Halo 1 and 2 SP have really really really horrible Level Design.

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#1 Poop_Slash
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Library Level was a fricking Migrane to navigate thru.

Repetive as hell design and textures.

the Snow level on Halo 1 was the same repeated Convenant Tower about 7 times over.

^^^^^

Why are people still excited about Halo 3?

I waited on line for Halo 2 with the Midnight madness. but was completely destroyed when I saw the same levels.

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#2 HungryLikeAMug
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just keep telling yourself that...both halos are superb...although admitedly halo 2 is a step back campaign wise...they are both stellar games
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#3 Ninja-Vox
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The Snow Level was Assault on the Control Room... and it's one of the reasons everyone loved that game so much. :? Halo 1 Single Player kicked a lot of ass. Halo 2, you have a point. The level design was flawed in that you had to fend off snipers and attacking close-quarters bad guys at the same time. There were WAY too many snipers.
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#4 Poop_Slash
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just keep telling yourself that...both halos are superb...although admitedly halo 2 is a step back campaign wise...they are both stellar gamesHungryLikeAMug

I don't like Halo. So kill me?

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#5 The_Game21x
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Your opinion is in the minority. Both Halo's have been praised for their all aroundgreat level design.

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#6 hkmp5a2
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This thread is the reason I asked casey if they are going to enforce a rule that does not allow people to post with such low account levels and post on SW....
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#7 A_zombie
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[QUOTE="HungryLikeAMug"]just keep telling yourself that...both halos are superb...although admitedly halo 2 is a step back campaign wise...they are both stellar gamesPoop_Slash

I don't like Halo. So kill me?

STill no reason to go off about it like it's a fact.

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#8 DivergeUnify
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This thread is the reason I asked casey if they are going to enforce a rule that does not allow people to post with such low account levels and post on SW....hkmp5a2
Excuse me, your post count is quite low considering your level. How the hell are people supposed to learn how and what's acceptable if they can't do it themselves....
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#9 albertodr13
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hey that was a long time ago, developers were new to that generation of design...
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#10 HungryLikeAMug
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it seems like the cool thing to do for a minority of the gaming community to hate on halo...everytime you do i just smile because i know september 25 i will be playing it and i know somewhere in the back of your mind you will want to
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#11 A_zombie
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This thread is the reason I asked casey if they are going to enforce a rule that does not allow people to post with such low account levels and post on SW....hkmp5a2

If you do that, then you will leave ONLY the people that pay. This could also be a free site so don't be bringing it up again.

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#12 MIYAMOTOnext007
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Seriously no one with "poop" in there name should be able to post on system wars., and believe me there are alot of people with poop in their name on GS.
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#13 HungryLikeAMug
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complaining about other peoples post count is pathetic...
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[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]This thread is the reason I asked casey if they are going to enforce a rule that does not allow people to post with such low account levels and post on SW....DivergeUnify
Excuse me, your post count is quite low considering your level. How the hell are people supposed to learn how and what's acceptable if they can't do it themselves....

I said post count and level.......

and when you see at least 10-15 new members a day that has one post to thier name an that one post is

"xbox sucks" or ps3flopzone"........any normal person that post I have no problem with, just people like the TC

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#15 Jamani
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Lol again with the halo sucks thread we'll just see in september.
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#16 A_zombie
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Seriously no one with "poop" in there name should be able to post on system wars., and believe me there are alot of people with poop in their name on GS.MIYAMOTOnext007

Believe me, he reminds me of someone.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]This thread is the reason I asked casey if they are going to enforce a rule that does not allow people to post with such low account levels and post on SW....hkmp5a2

Excuse me, your post count is quite low considering your level. How the hell are people supposed to learn how and what's acceptable if they can't do it themselves....

I said post count and level.......

and when you see at least 10-15 new members a day that has one post to thier name an that one post is

"xbox sucks" or ps3flopzone"........people shouldstart out of these forums.

Oh really, like users with Level 23 and 2000 post counts don't say that?

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#17 jayers228
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wtf halo: combat evolved probably had one of the best single players at the time and it was an awesome game in general; Halo 2 didnt quite have the single player experience as the first one but it really help revolutionize multiplayer with its unique matchmaking system and gameplay; Halo 3 is going to be as good as any of the other Halo's if not better...

and if your a sony fanboy Killzone was just a sad attempt by sony to mimic Halo...Killzone 2 ugh terrible :P

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#18 hkmp5a2
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[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]Seriously no one with "poop" in there name should be able to post on system wars., and believe me there are alot of people with poop in their name on GS.A_zombie

Believe me, he reminds me of someone.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]This thread is the reason I asked casey if they are going to enforce a rule that does not allow people to post with such low account levels and post on SW....hkmp5a2

Excuse me, your post count is quite low considering your level. How the hell are people supposed to learn how and what's acceptable if they can't do it themselves....

I said post count and level.......

and when you see at least 10-15 new members a day that has one post to thier name an that one post is

"xbox sucks" or ps3flopzone"........people shouldstart out of these forums.

Oh really, like users with Level 23 and 2000 post counts don't say that?

yes they do good sir, they are also the ones that make these new accounts up....

I went over the top with my first statement but knowing when a person is just making a new account up to just spam mad me a little angry..sorry :(

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#19 ToScA-
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The Silent Cartographer says no.

Also, linear level design (as Halo is often criticized for) does not equal horrible level deisgn.

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#20 jayers228
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Library Level was a fricking Migrane to navigate thru.

Repetive as hell design and textures.

the Snow level on Halo 1 was the same repeated Convenant Tower about 7 times over.

^^^^^

Why are people still excited about Halo 3?

I waited on line for Halo 2 with the Midnight madness. but was completely destroyed when I saw the same levels.

Poop_Slash

oh and by the way whats this your 4th Gamespot account

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#21 Decko5
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true dat
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#22 AntiType
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Those guys at Bungie have no creativity... everything is either ripped off or just dull. I think the original Metroid Prime will still have superior level design then Halo 3 will.
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#23 jayers228
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Those guys at Bungie have no creativity... everything is either ripped off or just dull. I think the original Metroid Prime will still have superior level design then Halo 3 will.AntiType

lol

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#24 tramp
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I agree the majority of Halo/2's indoor level design is really repetitive.

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#25 ace52387
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I wouldn't exactly put it the same way but the level design was pretty terrible in the first game. It's like a trudge...The different enemy AI's kept things interesting but they're way overrated. They flank you according to many reviews, and that was something I never experienced.

Halo has some of the best core gameplay in FPS. It rewards getting in close, which provides some much needed freshness to the FPS genre. Strafe shooting gets boring ya? I played Halo a good bit after it came out, and I was unimpressed because my expectations were quite high. The second Halo i played right after HL2...and if anyone can argue that Halo has better single player than HL2...I'd like to hear some talking points.

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#26 bullfrogj3
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Those guys at Bungie have no creativity... everything is either ripped off or just dull. I think the original Metroid Prime will still have superior level design then Halo 3 will.AntiType

Dear Game Designer,

I read your informative post on the GS forums and I wanted to tell you how impressed I was with your keen insights into level design. I look forward to your new game, please let me know when i may purchase a copy as I'm sure it will blow my mind. Thank you for your time, and have a good day!:D

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#27 Jamani
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[QUOTE="AntiType"]Those guys at Bungie have no creativity... everything is either ripped off or just dull. I think the original Metroid Prime will still have superior level design then Halo 3 will.bullfrogj3

Dear Game Designer,

I read your informative post on the GS forums and I wanted to tell you how impressed I was with your keen insights into level design. I look forward to your new game, please let me know when i may purchase a copy as I'm sure it will blow my mind. Thank you for your time, and have a good day!:D

lmao yea everyones a expert in system wars.