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Bu bu only Sony has an online sericve that is hackable? 63%
And tha'ts why I gladly pay more for xbl, dat peace of mind 37%

Hackers Sold Counterfeit Xbox One After Infiltrating Microsoft

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The team is accused of hacking into Microsoft's employee network in August 2012, spending "hundreds of hours" searching for files containing intellectual property on the Xbox One, which at the time had not been revealed to the public or confirmed by Microsoft.

Assembly instructions, software designs, and source code for the next-gen system were found and stolen, which Leroux then used to build a counterfeit version of the system.

That console was then sold onto another unnamed person, who at the time was based in Mahe, Republic of Seychelles. The system was eventually sold on eBay, reportedly for about $20,100.

Then, in September 2013, just a few weeks ahead of the Xbox One launch, two unnamed individuals used Microsoft employee data to break into the company's Redmond campus to steal three beta versions of the Xbox One. The hackers are accused of providing the data to the burglars.

The cost of damages associated with the hacking ring is believed to total more than $100 million in intellectual property and data.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/hackers-sold-counterfeit-xbox-one-after-infiltrati/1100-6422664/

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#1  Edited By lostrib
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That's pretty fucked up

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#2 ScarTM
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Still stronger than the original XBOX One I bet.


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#3 dommeus
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M$ are doomed?

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#4 clyde46
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This is beyond PSN or XBL account hacking. Petty fanboying aside, if this is the lengths people will go to get the scope or whatever on the latest gear then we are all in trouble.

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But does it have the Cloud?

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#7 kinectthedots
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Personally I hate all these hackers, why the hell do you go out to hack video game companies? I just don't get the thrill, but these guys actually stole design code to the xbox one and created counterfeit systems, I haven't heard of anyone going that far before I wonder if they actually work.

If these guys have the code to be able to build entire systems its likely they can also hack every level of the xbox one infrastructure

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I wonder if that system works proper? Eh.

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#9  Edited By kinectthedots
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@FastRobby said:

2 years ago...

This report was published today dumbass

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#10 JohnF111
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Wasn't there source code leaked a while back? Possibly from this group, never good to hear about this level of infiltration in any case, this is about as deep as you can go when you have access to source code.

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@kinectthedots said:

@FastRobby said:

2 years ago...

This report was published today dumbass

lol

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#12 B4X
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"Stole employees data, to infiltrate Redmond Offices."

Someone got a timeout. Shouldn't give the keys to your car to your drunk buddy.

These guys are looking at 5 years 250k fines. Now that's true dedication to gaming.

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#13  Edited By blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Sometimes I wonder if people know what they are reading when they start foaming in excitement. What does this have to do with XBL?

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@blue_hazy_basic: Slow day today I guess.

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I remember reading about someone trying to sell a dev kit long time ago but not sure what system it was, gonna google it soon. Anyway, this really has nothing to do with Xbox Live. They stole code for a couple of games and employee info. It's not like PSN where hackers stole from far away. These guys actually had to go to break in their company property.

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#16 B4X
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@gago-gago said:

I remember reading about someone trying to sell a dev kit long time ago but not sure what system it was, gonna google it soon. Anyway, this really has nothing to do with Xbox Live. They stole code for a couple of games and employee info. It's not like PSN where hackers stole from far away. These guys actually had to go to break in their company property.

Australian guy. He was part of this. The Australian GOV. took care of him. American Attorney General was going extradite him. Came to an agreement to allow them to take care of their own.

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#17  Edited By B4X
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The indictment also noted that an Australian citizen has been charged under Australian law for their alleged role in the conspiracy. This is in reference to Dan "SuperDaE" Henry, who attempted to sell a leaked Xbox One kit - then called Durango - on eBay. He was raided by the FBI for his role in that in February 2013, but Microsoft later distanced itself from the raid."The American economy is driven by innovation. But American innovation is only valuable when it can be protected," said assistant attorney general Leslie R. Caldwell of the Justice Department's Criminal Division. "Today's guilty pleas show that we will protect America's intellectual property from hackers, whether they hack from here or from abroad.""Electronic breaking and entering of computer networks and the digital looting of identities and intellectual property have become much too common," said US attorney Charles M. Oberly III of the District of Delaware. "These are not harmless crimes, and those who commit them should not believe they are safely beyond our reach."

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#19  Edited By kinectthedots
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@blue_hazy_basic:

"hacking into Microsoft's employee network "

"The hackers are accused of providing the data to the burglars."

Smh, that's a lot worse than JUST hacking the online part of a console. It sounds like they have access to all that code that deals with xbox one. If you don't think XBL is factored into that code then are pretty dense.

They are actually BUILDING the systems dude lol they have enough information to do whatever they want they only need to do it or sell it to someone who want's to try.

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#20  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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I'm more surprised someone actually bought an xbone.

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#21 clyde46
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@b4x said:

@gago-gago said:

I remember reading about someone trying to sell a dev kit long time ago but not sure what system it was, gonna google it soon. Anyway, this really has nothing to do with Xbox Live. They stole code for a couple of games and employee info. It's not like PSN where hackers stole from far away. These guys actually had to go to break in their company property.

Australian guy. He was part of this. The Australian GOV. took care of him. American Attorney General was going extradite him. Came to an agreement to allow them to take care of their own.

Ah yes, Australia, Americans bitch.

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#22 B4X
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@clyde46 said:

@b4x said:

@gago-gago said:

I remember reading about someone trying to sell a dev kit long time ago but not sure what system it was, gonna google it soon. Anyway, this really has nothing to do with Xbox Live. They stole code for a couple of games and employee info. It's not like PSN where hackers stole from far away. These guys actually had to go to break in their company property.

Australian guy. He was part of this. The Australian GOV. took care of him. American Attorney General was going extradite him. Came to an agreement to allow them to take care of their own.

Ah yes, Australia, Americans bitch.

England actually.

Ok you're right. Both?

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@kinectthedots said:

@blue_hazy_basic:

"hacking into Microsoft's employee network "

Smh, that's a lot worse than JUST hacking the online part of a console. It sounds like they have access to all that code that deals with xbox one. If you don't think XBL is factored into that code then are pretty dense.

No its not. This is about corporate espionage and a private network and a burglary. You are looking at apples and oranges and thinking you see potatoes. This is not at all the same as hacking a live public network or compromising the details of customers, but hey you will read what you want to read (esp when you don't understand what you're reading)

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#24 clyde46
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@b4x said:

@clyde46 said:

@b4x said:

@gago-gago said:

I remember reading about someone trying to sell a dev kit long time ago but not sure what system it was, gonna google it soon. Anyway, this really has nothing to do with Xbox Live. They stole code for a couple of games and employee info. It's not like PSN where hackers stole from far away. These guys actually had to go to break in their company property.

Australian guy. He was part of this. The Australian GOV. took care of him. American Attorney General was going extradite him. Came to an agreement to allow them to take care of their own.

Ah yes, Australia, Americans bitch.

England actually.

Ok you're right. Both?

Nah, have you not seen what has just been pushed through the Australian Parliament?

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#25 B4X
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@clyde46 said:

@b4x said:

@clyde46 said:

@b4x said:

@gago-gago said:

I remember reading about someone trying to sell a dev kit long time ago but not sure what system it was, gonna google it soon. Anyway, this really has nothing to do with Xbox Live. They stole code for a couple of games and employee info. It's not like PSN where hackers stole from far away. These guys actually had to go to break in their company property.

Australian guy. He was part of this. The Australian GOV. took care of him. American Attorney General was going extradite him. Came to an agreement to allow them to take care of their own.

Ah yes, Australia, Americans bitch.

England actually.

Ok you're right. Both?

Nah, have you not seen what has just been pushed through the Australian Parliament?

Can't say that I have. I know China is at odds for democratic government.. Too much garbage in the news for me. I'll pass.

You can keep the drama. I'm good.

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Wow. That's pretty awful. I would love to meet them though.

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#27  Edited By kinectthedots
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@blue_hazy_basic said:

@kinectthedots said:

@blue_hazy_basic:

"hacking into Microsoft's employee network "

Smh, that's a lot worse than JUST hacking the online part of a console. It sounds like they have access to all that code that deals with xbox one. If you don't think XBL is factored into that code then are pretty dense.

... a private network and a burglary.

..Of MS

lol at you saying "a private network" as if that somehow makes people forget that the network you are referring to belongs to MS.

Dude hacking a corporate/employee based network that has all the sensitive information for the system itself is far worse than simply only trying to find a whole in it's online setup.

Not only did the hackers have information on XB1 they also had the information and codes to allow the hackers to break into the MS compound.

Don't know what your DCing is about but you clearly the one foaming at the mouth here.

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#28 cantloginnow
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Cows reaching again.

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@kinectthedots: Should open your own multi-billion dollar business and run it flawlessly.

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#32  Edited By PapaTrop
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"That console was then sold onto another unnamed person, who at the time was based in Mahe, Republic of Seychelles."

I know the identity of this person.

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#33 Tighaman
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@b4x: Whats funny about this story if you go back to his post about the leaks now we know they are legit. Xbox one is doing things the ps4 only wish it could do and we will finally find out how software has been really holding GPU and CPU back.

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#34  Edited By tormentos
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Wasn't one of those Superdae.? It seem like the kit he had..

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#35 tormentos
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@FastRobby said:

I know... but the hacking was two years ago, and has nothing to do with Azure, today, also it's not really hacking when you just use Employee data... Nothing todo with Azure security, but more with dumb Microsoft employee... But keep on thinking it's the same as the PSN hack that lost millions of users credit data

That is worse than you want to believe they stole paper on how MS products worked...

That scream security risk every where...

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@Tighaman said:

@b4x: Whats funny about this story if you go back to his post about the leaks now we know they are legit. Xbox one is doing things the ps4 only wish it could do and we will finally find out how software has been really holding GPU and CPU back.

Software will not make up the difference.

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#37  Edited By B4X
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@Tighaman said:

@b4x: Whats funny about this story if you go back to his post about the leaks now we know they are legit. Xbox one is doing things the ps4 only wish it could do and we will finally find out how software has been really holding GPU and CPU back.

Not holding my breath. We'll see.

You prove it or you don't say it.

Cloud, DX12, secret sauce..... They need to STFU and prove it.

Until then it's BS. Just saying.

You never count your chickens till their hatched. Don't take any wooden nickels either. In the end, if you do you're the only fool at the party.

One can hope though.

EDIT: FH2 is a STEP in the right direction though. I'll will give them credit for that.

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#38  Edited By Tighaman
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@clyde46: I never used the word difference and if you read AMD, Nvidia, Intel and MS said the same thing GPUs have always been powerful now we need the software to get 100% use out of the hardware.

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#39 clyde46
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@Tighaman said:

@clyde46: I never used the word difference and if you read AMD, Nvidia, Intel and MS said the same thing GPUs have always been powerful now we need the software to get 100% use out of the hardware.

Your post implied that this software would make it faster than a PS4 which is factually impossible.

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Instead they could have released information about upcoming IP and features. Or progress on announced ones. But nope, had to be idiots.

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@Tighaman said:

@b4x: Whats funny about this story if you go back to his post about the leaks now we know they are legit. Xbox one is doing things the ps4 only wish it could do and we will finally find out how software has been really holding GPU and CPU back.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..

You such a joke of a poster..lol

What is the xbox one doing that the PS4 only wish.? 720p games.?

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#43 Tighaman
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@tormentos: you the only one take this shit seriously you the only joke on this forum I could go on and on what I do on my xbox that its a chore to do on my ps4. From my controller bluetooth problems, dirty disk errors, while game is running in the background can open more than three tabs on browser and many other things it has been stagnant since I got it for my son in Jan. Games .......well thats up to you and to me xbox one has the better games and runs the multiplats better, I dont care what DF say my LG OLED tell me the whole story.

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damages lol bull shit

In general, never understood how companies with a straight face come up with these imaginary numbers when they say damages

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@kinectthedots said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

@kinectthedots said:

@blue_hazy_basic:

"hacking into Microsoft's employee network "

Smh, that's a lot worse than JUST hacking the online part of a console. It sounds like they have access to all that code that deals with xbox one. If you don't think XBL is factored into that code then are pretty dense.

... a private network and a burglary.

..Of MS

lol at you saying "a private network" as if that somehow makes people forget that the network you are referring to belongs to MS.

Dude hacking a corporate/employee based network that has all the sensitive information for the system itself is far worse than simply only trying to find a whole in it's online setup.

Not only did the hackers have information on XB1 they also had the information and codes to allow the hackers to break into the MS compound.

Don't know what your DCing is about but you clearly the one foaming at the mouth here.

actually he's right. you really have no clue what ur talking about. ur OP and DC you're doing here now shows that easily.

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1. the hackers were caught, and have pleaded guilty.
2. Have the people responsible for the 72+ days of psn down time been arrested yet? *I say 72+ because the service as a whole wasn't bad up for that long I can't remember the exact figure, areas were back up before then but as a whole it wasn't*
3. this seems to be a hell of a lot more of a hack than the psn one....the psn hack was basically done by script kiddies because Sony used etch a sketches as servers, This hack seems to be a multi person hack with deep roots in international crime.

So we have this......
Sony: all it takes is some teenagers with the most rudimentary coding knowledge, and some blackhat software to get into our servers.
Microsoft: an international hacker ring didn't hack xbox live but our employee database, and sold information to some criminals who actually showed up on physical location, and broke in and stole items.

Or this analogy.
Sony-the manager at a local walmart, and all the employee's walked out after unlocking all the eletronic item cases, and opened the safe in the money room behind the service desk.
Microsoft-Oceans 11, Oceans 12, and Oceans 13

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#48 Kjranu
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They keep incredibly sensitive data online on an open network? They deserve it then.

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#49 Prawephet
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If they leaked the source code and everything else online does this not mean hacked Xbone is coming in the very near future? Have fun playing online games against invincible players Xboners. Lol. 1 more strike against the Xbone.

Although. Being hacked could help Xbone sales as that entire crowd of people will start scooping them up. It may hurt software sales though.

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#50  Edited By Daious
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@Tighaman said:

@tormentos: xbox one has the better games and runs the multiplats better, I dont care what DF say my LG OLED tell me the whole story.

No one here believes you PNF. I wish you would stop being so biased. PS4 has a more powerful GPU and the architecture of the system are so similar.

Why is it so much of a surprise that PS4 is doing better? This isn't like last gen where the the consoles performance were hard to compare because of the specs. Its really easy. It wouldn't make sense that the xboxone would have a multiplatform game that looks better when the other AMD-based system has a better gpu.

And please stop citing Nvidia and AMD statements on directx12 on PC. Its a completely different scenario.

I thought you were done here after you you said Titanfall would be 1080p and 60fps on Xboxone. You made a huge deal out of it.