Half Life: Episode 3. (MAJOR SPOILERS.)

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#1 nike_SB
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well i finished every HL game there is. just beat the orange box (except portal) not too long ago. pretty much beat HL, Opposing Force, Blueshift, HL2, EP1-2.. and i'm waiting for EP3. but even with all this information soaked in, i think i might've missed something.

what's the borealis? i know its a massive ship.. but was it mentioned in any of the other HL's? cause' i think i missed it.. also, i thought the combine were slow and sluggish in there natural states? why are they so quick? i thought they grew weak and fat due to controlling other species and not using their own bodies.. killing Eli was a cheapshot D:

also, i'm still a little confused here with some of the creatures.. correct me if i'm wrong, but are gunships alien wildlife infused with combine weapon technology? i shot down a gunship and it fell within sight of me, so i studied it. it looks alot like an animal.. but then again i could be a wrong. i know for a fact that striders are alien wildlife, cause' i saw blood spurt out of one when Dog ripped out something inside it in EP2.

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The Borealis is a ship where scientific investigations were made as far as I know. (If I remember correctly, if you looked closely on Dr. Kleiners video, you could make out the Aperture Science logo. An Easter Egg? Maybe. An indication to Portal being mixed with HL2? Possible!)
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The Borealis is a ship where scientific investigations were made as far as I know. (If I remember correctly, if you looked closely on Dr. Kleiners video, you could make out the Aperture Science logo. An Easter Egg? Maybe. An indication to Portal being mixed with HL2? Possible!)super_mario_128


i see.. very interesting. so the borealis was only mentioned in EP2? i saw that aperture logo too, it made me lol :D
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The Borealis is apparently owned by Apeture Science, Black Mesa's research rival.

The game kinda acted like we should have already known that or something.

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Every single "unit" that the combine uses seems to be a cyborg of sorts - that is a hybrid of machine and a living entity. Walkers and those flying whales as I call them, are all "cyborgs".

The Borialis seems to be a ship pocessing some kind of gateway technolog - Portal seems to give us some answers into that. Further taking a look into the history, you can see that Black Mesa and Aperture Science were rivals, and were both battling each other government grants for some kind of gateway technology. Perhaps that was that they had stowed away in that ship.

I personally think that they next Half Life 2 Episode will be a race against the combine to get that ship. Eventually an emo Alyx and Gordon will be the first inside, and we will be left with a massive cliff hanger ending, the same as the original Half Life 2, and it will set up Half Life 3 which will be finally of series, released in 2015.

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The Borealis is apparently owned by Apeture Science, Black Mesa's research rival.

The game kind ofacted like we should have already known that or something.

D0013ER

"My goodness! It's the Borealis!" - Erm, Wut? -.-

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The Borealis is apparently owned by Apeture Science, Black Mesa's research rival.

The game kinda acted like we should have already known that or something.

D0013ER


exactly, i was like.. wth? how the hell did i miss this when i was playing all these games?
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The Borealis is apparently owned by Apeture Science, Black Mesa's research rival.

The game kinda acted like we should have already known that or something.

D0013ER

same with teh introduction of that new scientist, forgot his name. lol its like yea we all know this guy you remember him right gordan? "no who the hell is he"

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Every single "unit" that the combine uses seems to be a cyborg of sorts - that is a hybrid of machine and a living entity. Walkers and those flying whales as I call them, are all "cyborgs".

The Borialis seems to be a ship pocessing some kind of gateway technolog - Portal seems to give us some answers into that. Further taking a look into the history, you can see that Black Mesa and Aperture Science were rivals, and were both battling each other government grants for some kind of gateway technology. Perhaps that was that they had stowed away in that ship.

I personally think that they next Half Life 2 Episode will be a race against the combine to get that ship. Eventually an emo Alyx and Gordon will be the first inside, and we will be left with a massive cliff hanger ending, the same as the original Half Life 2, and it will set up Half Life 3 which will be finally of series, released in 2015.

elbow2k


:lol: nice

i felt bad for alyx though, i didn't want eli to go out like that D: but i think i read somewhere that they weren't making an HL3.. i wish.. seems EP3 will be the end. :(
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Borealis, back in the leaked beta days, was a really really creepy hip carrying stalkers, soldiersand such, obviously not made by apeture science at the time. You got to the front of it and entered a submarien in the end where you and what is now oddyssa took a sub down to an underwater science lab.
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#11 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="D0013ER"]

The Borealis is apparently owned by Apeture Science, Black Mesa's research rival.

The game kinda acted like we should have already known that or something.

blues3531

same with teh introduction of that new scientist, forgot his name. lol its like yea we all know this guy you remember him right gordan? "no who the hell is he"

Yeh, he was an awesome character though. A nice change from all the cheery people, to a pessimistic and bossy old git!

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Borealis, back in the leaked beta days, was a really really creepy hip carrying stalkers, soldiersand such, obviously not made by apeture science at the time. You got to the front of it and entered a submarien in the end where you and what is now oddyssa took a sub down to an underwater science lab. kittykatz5k


huh?? leaked beta?? where the hell can i play this? if it's even possible?
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#13 super_mario_128
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2:_Episode_Three

Wiki tells me episode 3 is the last story in the Half Life 2 arc, so there may be a possibility for an episode 3.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_2:_Episode_Three

Wiki tells me episode 3 is the last story in the Half Life 2 arc, so there may be a possibility for an episode 3.

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:D sweet
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#15 super_mario_128
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Oops, where I said episode 3 at the end of my last post, I meant Half Life 3. :P

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I think the whole ship deal is a reference to 'The Philadelphia Experiment'.
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[QUOTE="D0013ER"]

The Borealis is apparently owned by Apeture Science, Black Mesa's research rival.

The game kinda acted like we should have already known that or something.

blues3531

same with teh introduction of that new scientist, forgot his name. lol its like yea we all know this guy you remember him right gordan? "no who the hell is he"

Magnusson?

I liked him. He did kind of come out of nowhere, but it was good to see a fresh face to join the crew from the earlier episodes. I appreciated his different character, also.

There's a lot of stuff I'm excited about for Episode 3, because there's so much left to be answered. I just hope it doesn't all feel rushed to a conclusion. Can't wait to see the commentary on it too!

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The Borealis is a ship where scientific investigations were made as far as I know. (If I remember correctly, if you looked closely on Dr. Kleiners video, you could make out the Aperture Science logo. An Easter Egg? Maybe. An indication to Portal being mixed with HL2? Possible!)super_mario_128

It actually does mixbecausethere r some indication about Black Messa of HL in Portal.

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Well, I think it's common knowledge by now if you've played Episode 2 and Portal that Portal is connected/in the Half-Life universe. Obviously with the Apeture logo on the Borealis, and even from when GlaDOS in the credits says something along the lines of "Maybe you'll find someone else to help you. Maybe Black Mesa. That was a joke Ha-ha, fat chance." So like others have said the two companies obviously were competing rivals. Maybe you'll hear about how Chell escaped the facility as you see at the end of Portal, depending on when Portal was set in. Although I think it's during the Half-Life 1 or even prior to HL1 because otherwise GlaDOS' reference to Black Mesa would be odd. But VALVe has said that Episode 3 will not be the last game in the HL franchise, the next Half-Life project could be a prequel for all we know. However, I think we should come back to that topic in 6 years.
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I sure hope we get to kill the Advisor that killed Eli in Episode 3. Stupid Disgusting slug.
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Didn't any of you guys see the projectors in the locked rooms towards the end of Portal? It shows a few funny things about their competition with Black Mesa.
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#22 chutup
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Can I just say that nowhere in HL2 does it say that the Advisors are the original or natural form of Combine. They might be, but it might just as easily be something else entirely. Personally I think the Combine have incorporated so many races that the original race has been lost.
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#23 Minglis
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maybe they just ripped it out of their arse because they ran out of ideas lol. i was left dumbfounded by this bit about the borealis. or maybe their intention was that we werent meant to know much about it because gordon didnt either? i dunno...

doesnt matter, it was a great game.

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Man i just relized, in Ep 3 Alyx is gonna be so emo.....she will probably sit it out for Ep 3. bring on Dr. Kleiner! =]
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wouldn't you be sad if your last surviving parent was killed by a putrid slug alien creature?? i would -__o
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Actually, the Advisors are the most advanced form of Combine, I'm guessing. Since they have that much power of telekinesis and such, I would guess they're a breed of overlords.

But how they become that way, I have no idea.

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#27 nike_SB
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Can I just say that nowhere in HL2 does it say that the Advisors are the original or natural form of Combine. They might be, but it might just as easily be something else entirely. Personally I think the Combine have incorporated so many races that the original race has been lost.chutup


i think in Wiki it tells you that the combine's true form is a slug like form.. not 100% sure though, too lazy to post a link :oops:
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#28 nike_SB
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Actually, the Advisors are the most advanced form of Combine, I'm guessing. Since they have that much power of telekinesis and such, I would guess they're a breed of overlords.

But how they become that way, I have no idea.

BK-Sleeper


they became sluggish and pretty much all their limbs became vestigial.. seeing as how they controlled other species and never used their own bodies. a theory
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[QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"]

Actually, the Advisors are the most advanced form of Combine, I'm guessing. Since they have that much power of telekinesis and such, I would guess they're a breed of overlords.

But how they become that way, I have no idea.

nike_SB



they became sluggish and pretty much all their limbs became vestigial.. seeing as how they controlled other species and never used their own bodies. a theory

But then the questions comes up as what are the basic combine? Are they pretty much just smaller slugs in a suit with a mask, or probably something like an actual mutated human or other alien that's under the mind control of an Advisor?

Makes you wonder if any of the Combine soldiers you kill in the game are ACTUAL combine, but that's only considering that Advisors are the only TRUE kind of Combine.

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[QUOTE="nike_SB"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"]

Actually, the Advisors are the most advanced form of Combine, I'm guessing. Since they have that much power of telekinesis and such, I would guess they're a breed of overlords.

But how they become that way, I have no idea.

BK-Sleeper



they became sluggish and pretty much all their limbs became vestigial.. seeing as how they controlled other species and never used their own bodies. a theory

But then the questions comes up as what are the basic combine? Are they pretty much just smaller slugs in a suit with a mask, or probably something like an actual mutated human or other alien that's under the mind control of an Advisor?

Makes you wonder if any of the Combine soldiers you kill in the game are ACTUAL combine, but that's only considering that Advisors are the only TRUE kind of Combine.



well dude the combine use mind control on the species they dominate, those combine soldiers we fight are humans being controlled by combine, as for their lesser forms, thats any ones guess. imma make a wild guess here and say that perhaps they're sorta like bee's, ants, etc.. in which their is one dominant combine, and the rest are lesser, less useful slugs. but in this case, there are various 'dominant' combine forms. aka the advisors.

the only non-combine soldiers you face is civilian protection early in the game, they're volunteers not yet brainwashed, but will be as they increase in rank. (an odd reward, no?)
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#31 BK-Sleeper
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Very weird. We may never know until Valve releases the 'Combine for Dummies' book.
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#32 nike_SB
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Very weird. We may never know until Valve releases the 'Combine for Dummies' book.BK-Sleeper


i wouldn't be surprised if it was modded :lol: damn source engine
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play portal.!!
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Iam pretty sure Portal is set after the events of HL1 and the 7 hour war. The place is completely abandoned and if you go outside it looks just like HL2 terrain. All destoryed cars and no life whatsoever. Kinda creppy if you ask me.

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The advisors probably are the combine overlords because Dr. Breen who was the highest of all the humans is always seen talking to the advisors when something major happens (Like when seeing Gordon Freeman for the first time)

Plus when the citadel was going into meltdown the advisors were the first ones to leave.

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#36 BK-Sleeper
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It's weird though when you find an Advisor in a sort of hibernation in that farmhouse in Episode 2.