It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pmr-sheep
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ??
[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Ptranhgiang
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? Yeahhh
[QUOTE="tranhgiang"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pmr-sheep
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? Yeahhh
[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Ptranhgiang
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? I think they will. I'm not going to, but I know there will be many people that will. It's not a bad idea.
It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pmr-sheep
Kinda of cool as it expands the live community; not sure if this is better than Home. Will computer users pay for live? Maybe. We need to see them both implemented to make a call.
Why pay $50 USD a year to play games when I could just play them for free instead?foxhound_fox
It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon.
most ppl wont pay 50$ when they can do the same thing for free.. they wont be missing much its not like ppl on 360 would be a challange to them its not worth 50$
It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon.mr-sheep
That is the thing though... not every single 360 owner has a gaming PC and not every PC gamer has a 360. Paying to play games online is stupid, especially when you are paying 59.99 USD/69.99 CAD for a single game.
Supreme Commander is 29.99 USD/39.99 CAD and has free online.
Microsoft forcing PC owners to upgrade to Vista to play games is stupid as well. That is why I am buying a 360.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Why pay $50 USD a year to play games when I could just play them for free instead?mr-sheep
It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon. you could dual boot...
Live Anywhere is just an expansion to the live user base and still cant match up to what home can be. [end of story].nexusprime
Well we will see how Home will do after it is released. Until then we can't really say. As for me, a PC gamer, PSH looks like a total gimick. Sims approach, which is useless in my eyes. I'd rather have 2D menues as an interactive 3D approach. Things in Home look fancy, and have some value I guess, but it simply doesn't phase me a single bit. But if it get's the job done, why not.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Why pay $50 USD a year to play games when I could just play them for free instead?mr-sheep
It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon. If they own just a PC they won't be paying to play console gamers. XBL has such a terrible community I doubt I'll even play console gamers even though I have a gold account for my 360.
EDIT: And God knows racism and insults will fly when PC gamers are massacring the console gamers in FPSs.
[QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Why pay $50 USD a year to play games when I could just play them for free instead?Hewkii
It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon. you could dual boot... No he cant, since you need Vista, and you cant dual boot on apple's with Vista, only Xp. though I am sure that will be fixed.
[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Why pay $50 USD a year to play games when I could just play them for free instead?cobrax25
It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon. you could dual boot... No he cant, since you need Vista, and you cant dual boot on apple's with Vista, only Xp. though I am sure that will be fixed. actually, one of the On the Spots had a Macbook Pro dual booting Vista Ultimate (I forget the episode, but I remember they were playing Texas hold em with the 360 controller).
[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Why pay $50 USD a year to play games when I could just play them for free instead?Hewkii
It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon. you could dual boot... No he cant, since you need Vista, and you cant dual boot on apple's with Vista, only Xp. though I am sure that will be fixed. actually, one of the On the Spots had a Macbook Pro dual booting Vista Ultimate (I forget the episode, but I remember they were playing Texas hold em with the 360 controller). really? thats intresting.... then again I guess it makes sence, since now Macs use Intel CPU's they have almost identical architecture's to normal PCs.
[QUOTE="tranhgiang"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pmr-sheep
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? Yeahhh be honest, most hardcore PC gamers hate console users, I doubt it.
[QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pxboxps2cube
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? Yeahhh be honest, most hardcore PC gamers hate console users, I doubt it. I disagree...many just dont care, many will also have Consoles. The average PC gamer, is much older then the average console gamer. and a very large amount are in Europe, where Consoles simply arent as popular as they are here. but regardless, no one will pay $50, for acievments and cross platform play. Its simply pointless, and doesnt allow for Mods.
[QUOTE="xboxps2cube"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pcobrax25
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? Yeahhh be honest, most hardcore PC gamers hate console users, I doubt it. I disagree...many just dont care, many will also have Consoles. The average PC gamer, is much older then the average console gamer. and a very large amount are in Europe, where Consoles simply arent as popular as they are here. but regardless, no one will pay $50, for acievments and cross platform play. Its simply pointless, and doesnt allow for Mods.
as people ignored me before, on "on the spot" they said that pc gamers will only pay if they want to host games but it will be free for them to play others online. At least thats what they said.
[QUOTE="xboxps2cube"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pcobrax25
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? Yeahhh be honest, most hardcore PC gamers hate console users, I doubt it. I disagree...many just dont care, many will also have Consoles. The average PC gamer, is much older then the average console gamer. and a very large amount are in Europe, where Consoles simply arent as popular as they are here. but regardless, no one will pay $50, for acievments and cross platform play. Its simply pointless, and doesnt allow for Mods.
Hardcore, not average PC gamers. Average PC gamers will poop on Halo 2 xbox users with the precise controls it wouldn't even be fair anymore and plus if it costs then it wont happen for most PC gamers its that simple
[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="xboxps2cube"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pxboxps2cube
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? Yeahhh be honest, most hardcore PC gamers hate console users, I doubt it. I disagree...many just dont care, many will also have Consoles. The average PC gamer, is much older then the average console gamer. and a very large amount are in Europe, where Consoles simply arent as popular as they are here. but regardless, no one will pay $50, for acievments and cross platform play. Its simply pointless, and doesnt allow for Mods.
Hardcore, not average PC gamers. Average PC gamers will poop on Halo 2 xbox users with the precise controls it wouldn't even be fair anymore and plus if it costs then it wont happen for most PC gamers its that simple I think you will find that Hardcore PC gamers, play a different variation of FPS games then what you see on Consoles. Especially in Europe. They play a lot of Tactical shooters and what not. and I dont mean like R6: vegas...which is absolutely nothing compared to PC tactical shooters. Also, the Average PC game, last much much much more then the Average console game.
[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="xboxps2cube"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"][QUOTE="tranhgiang"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pboyinfridge
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? Yeahhh be honest, most hardcore PC gamers hate console users, I doubt it. I disagree...many just dont care, many will also have Consoles. The average PC gamer, is much older then the average console gamer. and a very large amount are in Europe, where Consoles simply arent as popular as they are here. but regardless, no one will pay $50, for acievments and cross platform play. Its simply pointless, and doesnt allow for Mods.
as people ignored me before, on "on the spot" they said that pc gamers will only pay if they want to host games but it will be free for them to play others online. At least thats what they said.
many games dont require you to Host servers in the traditional sence. Many games, (in particular Halo 2 which uses MS live) run on P2P, and dont require you to "Host" servers. If you are using a dedicated server, then forcing you to pay for it is pointless, when many people Host Servers off second computers. and if MS monopolizes Server Hosting, then it will make prices much higher then what we normal spend on Server Hosting.
[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Ptranhgiang
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? I highly doubt many PC gamers would do this. Why? Because online gaming has been free to them since the begining of time. Why pay now?
[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Ptranhgiang
You think PC gamer will pay 50$ just to play with console ?? They will if they want to play online games with me. Many of my friends don't have 360s, but would enjoy playing Shadowrun with me, so I think some people will pay to make this happen.
[QUOTE="Hewkii"]actually, one of the On the Spots had a Macbook Pro dual booting Vista Ultimate (I forget the episode, but I remember they were playing Texas hold em with the 360 controller).cobrax25
really? thats intresting.... then again I guess it makes sence, since now Macs use Intel CPU's they have almost identical architecture's to normal PCs. Â Â Â You can duel boot, but only with Vista Ultimate. The lower priced versions do not allow for virtualization.
[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon.foxhound_fox
That is the thing though... not every single 360 owner has a gaming PC and not every PC gamer has a 360. Paying to play games online is stupid, especially when you are paying 59.99 USD/69.99 CAD for a single game.
Supreme Commander is 29.99 USD/39.99 CAD and has free online.
Microsoft forcing PC owners to upgrade to Vista to play games is stupid as well. That is why I am buying a 360.
Games that play on XP are being phased out? All games being released after, what, 6 months will only be installable on Vista?
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon.AdobeArtist
That is the thing though... not every single 360 owner has a gaming PC and not every PC gamer has a 360. Paying to play games online is stupid, especially when you are paying 59.99 USD/69.99 CAD for a single game.
Supreme Commander is 29.99 USD/39.99 CAD and has free online.
Microsoft forcing PC owners to upgrade to Vista to play games is stupid as well. That is why I am buying a 360.
Games that play on XP are being phased out? All games being released after, what, 6 months will only be installable on Vista? No, of course not. especially if Vista continues to not sell. for the next few years, games will let you choose between playing DX10 on Vista, or with DX9 on XP. eventually XP will be phased out, but it will take a long time. games have only recently begone to not support Windows 98 (though most games can still be played on 98 even if they dont support it).
[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon.cobrax25
That is the thing though... not every single 360 owner has a gaming PC and not every PC gamer has a 360. Paying to play games online is stupid, especially when you are paying 59.99 USD/69.99 CAD for a single game.
Supreme Commander is 29.99 USD/39.99 CAD and has free online.
Microsoft forcing PC owners to upgrade to Vista to play games is stupid as well. That is why I am buying a 360.
Games that play on XP are being phased out? All games being released after, what, 6 months will only be installable on Vista? No, of course not. especially if Vista continues to not sell. for the next few years, games will let you choose between playing DX10 on Vista, or with DX9 on XP. eventually XP will be phased out, but it will take a long time. games have only recently begone to not support Windows 98 (though most games can still be played on 98 even if they dont support it).
I didn't think older OSs got phased out THAT quickly. I wonder what Fox meant by MS "forcing" people to upgrade to be able to play games.
Why would a PC gamer like my self want to pay money to play a FPS game? When its been free every since quake 1 came out. so why would any pc game start now? and if you thnk shadowrun is sweet, im sorry that game looks like crap. they ruined the shadowrun lore also. but yah MS is really tring ot destory the pc community by charging for nothing.
[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]funny...ps2 owners have been doing it for years :DAdrianWerner
Really? For what games? Final Fantasy XI, Nabuaga's Ambitions Online and Uncharted Waters Online MMO is different, it needs to be charged. you are using their servers to host 1k ppl on one server.
[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]funny...ps2 owners have been doing it for years :DAdrianWerner
Really? For what games? Final Fantasy XI, Nabuaga's Ambitions Online and Uncharted Waters Online MMO is different, it needs to be charged. you are using their servers to host 1k ppl on one server.
[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's free if you already have a Live account for your Xbox 360. Which I have but I unfortunately bought a Mac Book Pro a month ago so I don't think I'll be getting a Vista any soon.AdobeArtist
That is the thing though... not every single 360 owner has a gaming PC and not every PC gamer has a 360. Paying to play games online is stupid, especially when you are paying 59.99 USD/69.99 CAD for a single game.
Supreme Commander is 29.99 USD/39.99 CAD and has free online.
Microsoft forcing PC owners to upgrade to Vista to play games is stupid as well. That is why I am buying a 360.
Games that play on XP are being phased out? All games being released after, what, 6 months will only be installable on Vista? No, of course not. especially if Vista continues to not sell. for the next few years, games will let you choose between playing DX10 on Vista, or with DX9 on XP. eventually XP will be phased out, but it will take a long time. games have only recently begone to not support Windows 98 (though most games can still be played on 98 even if they dont support it).
I didn't think older OSs got phased out THAT quickly. I wonder what Fox meant by MS "forcing" people to upgrade to be able to play games. Phased out means something different with OS's then Consoles. Despite that Windows 98, is no longer "officially" supported, almost all programs made for XP will still work with 98. part of the reason that 98 is now outdated, has to do with the fact that after Windows 98 came a huge upgrade for Windows, known as Windows NT, which used a new file system called NTFS. While Windows NT was almost never used on PCs, since NT was a server OS. It did provide the backbone of all future Window's OS's. Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista, all are essentially upgraded versions of Windows NT. in fact if you search around you Windows Files, you will find tons of Folders labled "Windows NT"
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]funny...ps2 owners have been doing it for years :Dalfy13
Really? For what games? Final Fantasy XI, Nabuaga's Ambitions Online and Uncharted Waters Online MMO is different, it needs to be charged. you are using their servers to host 1k ppl on one server. its much more then 1000.... WOW servers average out to I think 10,000. I think everquest set the record with 36,000
[QUOTE="mr-sheep"]It's a great concept :P Being able to play cross-platform with PC people with my Xbox 360 is GREAT!!! PS3's Home is nothing compared to this :Pdhjohns
Kinda of cool as it expands the live community; not sure if this is better than Home. Will computer users pay for live? Maybe. We need to see them both implemented to make a call. It's nowhere near as good as HOME because almost no PC gamer will pay 50 bucks a year no matter what you might think. HOME is free and WILL be downloaded by almost every single PS3 user. Then add to the fact that Windows Vista sucks @ss right now for driver support. I own a 7900GTX and I can't even play games on VISTA!!! Whack!
[QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]funny...ps2 owners have been doing it for years :DAdrianWerner
Really? For what games? Final Fantasy XI, Nabuaga's Ambitions Online and Uncharted Waters Online Cool didn't know. How did it fair? Where there a lot of users?
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]funny...ps2 owners have been doing it for years :Dalfy13
Really? For what games? Final Fantasy XI, Nabuaga's Ambitions Online and Uncharted Waters Online MMO is different, it needs to be charged. you are using their servers to host 1k ppl on one server. of course, but so what? Dreamcast had Q3 crossplatform gaming. And "their servers"? THat's actualy the whole point, even in nonMMo Pc games you use decidated servers, which is why P2P that XBL uses is pathetic and completely unnaceptable for most pcgamers, it's would be like returning to 1993 all over again
[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]funny...ps2 owners have been doing it for years :Dcobrax25
Really? For what games? Final Fantasy XI, Nabuaga's Ambitions Online and Uncharted Waters Online MMO is different, it needs to be charged. you are using their servers to host 1k ppl on one server. its much more then 1000.... WOW servers average out to I think 10,000. I think everquest set the record with 36,000 opps i left the 0 out of my 1k, thanks for correction. but yah like he said. so charging is needed. but for FPS that a player host, yah i dont see ppl like Live Anwhere.
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="dhjohns"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]funny...ps2 owners have been doing it for years :Ddhjohns
Really? For what games? Final Fantasy XI, Nabuaga's Ambitions Online and Uncharted Waters Online Cool didn't know. How did it fair? Where there a lot of users? well, ps2 users made about 30% of servers population AFAIR
Live Anywhere is M$ way milking everybodyTamarind_Face
or its their way of giving pc gamers a great product for FREE, please read about ti before you criticize it. You can play online for free, you just have to pay if you want to get online achievements, which is not a big deal to most people.
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