

thats what multiplayer is for

I agree 100%. GTA IV is great but it's not as good as SA

In my personal opinion - here is the order of GTA games from best to worst:

GTA III: San Andreas
GTA III: Vice City
GTA IV
GTA III

IMO the top two (San Andreas and Vice City) were the most interesting to play and had the most character. I love all the GTAs but GTA IV isn't my fav of the bunch.

Neither are as good as Vice City...famicommander

I liked VC alot. But the game was obviously a rush job.

San Andreas is by far the best out of the franchise.

Fun factor... base jumping, jets etc

San Andreas at least had a sense of acomplishment wich GTAIV definitely lacks.

San Andreas did so many things much better. And I thought I hated the setting of the game. But after having played GTAIV. I know now. San Andreas actually was the masterpiece.

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Neither are as good as Vice City...PullTheTricker

I liked VC alot. But the game was obviously a rush job.

San Andreas is by far the best out of the franchise.

Fun factor... base jumping, jets etc

San Andreas at least had a sense of acomplishment wich GTAIV definitely lacks.

San Andreas did so many things much better. And I thought I hated the setting of the game. But after having played GTAIV. I know now. San Andreas actually was the masterpiece.

I disagree i mean not only did I not care about the character CJ but when you defeat all the gangs and have control of the entire state the game is pretty much over, with gta4 you at least have online and you can always go back and go on a few dates and whatnot

bigger than what you see in the game, and FAR more populated and busy.

HillaryOwns

That's what disappointed me the most. The trailers made it look like a really vibrant, busy, populated city, but it just isnt'. It's just any other GTA game in terms of cars and pedestrians and their behaviour.

YES IT IS

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I dunno man, all those games are so special to me.

Vice city is clearly inferior to San Andreas, but I like it the best.

Each one is perfect to me, regardless of which one is best. San Andreas was awesome too.

I hope Rockstar revisits Vice City and San Andreas like they did Liberty City. A next gen VC or SA? Man oh man.