GunCon3: Better for FPS games than Wiimote/Nunchuck...

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/819/819953p1.html

It has the left analog stick for move/strafe, the right analog stick for look/turning, and the gun pointer for free aiming.

This means you can turn and look around independently of where you actually shoot, so it will be just as smooth as a traditional control pad for turning (without the delay you get with the Wiimote when you combine aiming and turning), then you also have the absolute speed and accuracy of an arcade gun for the actual shooting. It probably even has a decent rumble feature built in, I would expect. It also obviously works perfectly as a standard light-gun (if it's light based or whatever).

This is better than the Wii setup clearly (it offers EVERYTHING the Wii does, plus and extra analog stick and more buttons too),and even a mouse and keyboard in my opinion.

I have often wished the Wiimote/Nunchuck had an extra analog stick, because then it would be perfect for FPS games (you wouldn't have to combine aiming and turning into one less than perfect setup), but as it happens someone else gets there first.

As long as the peripheral is up to scratch, and there is no reason to think it isn't, then I think the Wii has been one-upped for FPS controls. The only real negative is that it doesn't come with a machine so it's gonna cost a bit and it won't be as widely supported as the Wiimote is obviously going to be...

I agree.

actually even guncon2/1 is better than wiimote when it comes to shooters

NO its not. its dumb looking beyond belief. looks uncomfortable as heck.

THe Wiimote and nunchuck are awesome, fluid, fast, accurate, and smooth.
jg4xchamp

You are just being completely biased.

You hold one side just like a gun, so that is perfectly comfortable. You hold the other like a normal joypad, so that too will be perfectly comfortable. It is just like using the Wiimotes Zapper attachment, except it has the trigger on the proper hand, two analog sticks and more buttons.

It should also be perfectly fluid, fast, accurate and smooth, since it is the 3rd itteration of the GunCon and it is made by an arcade gun game specialist company.

Fanboyism is not healthy...

I really really REALLY hate that colour.thejakel11225

it's intentional (to make it easy for kids to convince their parents to purchase the game without worrying about the shooting aspect)

I really really REALLY hate that colour.thejakel11225

100% agree. They could have at least seperated the button colours or something...

[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]I really really REALLY hate that colour.Mystery_Writer

it's intentional (to make it easy for kids to convince their parents to purchase the game without worrying about the shooting aspect)

Agreed, but they could have picked a better colour, or at least seperated the colours of the buttons or something...

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]I really really REALLY hate that colour.freeload

it's intentional (to make it easy for kids to convince their parents to purchase the game without worrying about the shooting aspect)

Agreed, but they could have picked a better colour, or at least seperated the colours of the buttons or something...

That may even just be a kind of prototype model, or early one colour cast. Maybe the final gun will look a little less cheap. I hope so anyway...

I really really REALLY hate that colour.thejakel11225

Replica gun laws. You'd get laughed at if you tried to hold up a bank with that :lol:

If there wasn't so much gun crime, it wouldn't have to be that colour.

[QUOTE="thejakel11225"]I really really REALLY hate that colour.SgtWhiskeyjack

Replica gun laws. You'd get laughed at if you tried to hold up a bank with that :lol:

If there wasn't so much gun crime, it wouldn't have to be that colour.

Too true, but even the Wiimotes Zapper attachment looks a bit prettier than that. :o

Yes and no..

As a LIGHT GUN (Aiming), yes.. But I'd much rather the Wiimote/Nunchuk combo for shooters in general...

But that's just my opinion...kingsy_the_one

Any particular reason why you assume this? Considering the Guncon3 does everything the Wiimote does but also has an extra analog stick and more buttons that are more easily accessible at the same time.

It is basically the same as using the Nunchuck's analogstick as the left analoge stick on the GunCon3 and the Wiimote as the gun pointer, butthe GunCon3also has the extra analog stick, and it would probably also be more comfortable to hold too, since it is an actualgun handle shape rather than an awkwardremote shape.

I can't see any reason why the Wiimote/Nunchuck would be a better option than the GunCon3, cept maybe the fact that the Nunchuck is not attached so your hands can be held apart or something...

[QUOTE="kingsy_the_one"]Yes and no..

As a LIGHT GUN (Aiming), yes.. But I'd much rather the Wiimote/Nunchuk combo for shooters in general...

But that's just my opinion...freeload

Any particular reason why you assume this? Considering the Guncon3 does everything the Wiimote does but also has an extra analog stick and more buttons that are easily accessable at the same time. It is basically the same as using the Nunchuck stick as the left analoge stick and the Wiimote as the gun pointer, but it also has the extra analog stick, and it would probably be more comfortable to hold to, since it is a gun shape rather than a remote shape...

At the very very least, it's clearly superior to this:

Although admitedly the Wii Zapper is at least prettier looking...

That just looked fugly.

Does this thing relaod as in just like a shot gun, you pump it once to reload just like the Wiimote? To fire a rocket launcher do you raise it to your shoulder, pull up the scope, and let the rocket loose?

I rest my case...

[QUOTE="freeload"]

[QUOTE="kingsy_the_one"]Yes and no..

As a LIGHT GUN (Aiming), yes.. But I'd much rather the Wiimote/Nunchuk combo for shooters in general...

But that's just my opinion...kingsy_the_one

Any particular reason why you assume this? Considering the Guncon3 does everything the Wiimote does but also has an extra analog stick and more buttons that are easily accessable at the same time. It is basically the same as using the Nunchuck stick as the left analoge stick and the Wiimote as the gun pointer, but it also has the extra analog stick, and it would probably be more comfortable to hold to, since it is a gun shape rather than a remote shape...

Any difference between holding a Wiimote and pointing it to shoot and a GunCon and pointing it to shoot?

Am I missing something here?

They are both pointers that you hold kind of like a gun and point at the screen and pull a trigger to fire...

That just looked fugly.

Does this thing relaod as in just like a shot gun, you pump it once to reload just like the Wiimote? To fire a rocket launcher do you raise it to your shoulder, pull up the scope, and let the rocket loose?

I rest my case...

-CheeseEater-

You make somegood points. I would still presonally rather have easy aiming and turning in an FPS game though, than some gimicks for reloading and shooting, although they are cool gimicks to be sure.

I suppose if the Nunchucks motion sensors are good enough that you could use them as a secondary analog stick, so you look by pointing/aiming the body of the Nunchuck (like a virtual analog stick) then I may prefere that over the GunCon3. Only if it feels right on the Nunchuck though. Then you could use the Nunchuck's analog stick for moving/strafing, the Nunchuck's tilt sensors for looking/turning and the Wiimote for free aiming around the screen (like a normal gun game).

That would be acceptable imo...

[QUOTE="-CheeseEater-"]

That just looked fugly.

Does this thing relaod as in just like a shot gun, you pump it once to reload just like the Wiimote? To fire a rocket launcher do you raise it to your shoulder, pull up the scope, and let the rocket loose?

I rest my case...

freeload

You make somegood points. I would still presonally rather have easy aiming and turning in an FPS game though, than some gimicks for reloading and shooting, although they are cool gimicks to be sure.

I suppose if the Nunchucks motion sensors are good enough that you could use them as a secondary analog stick, so you look by pointing/aiming the body of the Nunchuck (like a virtual analog stick) then I may prefere that over the GunCon3. Only if it feels right on the Nunchuck though. Then you could use the Nunchuck's analog stick for moving/strafing, the Nunchuck's tilt sensors for looking/turning and the Wiimote for free aiming around the screen (like a normal gun game).

That would be acceptable imo...

Also, when you use it in rocket launcher mode I think you have to use the analog stick to actually aim, since the pointer is pointing backwards, which isn't as good as just using the pointerto aim normally. So it's not perfect by any means...

I like the GunCon3 myself, I hope they do use it for more than just Time Crisis 4.Gamer46

Me too...

[QUOTE="kingsy_the_one"][QUOTE="freeload"]

[QUOTE="kingsy_the_one"]Yes and no..

As a LIGHT GUN (Aiming), yes.. But I'd much rather the Wiimote/Nunchuk combo for shooters in general...

But that's just my opinion...freeload

Any particular reason why you assume this? Considering the Guncon3 does everything the Wiimote does but also has an extra analog stick and more buttons that are easily accessable at the same time. It is basically the same as using the Nunchuck stick as the left analoge stick and the Wiimote as the gun pointer, but it also has the extra analog stick, and it would probably be more comfortable to hold to, since it is a gun shape rather than a remote shape...

Any difference between holding a Wiimote and pointing it to shoot and a GunCon and pointing it to shoot?

Am I missing something here?

They are both pointers that you hold kind of like a gun and point at the screen and pull a trigger to fire...

[QUOTE="freeload"][QUOTE="kingsy_the_one"][QUOTE="freeload"]

[QUOTE="kingsy_the_one"]Yes and no..

As a LIGHT GUN (Aiming), yes.. But I'd much rather the Wiimote/Nunchuk combo for shooters in general...

But that's just my opinion...kingsy_the_one

Any particular reason why you assume this? Considering the Guncon3 does everything the Wiimote does but also has an extra analog stick and more buttons that are easily accessable at the same time. It is basically the same as using the Nunchuck stick as the left analoge stick and the Wiimote as the gun pointer, but it also has the extra analog stick, and it would probably be more comfortable to hold to, since it is a gun shape rather than a remote shape...

Any difference between holding a Wiimote and pointing it to shoot and a GunCon and pointing it to shoot?

Am I missing something here?

They are both pointers that you hold kind of like a gun and point at the screen and pull a trigger to fire...

/discussion

You have a nice day too. :)

you guys do realize that the wiimote is extremely inferrior in precision compared to gunconX when it comes to light gun games?

:lol:

Keep on dreaming.

you guys do realize that the wiimote is extremely inferrior in precision compared to gunconX when it comes to light gun games?

Mystery_Writer

not when the wii remote has a targeting recticall on screen at all times. then you can base your movement of of that instead of constantly havign to hold out the gun and make sure then aiming is right yourself.

Is itpossible to detach the front piece from the gun? I think it would work better and be more comfortable if that was the case.

:lol:

Keep on dreaming.

OGTiago

What should I dream about?

Is itpossible to detach the front piece from the gun? I think it would work better and be more comfortable if that was the case.

SillyManimal

I don't know but I agree that it would be a cool option. It would also be cool if the GunCon3 had a proper kickback motion like the original Time Crisis and Point Blank gun did, but I don't think it has that either...

[QUOTE="SillyManimal"]

Is itpossible to detach the front piece from the gun? I think it would work better and be more comfortable if that was the case.

freeload

I don't know but I agree that it would be a cool option. It would also be cool if the GunCon3 had a proper kickback motion like the original Time Crisis and Point Blank gun did, but I don't think it has that either...

The console guns had kickback? I always liked having kickback when playing time crisis in the arcades.

[QUOTE="freeload"][QUOTE="SillyManimal"]

Is itpossible to detach the front piece from the gun? I think it would work better and be more comfortable if that was the case.

laughingman42

I don't know but I agree that it would be a cool option. It would also be cool if the GunCon3 had a proper kickback motion like the original Time Crisis and Point Blank gun did, but I don't think it has that either...

The console guns had kickback? I always liked having kickback when playing time crisis in the arcades.

I meant the ones in the acrcade, although I think the original GunCondid actually have kickback, although I could be wrong...

NO its not. its dumb looking beyond belief. looks uncomfortable as heck.

THe Wiimote and nunchuck are awesome, fluid, fast, accurate, and smooth.
jg4xchamp

Same can be said about some gamer pointing the wiichuck around, dumb as hell if you ask me.

At least this looks like a gun. Also I watched a demo of this gun and it looked nice......the game however is another story.

Well if it comes in another color (blue or black) yeah cool!

Looks pretty tacky I've got to say.

May or may not work for them, dont really care. At all.

The nun-chuck could do free look better with the tilt function, and the Wii-mote also can do full control over your weapon (hopefully 1:1 will be done soon).