Halo 3 campaign image confirmed to be in-game

Not in-engine. Not cut-scene. Gameplay. Read:

"The shot was taken by our very own Sketch. He detached the camera on an early level, flew out a little, made sure nothing too revealing was in the background, and took a shot. There you have it. It's not only the game engine, it's the game. Accusations of "bullshot" were especially amusing given the utter lack of stuff in the shot. A dude, some clouds, a mountain. Not only was it not fake, it would have been the most pointless fake in the history of gaming."

So, the huge number of cows claiming it was fake, accept your ownage with dignity. That includes the one guy who adamently said Frankie's forum account was not in fact Frankie, when he claimed that it was in-game earlier, and that he was lying.

Most of the haters were in two camps; one that it was too good to be real (now owned) and the other that it was a "downgrade" to which we have:

"Then there was the complaint that it was different than the model shown at E3. Well it was, but only in that we replaced the "concrete" hammered finish texture with a flatter metal version that the artists here preferred, and was more akin to the previous iterations of the Spartan MJOLNIR metal. Otherwise the model is identical. It's literally the same geometry."

From bungie.net posted by Frankie himself.

Haters Pwned. Seriously, who honestly thought this was not in-game?Spartan070

I don't know, the same people who think Mass Effect shots aren't ingame.

Haters Pwned. Seriously, who honestly thought this was not in-game?Spartan070

me. but i was not a hater. the small image was to good to be true. watching the image in a larger size made me believe it could be true, cause the textures weren't all that.

Haters Pwned. Seriously, who honestly thought this was not in-game?Spartan070

this peculuar fellow named vandal, but he was trolling more or less

I think it was mentioned that it was taken from in-game in the description tailing the pic on bungie.net...

It looks good, not impossible.

I dont get why people say it is a downgrade...

Looks amazing IMO

"Then there was the complaint that it was different than the model shown at E3. Well it was, but only in that we replaced the "concrete" hammered finish texture with a flatter metal version that the artists here preferred, and was more akin to the previous iterations of the Spartan MJOLNIR metal."

Ninja-Vox

As a veru avid Halo fan/follower, I agree 100%. The E3 trailer armor doesn't look like it's descibed in the books, regardless of whether or not we think it looks better. In the books the armor is described as having a "glossy smooth sheen" that appears almost alien in nature. That flak-jacket wannabe from the E3 trailer was not authentic by my, and Bungies standards.

"Then there was the complaint that it was different than the model shown at E3. Well it was, but only in that we replaced the "concrete" hammered finish texture with a flatter metal version that the artists here preferred, and was more akin to the previous iterations of the Spartan MJOLNIR metal"

Does he mean that "flatter metal version" is gonna be used from now on?Or was did they just replace it just for that pic,and theyre gonna add the pretty golden armor with the high-res textures back for the retail?I prefer the purrty gold one myself.

At least this gets rid of the "lolz fake" fanboys. We still have the "lolz downgrade" fanboys though :(

okay, great. thanks. but why no shiney metelic armor?>.... looks great though.furtherfan

They said earlier that they didn't like the "metallic" attempt with Halo 2, as it basically made the Cheif look bright green unless the lighting was perfect - which i'd agree with. They then said a while back that they were trying again to get a "metal" texture - and it was even there in the multiplayer beta - but again that they weren't happy with it because the texture kinda looked like sandpaper; so this is what they're going with. As Frankie said, its what the art team were happy with.

"Then there was the complaint that it was different than the model shown at E3. Well it was, but only in that we replaced the "concrete" hammered finish texture with a flatter metal version that the artists here preferred, and was more akin to the previous iterations of the Spartan MJOLNIR metal"

Does he mean that "flatter metal version" is gonna be used from now on?Or was did they just replace it just for that pic,and theyre gonna add the pretty golden armor with the high-res textures back for the retail?I prefer the purrty gold one myself.

killab2oo5

i din't like the grain in that metal. i prefer the smooth kind

The game comes out in September. If the pic is fake, Bungie would get destroyed for it. Just look at the hoopla with Killzone 2 @ E3 2005, and that was just a demo video. I don't like Halo, but that character model does look impressive.

ofcource you can tell its ingame with its blurry bad texturesl1mIt

Really? Because i could quote you right now saying "not in game" in the very first thread on system wars showing off that campaign image. Would you like me to do that, or will you just admit that you're a bit of a hater and you've now just changed your tune because it is, in fact, totally real?

[QUOTE="furtherfan"]okay, great. thanks. but why no shiney metelic armor?>.... looks great though.Ninja-Vox

They said earlier that they didn't like the "metallic" attempt with Halo 2, as it basically made the Cheif look bright green unless the lighting was perfect - which i'd agree with. They then said a while back that they were trying again to get a "metal" texture - and it was even there in the multiplayer beta - but again that they weren't happy with it because the texture kinda looked like sandpaper; so this is what they're going with. As Frankie said, its what the art team were happy with.

i agree. but the trailer was metalic. i like how it is in the screen though.

ofcource you can tell its ingame with its blurry bad texturesl1mIt

lol....

I dont get why people say it is a downgrade...

Looks amazing IMO

_en1gma_

LOL lets see if anyone will admit there wrong.LOL i was trying to tell u guys, but would u listen.jujutheking

allready did. but you telling doesn't make things a fact.

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I dont get why people say it is a downgrade...

Looks amazing IMO

smokeydabear076

You didn't read did you. They purposely choose the new texturing because it more accurately relays how it looks in the books. I posted on the first page detailing this.

In all honesty, this is an in-game shot, NOT the same model used in the cutscenes, which is where you'll be seeing Master Chief most of the time anyway! Why exactly would they waste time in making a model that users won't even see into something insanely detailed? It'd waste resources, which are being used to render the enviroment...which we will be seeing.

I think people will appreciate the cutscenes, since they'll be able to apply different effects that they couldn't normally use in-game. DoF, different lighting techniques, ect.

Now, I'm saying all this before actually seeing the final product, but I don't think anything is disagreeable here.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I dont get why people say it is a downgrade...

Looks amazing IMO

Spartan070

You didn't read did you. They purposely choose the new texturing because it more accurately relays how it looks in the books. I posted on the first page detailing this.

ofcource you can tell its ingame with its blurry bad texturesl1mIt

So here we have l1mIt, happily saying he can easily tell it's in game because of the "blurry bad textures." He clearly forgot his glasses today; but nevermind that. Instead, let's take a look at this curious post:

Link to the first topic on the new screenshot

And one of the first replies is....

not ingamel1mIt

Wow; so you've gone from claiming it's so good, there's no way it can be in-game, to saying it's so bad you can easily tell that it's in-game. In less than 24 hours. Am i to take what you say seriously, or can we just write you off as a hater in future Halo topics?

bye now.

[QUOTE="l1mIt"]ofcource you can tell its ingame with its blurry bad texturesSpartan070

lol....

Oh if thats the pic then I didn't see no cows saying it wasn't ingame rather they where saying it looks downgraded but it looks great to me, although I would of guessed it was an ingame shot.. It is downgrade from the E3 trailer though..

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I dont get why people say it is a downgrade...

Looks amazing IMO

smokeydabear076

they replaced the textures with the more flat, original style

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I dont get why people say it is a downgrade...

Looks amazing IMO

smokeydabear076

You didn't read did you. They purposely choose the new texturing because it more accurately relays how it looks in the books. I posted on the first page detailing this.

i think it looks practically the same (albeit the changed textures and visor)

In all honesty, this is an in-game shot, NOT the same model used in the cutscenes, which is where you'll be seeing Master Chief most of the time anyway! Why exactly would they waste time in making a model that users won't even see into something insanely detailed? It'd waste resources, which are being used to render the enviroment...which we will be seeing.

I think people will appreciate the cutscenes, since they'll be able to apply different effects that they couldn't normally use in-game. DoF, different lighting techniques, ect.

Now, I'm saying all this before actually seeing the final product, but I don't think anything is disagreeable here.

JLuke360

Completely true. This is the MC in-game. In cut scenes they can apply all kinds of nice effects which make him look sharper and more detailed. I think the E3 trailer will look identical to the chief you see in all of the in-game cutscenes, only without the sand-paper textures.

ofcource you can tell its ingame with its blurry bad texturesl1mIt

Looks about 20x better than the multiplayer beta, that's all I know. I'm actually pretty surprised.Zeliard9

well, if you look closely to the new screens on ign, it's not far of from the new multiplayer screens (and yes, they too are an improvement from the beta)

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I dont get why people say it is a downgrade...

Looks amazing IMO

_en1gma_

You didn't read did you. They purposely choose the new texturing because it more accurately relays how it looks in the books. I posted on the first page detailing this.

i think it looks practically the same (albeit the changed textures and visor)

Lets remember the older e3 video was IN ENGINE, this is in game. In Engine cut scenes have more resources and can add many touch ups that are not possible in playable gameplay because as I said, not as many resources are available. It's nice to see the fanboys try and spin it.

Example, MGS

Well obviously not everyone agrees.:P I like it though... looks like I am going to have to make a new halo 3 sig, my old one has the old style.

no one know what style they are going to choose... :P

[QUOTE="l1mIt"]ofcource you can tell its ingame with its blurry bad texturesNinja-Vox

So here we have l1mIt, happily saying he can easily tell it's in game because of the "blurry bad textures." He clearly forgot his glasses today; but nevermind that. Instead, let's take a look at this curious post:

Link to the first topic on the new screenshot

And one of the first replies is....

not ingamel1mIt

Wow; so you've gone from claiming it's so good, there's no way it can be in-game, to saying it's so bad you can easily tell that it's in-game. In less than 24 hours. Am i to take what you say seriously, or can we just write you off as a hater in future Halo topics?

bye now.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"]

I dont get why people say it is a downgrade...

Looks amazing IMO

_en1gma_

You didn't read did you. They purposely choose the new texturing because it more accurately relays how it looks in the books. I posted on the first page detailing this.

i think it looks practically the same (albeit the changed textures and visor)

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="l1mIt"]ofcource you can tell its ingame with its blurry bad texturesDahaka-UK

lol....

Oh if thats the pic then I didn't see no cows saying it wasn't ingame rather they where saying it looks downgraded but it looks great to me, although I would of guessed it was an ingame shot.. It is downgrade from the E3 trailer though..

then why praise the cut-scenes, if gameplay matters more, and truly shows off the system running real-time effects? Mordred19

Because you never see the chief in-game. You only see his hands (and legs if you look down). It'd be a pointless waste of resources to have a mega-detailed awesome master chief running around which you'll never see. Instead, they shift those resources to other things like the environments and the enemies you're fighting to make sure THEY look awesome. Then with cutscenes, THEN they pile on the effects to make MC look kick-ass.

And even then, considering you'll never see this guy while playing; dont you think that look amazing? The detail on a character you wont even see? I think it does. Just think of how awesome the elites are going to look.