Guerrilla Games: Alot of PS4, Killzone: Shadow Fall A NewStart for the Franchise

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#1 Blazerdt47
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Well at least Killzone is starting to show more color. :P

Guerrilla Games: Theres a lot More Left in the PS4, Killzone: Shadow Fall A New Start for the Franchise

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Getting (arguably) the most attention from Sony during their PlayStation 4unveiling back in February was Guerrilla Games Killzone: Shadow Fall. This PS4 launch title had a lot riding on its shoulders during that meeting, with Michiel Van Der Leeuw, Technical Director at Guerrilla Games, revealing to Edge that when it came to the on stage demo, they said no back-up videos.

Because of the fact that it was live, they were a little worried, with Michiel adding that they fixed three bugs in the last day that were very, very rare and only happened like once in a hundred playthroughs, but we knew that three of those bugs were in there. He continued: So theoretically, there was like a three in a hundred chance of a crash. I was very nervous seeing Stephen playing on stage and a lot of coders here in the Amsterdam office watching live-stream were also really, really nervous. But we made it through.

Guerrilla confirmed that the demo was running at 30fps, their target, and Van Der Leeuw went on to detail how theyre taking advantage of the PlayStation 4:

I think we were running on all the different cores for all the different systems, including AI and gameplay which weve never done before. Weve never utilised the CPU power weve had like this. We had about sixty guys running around in the demo which is far over what weve been able to do before thats about three or four times more.

Animation networking quality was much higher, I think its just basically been proven that the amount of time it takes AI programmers to get their code up and running in parallel is so much easier that it just enables us to do much more. Of course we were optimising towards 30fps, making sure we didnt drop a frame or that we dropped a few frames but not very many basically just making sure it ran smooth. And this is a launch title, weve just got new hardware and we werent using some of the hardware acceleration for stuff like audio at the time we did the demo, which we have now done. So I think theres a lot more left in the system.

Finally, Herman Hulst, Managing Director and Co-Founder at Guerrilla, addressed why the latest game in the Killzone franchise is called ShadowFall and not 4:

I think for context I like 1, 2 and 3, personally, but with Shadow Fall its a new platform, it is, in a way, a new start for the franchise with the new look and the new style of player character. I think the name now, as a Shadow Marshall operating in these shadows that are cast by this wall thats separating the two factions it just felt right to call it that.

Do you think youll be picking up Shadow Fall at PS4 launch? Would you have preferred they just call it Killzone 4? Let us know in the comments below.

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ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

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#3 Blazerdt47
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ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

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All about the gameplay bro.

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#4 aroxx_ab
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It all depends on what other games that be released for launch. While it look good, shooters is not my favorite genre.

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#5 ShoulderOfOrion
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

Blazerdt47

All about the gameplay bro.

looooooooooooool
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#6 Karpetburnz
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ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

KarateeeChop

Its a PS4 launch game, look at Resistance: Fall of man for a comparison.

So far its the best looking game on console to date.

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#7 Blazerdt47
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

ShoulderOfOrion

All about the gameplay bro.

looooooooooooool

Am I the only one that finds Killzone's gameplay enjoyable?

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#8 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

Blazerdt47

All about the gameplay bro.

And that demo showed it was KZ3.05 in terms of gameplay.

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#9 Karpetburnz
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[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

All about the gameplay bro.

Blazerdt47

looooooooooooool

Am I the only one that finds Killzone's gameplay enjoyable?

dude, this is system wars, even if Killzone had the best gameplay for any shooter, Lemmings will still hate it.

I personaly enjoy Killzone because its got a realistic heavy feeling to it, unlike 90% of garbage shooters out there that try to imitate CoD.

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#10 CRUSHER88
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Pretty short demo and a launch game. Not sure why people are rippin the game apart. Killzone 2 and 3 were enjoyable so I'll more than likely give this game a play through.
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#11 Karpetburnz
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

ChubbyGuy40

All about the gameplay bro.

And that demo showed it was KZ3.05 in terms of gameplay.

what was so bad about the gameplay? the only complaint i have is that it looks like it doesnt bring anything new to the gunplay apart from the slow motion thing, but then again, not many games out there do have big changes. look at Halo and CoD, theyre almost the same game copy and pasted over and over again.

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#12 PSP107
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[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

loooooooooooooolShoulderOfOrion

Am I the only one that finds Killzone's gameplay enjoyable?

dude, this is system wars, even if Killzone had the best gameplay for any shooter, Lemmings will still hate it.

I personaly enjoy Killzone because its got a realistic heavy feeling to it, unlike 90% of garbage shooters out there that try to imitate CoD.

I thought Killzone 3 and a update to Killzone made it like COD?
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

ChubbyGuy40

All about the gameplay bro.

And that demo showed it was KZ3.05 in terms of gameplay.

The game is basically CoD with a different skin

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#14 jun_aka_pekto
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I also like KZ2 and KZ3 gameplay. However, the bullet sponges in KZ2 can be a pain sometimes. If the Helghast go down, they should stay down, not get up and take pot shots at me while I'm reloading.

There could also be less dancing puppets. It's totally unrealistic.

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#15 ChubbyGuy40
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what was so bad about the gameplay? the only complaint i have is that it looks like it doesnt bring anything new to the gunplay.

but then again, not many games out there do have big changes. look at Halo and CoD, theyre almost the same game copy and pasted over and over again.Karpetburnz

It didn't change from the boring and slow pacing of KZ3. The gunplay is just too slow to be really satisfying.

That doesn't give them an excuse for keeping it.

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Do you think youll be picking up Shadow Fall at PS4 launch? Would you have preferred they just call it Killzone 4? Let us know in the comments below.

Blazerdt47

Yup. I'll be picking it up. To me, it is KZ4. Sounds less convoluted that way.

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#17 DarkLink77
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Yawn, more Killzone. I'll pass.

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#18 AAllxxjjnn
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Pretty graphics won't save an average campaign, which going by the previous entries, I'm not expecting anything else.
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#19 epicgameplayer
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Yawn, more Killzone. I'll pass.

DarkLink77
LOL says you the delusional xbot who gets excitied for all the yearly Gears/Halo rehashes Also, the fact you took the time to not only clink into a thread about Killzone but post about it, says other wise. Killlzone is definitely on your mind
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#20 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yawn, more Killzone. I'll pass.

epicgameplayer
LOL says you the delusional xbot who gets excitied for all the yearly Gears/Halo rehashes Also, the fact you took the time to not only clink into a thread about Killzone but post about it, says other wise. Killlzone is definitely on your mind

Gears and Halo are way more unique than Killzone which is an utterly generic Call of Duty clone but with 'cinematic' input lag thrown on top.
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

ShoulderOfOrion

All about the gameplay bro.

looooooooooooool

Need more O's Dude. Need more O's.
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#22 GhettoBlastin92
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Killzone 2 was alright. I actually like the heavy feel and the chaotic mp was fun for awhile. KZ3 was just disappointing.
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#23 Cranler
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Blazerdt47

The soldier looks like hes ready to take it from behind.

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#24 ChubbyGuy40
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The soldier looks like hes ready to take it from behind.

Cranler

His body does look ready. Perhaps it's symbolism for the cows who will actually buy a console at launch.

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#25 OneInchMan99
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[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yawn, more Killzone. I'll pass.

AAllxxjjnn

LOL says you the delusional xbot who gets excitied for all the yearly Gears/Halo rehashes Also, the fact you took the time to not only clink into a thread about Killzone but post about it, says other wise. Killlzone is definitely on your mind

Gears and Halo are way more unique than Killzone which is an utterly generic Call of Duty clone but with 'cinematic' input lag thrown on top.

You think Killzone feels like COD........Ok dude.LOL

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#26 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

All about the gameplay bro.

Blazerdt47

looooooooooooool

Am I the only one that finds Killzone's gameplay enjoyable?

No. I like the gameplay a lot. The story is boring though. Hope that changes with Shadow Fall.

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#27 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="Cranler"]

The soldier looks like hes ready to take it from behind.

ChubbyGuy40

His body does look ready. Perhaps it's symbolism for the cows who will actually buy a console at launch.

PS4 will have great games on launch so there is a reason to buy.

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#28 Razor_defiace
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The game is basically CoD with a different skin

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#29 V3rciS
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ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

KarateeeChop

lol based on the  pre alpha demo beta unfinished version?

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#30 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

V3rciS

lol based on the pre alpha demo beta unfinished version?

All he does is troll Sony gamers on here.

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#31 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

StrongBlackVine

lol based on the pre alpha demo beta unfinished version?

All he does is troll Sony gamers on here.

I say shame... shame on people like this! A really bad person.... *sigh*

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#32 Malta_1980
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For me its gonna be PS4 + KZ4 + Driveclub + Watchdogs should all games be available at launch !!

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#33 funsohng
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Hopefully by new start, they mean it will have a good gameplay.
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#34 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

All about the gameplay bro.

Blazerdt47

looooooooooooool

Am I the only one that finds Killzone's gameplay enjoyable?

Pretty much.
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#35 Heil68
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Awwwww yeahhhhhh, Good to hear. Nothing brings on the butthurt from lems and hermits alike then good ol' KZ. Thank you GG and of course, as always, thank you Sony.
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#36 RR360DD
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Hopefully the 'new start' mean theyre actually creating a good game this time
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#37 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] loooooooooooooolStrongBlackVine

Am I the only one that finds Killzone's gameplay enjoyable?

No. I like the gameplay a lot. The story is boring though. Hope that changes with Shadow Fall.

I liked the gameplay too, people confuse gameplay with level design. The gameplay's really good, the feel was nailed by 3 as it felt really meaty with probably my favourite gunplay this gen. Level design is pretty poor though, linear, bland, lacked deviation and everything felt oddly flat to me, dunno why i noticed that but hey. New hardware might hopefully open up the levels a bit more, the story seems a lot better and the cold war esque setting interests me. New main character is cooler than the previous ones and the weapons look better. Shame some have written off the level design already, conference reveal trailers always use the most controlled gameplay and the biggest set pieces for so i think there's still time for change.
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#38 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yawn, more Killzone. I'll pass.

epicgameplayer
LOL says you the delusional xbot who gets excitied for all the yearly Gears/Halo rehashes Also, the fact you took the time to not only clink into a thread about Killzone but post about it, says other wise. Killlzone is definitely on your mind

Which is why I didn't buy Gears Judgment and dislike Halo 4, and will not be buying another. Right.
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#39 Capitan_Kid
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ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

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To a blind moron.
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#40 megaspiderweb09
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The FPS genre has become a borefest to be honest and everyone is suffering from the fatigue of playing Duck Hunt in 2013, that said i have looked at Killzone Shadowfall extensively and i am interested in the new take on the series, just maybe not excited as i should be

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#41 KillzoneSnake
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

Capitan_Kid

To a blind moron.

Maybe he has brain damage from whatever horrible things he plays so he cant tell the difference.

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Killzone 2 was alright. I actually like the heavy feel and the chaotic mp was fun for awhile. KZ3 was just disappointing.GhettoBlastin92
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#43 Ly_the_Fairy
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A new start? You mean there'll be even more of them?

Nobody is asking for this :(

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#44 SaltyMeatballs
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I'll probably get Watch Dogs and Infamous first, maybe Killzone if the single player turns out good.
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#45 razu2444
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ps4? but kzsf looks like a ps3 game. :(

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Keep saying that to yourself
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#46 Gue1
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it looks different but it feels and plays the same... Or even worse judging by that crappy cinematic at the end of the demo.

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#47 casharmy
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[QUOTE="epicgameplayer"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yawn, more Killzone. I'll pass.

AAllxxjjnn

LOL says you the delusional xbot who gets excitied for all the yearly Gears/Halo rehashes Also, the fact you took the time to not only clink into a thread about Killzone but post about it, says other wise. Killlzone is definitely on your mind

Gears and Halo are way more unique than Killzone which is an utterly generic Call of Duty clone but with 'cinematic' input lag thrown on top.

How is Killzone a Call of duty clone when killzone came out before Call of Duty?  

give yourself a hand for making such a stupid comment trying to sound hip with the "call of duty clone" brian dead reply.

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="epicgameplayer"] LOL says you the delusional xbot who gets excitied for all the yearly Gears/Halo rehashes Also, the fact you took the time to not only clink into a thread about Killzone but post about it, says other wise. Killlzone is definitely on your mindcasharmy

Gears and Halo are way more unique than Killzone which is an utterly generic Call of Duty clone but with 'cinematic' input lag thrown on top.

How is Killzone a Call of duty clone when killzone came out before Call of Duty?  

give yourself a hand for making such a stupid comment trying to sound hip with the "call of duty clone" brian dead reply.

Call of Duty came out before Killzone, dude.
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#49 casharmy
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Hopefully the 'new start' mean theyre actually creating a good game this timeRR360DD
KZ2 gameplay was really good...it was the dialogue and actors that needed to be replaced.

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#50 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Gears and Halo are way more unique than Killzone which is an utterly generic Call of Duty clone but with 'cinematic' input lag thrown on top.DarkLink77

How is Killzone a Call of duty clone when killzone came out before Call of Duty?  

give yourself a hand for making such a stupid comment trying to sound hip with the "call of duty clone" brian dead reply.

Call of Duty came out before Killzone, dude.

when did call of duty come out?  I could be wrong since I have never played or bought a Call of duty game but I thought call of duty came out around 2005