Gunpei Yokoi >>>>>> Shigeru Miyamoto

You heard me right, he was the real man behind Nintendo's success, the forgotten man.

OK, so what has he done, well co-creator of Mario and Donkey Kong, creator of Kid Icarus and Metroid. The man who came up with Game & Watch which Nintendo built its foundation upon, and most importantly he came up with the Gameboy.

Nintendo's current ideology of using technology differenly stem from his views, read the Lateral Thinking of Withered Technology.

Why is he forgotten, because he came up with the Virtual Boy and became an outcast.

Why did I write this thread because another thread with Miyamoto in it got me thinking, he IS overrated, much like Kojima, but later on that.

Anyway Fight Sheep. :evil:

Miyamoto's my favorite developer,but I respect your opinion. 

Gunpei Yokoi was awesome. He needs more respect.

However, he did make the Virtual Boy... >__>

Gunpei Yokoi was awesome. He needs more respect.

However, he did make the Virtual Boy... >__>

Moon_of_Majora

I agree and disagree with the TC. After all, in my opinion, Metroid>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zelda, but Mario games are my favourite games ever.

Agreed, he is awesome, but Miyamoto made Zelda.

Agreed, he is awesome, but Miyamoto made Zelda.

MrDziekuje

Word.

Of course I respect Gunpei Yokoi. He deserves more respect. ;) 

I'd say they were on par with each other. Yokoi came up wit hthe Game Boy, Miyamoto has had influence on every Nintendo console controller since the SNES. Yokoi Created Metroid. Miyamoto, Zelda. Still, He's definately underrated, and deserves more credit that he gets. One can only wonder what game he would have made if he was still around...Truewiseblade

As for the controllers bit, just to add Gunpei basically created the D-Pad which was featured on the Game & Watch series which had a Nintendo DS Lite style design to them.

But it was thanks to Miyamoto that Gunpei got where he was. If Miyamoto hadn't made the NES, Gunpei wouldn't have made the Gameboy. But I think they are on the same level. It's sad what happened to him. His son gave a speech after he died at the release of the DS.fatzombiepigeon

Game & Watch came before the NES and gave Nintendo the financial ability as well as the success to fully enter the home console market. The Game & Watch was a huge seller. 

I think it's less a case of Miyamoto being overrated, and one of Gunpei Yokoi being incredibly underrated. Miyamoto diserves his respect but I think Gunpei diserves just as much if not more for all of those original and incredibly lasting ideas.Suyomizzle_

Gunpei Yokoi is Dead.

Don't disrespect his memory by trying to involve him in a petty popularity contest on System Wars.  Please.

Gunpei Yokoi is Dead.

Don't disrespect his memory by trying to involve him in a petty popularity contest on System Wars. Please.

Iyethar

We all die in the end and if anything I'm telling people how good he was at Videogames, how many people know him as one of the greatest Videogame pioneers? 

Nobody forgot Gunpei Yoko

Miyamoto himself said that Gunpei is his one and only sensei..

Anyway he is dead now.. Dont beat a dead horse..  

After Miyamoto dies nobody in the gaming industry will remember him anyway.. so why bother with this thread..

its all about Peter moore, phil harrison and kutaragi 

After Miyamoto dies nobody in the gaming industry will remember him anyway.. so why bother with this thread..

 

its all about Peter moore, phil harrison and kutaragi

farnham

To show that maybe Miyamoto is maybe, just maybe a bit overrated. As for the death part it proves my point even more, you hold these figures in such high regard but what comes of them, they become forgotten, so kids don't go over the top. 

I enjoy how overlooked figures earn more respect once their dead... Gunpei created hardware, and games, like many others in this industry; however, Miyamoto brought a breath of creative life into the industry. Nothing can be compared to the characters Miyamoto has developed, and Metroid is arguably the weakest of Nintendo's bigger franchises. In essence, Metroid is a standard sci-fi IP (such as StarCraft, or Halo)... now compare that to Mario's universe. The world of Mario is a creative land with colorful, recognizable characters. The world of Metroid is a universe with a spacesuit-wearing bounty hunter who kill space pirates, and finds aliens. Which is more creative? Which has generated more successful titles? Which is the mascot for Nintendo? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the Metroid franchise, but it can hardly be compared to the universe which Miyamoto flourished and built.project343

To tell you the truth the better gameplay has almost always been Metroid over Mario, if you go back and play the old games the Metroid ones have far more depth to them than Mario games. But pick up and play value is always more popular. 

You heard me right, he was the real man behind Nintendo's success, the forgotten man.

OK, so what has he done, well co-creator of Mario and Donkey Kong, creator of Kid Icarus and Metroid. The man who came up with Game & Watch which Nintendo built its foundation upon, and most importantly he came up with the Gameboy.

Nintendo's current ideology of using technology differenly stem from his views, read the Lateral Thinking of Withered Technology.

Why is he forgotten, because he came up with the Virtual Boy and became an outcast.

Why did I write this thread because another thread with Miyamoto in it got me thinking, he IS overrated, much like Kojima, but later on that.

Anyway Fight Sheep. :evil:

 

Hoobinator

To be honest, I hold both in equal regard, especially when they were able to work together. Its great that someone is acknowledging a genius like Yokoi was, and its a shame he died so young as he would no doubt still be enjoying the same success as Miyamoto if he were still around. Although I wouldnt call Miyamoto overrated in the least. The success of the Game Boy and Yokoi's refusal to adopt colour screen led to the GB having a longer battery life and it shows how technology can hinder the industry as well as help it. Its the same story with the DS and PSP - it paralells the Game Boy vs. Game Gear battle of the 80's and 90's in many ways, continuing Yokoi's legacy. He is the reason Nintendo dominate the handheld market.

[QUOTE="farnham"]

After Miyamoto dies nobody in the gaming industry will remember him anyway.. so why bother with this thread..

 

its all about Peter moore, phil harrison and kutaragi

Hoobinator

To show that maybe Miyamoto is maybe, just maybe a bit overrated. As for the death part it proves my point even more, you hold these figures in such high regard but what comes of them, they become forgotten, so kids don't go over the top.

miyamoto never made anything.. just crappy kiddie games like mario bros., mario 64 or zelda 64.. they sold nothing and are all ****

Chris Hecker is the one to praise.. he is creating spore and thinks that the Wii is two gamecubes ductaped together.. thats a real hero man!

Yokoi was a great man,and he did create the Game Boy and Metroid,after all,but no developer comes close to Miyamoto.Miyamoto is the greatest game designer period.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="farnham"]

After Miyamoto dies nobody in the gaming industry will remember him anyway.. so why bother with this thread..

 

its all about Peter moore, phil harrison and kutaragi

farnham

To show that maybe Miyamoto is maybe, just maybe a bit overrated. As for the death part it proves my point even more, you hold these figures in such high regard but what comes of them, they become forgotten, so kids don't go over the top.

miyamoto never made anything.. just crappy kiddie games like mario bros., mario 64 or zelda 64.. they sold nothing and are all ****

Chris Hecker is the one to praise.. he is creating spore and thinks that the Wii is two gamecubes ductaped together.. thats a real hero man!

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="farnham"]

After Miyamoto dies nobody in the gaming industry will remember him anyway.. so why bother with this thread..

 

its all about Peter moore, phil harrison and kutaragi

farnham

To show that maybe Miyamoto is maybe, just maybe a bit overrated. As for the death part it proves my point even more, you hold these figures in such high regard but what comes of them, they become forgotten, so kids don't go over the top.

miyamoto never made anything.. just crappy kiddie games like mario bros., mario 64 or zelda 64.. they sold nothing and are all ****

Chris Hecker is the one to praise.. he is creating spore and thinks that the Wii is two gamecubes ductaped together.. thats a real hero man!

What's Miyamoto's best work in the last 5 years?

Yokoi was a great man,and he did create the Game Boy and Metroid,after all,but no developer comes close to Miyamoto.Miyamoto is the greatest game designer period.

VGobbsesser

he didnt create mario or zelda or any other of miyamoto's amazing franchises/characters.

who cares if he invented the gameboy? all it really was, was a black and white screened handheld NES. a pretty logical step really. dont care much for DK or kid icarus either. metroids ok.

b xx 

[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="farnham"]

After Miyamoto dies nobody in the gaming industry will remember him anyway.. so why bother with this thread..

 

its all about Peter moore, phil harrison and kutaragi

Hoobinator

To show that maybe Miyamoto is maybe, just maybe a bit overrated. As for the death part it proves my point even more, you hold these figures in such high regard but what comes of them, they become forgotten, so kids don't go over the top.

miyamoto never made anything.. just crappy kiddie games like mario bros., mario 64 or zelda 64.. they sold nothing and are all ****

Chris Hecker is the one to praise.. he is creating spore and thinks that the Wii is two gamecubes ductaped together.. thats a real hero man!

What's Miyamoto's best work in the last 5 years?

[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="farnham"]

After Miyamoto dies nobody in the gaming industry will remember him anyway.. so why bother with this thread..

 

its all about Peter moore, phil harrison and kutaragi

coreygames

To show that maybe Miyamoto is maybe, just maybe a bit overrated. As for the death part it proves my point even more, you hold these figures in such high regard but what comes of them, they become forgotten, so kids don't go over the top.

miyamoto never made anything.. just crappy kiddie games like mario bros., mario 64 or zelda 64.. they sold nothing and are all ****

Chris Hecker is the one to praise.. he is creating spore and thinks that the Wii is two gamecubes ductaped together.. thats a real hero man!

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto. 

Gunpei Yokoi was awesome. He needs more respect.

However, he did make the Virtual Boy... >__>

Moon_of_Majora

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto.

lord_mordain

That's kind of my point, Miyamoto didn't single handedly come along and save gaming and everything in this thread proves it. 

If it weren't for Miyamoto, then there wouldn't be gaming.BK-Sleeper

[QUOTE="lord_mordain"]

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto.

Hoobinator

That's kind of my point, Miyamoto didn't single handedly come along and save gaming and everything in this thread proves it.

Well, Donkey Kong says otherwise.

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto.

lord_mordain

To use a historical analogy, I view it this way: Miyamoto = Thomas Jefferson Yokoi = James Madison Both were essential to the creation of something great (Nintendo or the United States), one laid the groundwork what would come (Madion essentially wrote the Constitution, Yokoi guided Nintendo to entering the video game market), though the works of another would go on to be remembered more and, as a result, the other gets idolized more. NOTE: I am not trying to place Nintendo on the same level as the worlds oldest democracy and foremost economic power. Just a historical parallel I found interesting.Hoffgod

Sorry for being ridiculously off topic here, but im inclined to disagree with you regarding the worlds oldest democracy being the United States. I dont even know where to begin. Not only was it not a proper democratic state until the Civil Rights Movement, but its certainly one of the LAST democracies established as well.

And if the Native Americans had not been exterminated and had lived to this day it is highly likely that the five nations of the Iroquois Confederacy would be the longest surviving. As for the constitution, the main concept of the US was based on and directly taken from the Iroquois.

If you want an interesting historical paralell, I could give you a negative one regarding the US being compared with Germany, but I wont utter a word of it as im sure it would get me into a lot of bother with Americans on this site. I study History in case you were wondering ;)

I think its this damn forum, its made me so argumentative :(

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="lord_mordain"]

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto.

lord_mordain

That's kind of my point, Miyamoto didn't single handedly come along and save gaming and everything in this thread proves it.

Well, Donkey Kong says otherwise.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="lord_mordain"]

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto.

lord_mordain

That's kind of my point, Miyamoto didn't single handedly come along and save gaming and everything in this thread proves it.

Well, Donkey Kong says otherwise.

Donkey Kong's a dirty ape, don't listen to him. 

[QUOTE="lord_mordain"]

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto.

rpg9000owner

No they were not.  Radar Scope's failure meant that there were thousands of unsold machines in Nintendo's warehouse.  Nintendo of America was on the brink of financial disaster because of this, so Donkey Kong would make or break them.  Don't call others misinformed ever again.

[QUOTE="rpg9000owner"][QUOTE="lord_mordain"]

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto.

-The-G-Man-

No they were not. Radar Scope's failure meant that there were thousands of unsold machines in Nintendo's warehouse. Nintendo of America was on the brink of financial disaster because of this, so Donkey Kong would make or break them. Don't call others misinformed ever again.

Thank you so very very much. 

[QUOTE="rpg9000owner"][QUOTE="lord_mordain"]

Well, you can think however you want, but few will agree.

Miyamoto saved Nintendo.

Nintendo saved video games.

No matter what kind of fanboy you are, you owe Miyamoto.

-The-G-Man-

No they were not. Radar Scope's failure meant that there were thousands of unsold machines in Nintendo's warehouse. Nintendo of America was on the brink of financial disaster because of this, so Donkey Kong would make or break them. Don't call others misinformed ever again.