Halo 3 has been out nearly 2 years and...

Did you really need to slam those 3 games to make Halo look better? Halo will always get hate, just accept it and enjoy the game instead of trying to defend its sales.

Yeah it is, which is why it's convienent that no one has actually said it. :|

Oh of course, the 30% attach rate topic. *sigh* The whole point of replies is that you do it within the same topic. Though 30% is incredibly high for a single game. Still can't get anywhere near Wii Sports attach rate....

halo is overrated where little 10 year old kids buy and scream into the mics, congratulations :)

Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..Ambli

[QUOTE="Ambli"]Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..IronBass

[QUOTE="Ambli"]Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Ambli"]Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..Ambli

Your the great IronlemmingHarlockJC

Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..Ambli

It's quite simple. Halo 3 may have impressive sales for the Xbox 360, but by comparison games like Wii Play and Wii Fit can out sell it by twice with ease. What this really tells us is that it is not quality that makes a game sell, it's a complete myth. Sales are not in sync with review scores or gamers own opinions, not by a long shot. Just because Halo has sold the most does not make it the superior shooter. People need to understand this, that arguing about sales is meaningless when it can not improve your own enjoyment of a title.

[QUOTE="Ambli"]Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..Ek-Andy

It's quite simple. Halo 3 may have impressive sales for the Xbox 360, but by comparison games like Wii Play and Wii Fit can out sell it by twice with ease. What this really tells us is that it is not quality that makes a game sell, it's a complete myth. Sales are not in sync with review scores or gamers own opinions, not by a long shot. Just because Halo has sold the most does not make it the superior shooter. People need to understand this, that arguing about sales is meaningless when it can not improve your own enjoyment of a title.

Uh, everyone knows that sales don't improve your enjoyment of a game. If you are trying to say sales aren't relevant however, you are incorrect, they matter and hold worth more than people giveit cedit for.

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[QUOTE="Ambli"]Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..ActicEdge

It's quite simple. Halo 3 may have impressive sales for the Xbox 360, but by comparison games like Wii Play and Wii Fit can out sell it by twice with ease. What this really tells us is that it is not quality that makes a game sell, it's a complete myth. Sales are not in sync with review scores or gamers own opinions, not by a long shot. Just because Halo has sold the most does not make it the superior shooter. People need to understand this, that arguing about sales is meaningless when it can not improve your own enjoyment of a title.

Uh, everyone knows that sales don't improve your enjoyment of a game. If you are trying to say sales aren't relevant however, you are incorrect, they matter and hold worth more than people giveit cedit for.

No, they don't. The only time sales have EVER mattered was when it was a matter of a company going out of buisness, and losing a great developer which is very rare. This nonsense about who's making the most money from what means nothing when they arn't making the most enjoyable games, and I believe there are much better games than Halo that have sold less, for example Half Life 2.

Erm....it's freaking Halo. Why is anybody surprised?

Wii Play's been out nearly three years....

You can figure out where I'm going out this. ;)

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[QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

It's quite simple. Halo 3 may have impressive sales for the Xbox 360, but by comparison games like Wii Play and Wii Fit can out sell it by twice with ease. What this really tells us is that it is not quality that makes a game sell, it's a complete myth. Sales are not in sync with review scores or gamers own opinions, not by a long shot. Just because Halo has sold the most does not make it the superior shooter. People need to understand this, that arguing about sales is meaningless when it can not improve your own enjoyment of a title.

Ek-Andy

Uh, everyone knows that sales don't improve your enjoyment of a game. If you are trying to say sales aren't relevant however, you are incorrect, they matter and hold worth more than people giveit cedit for.

No, they don't. The only time sales have EVER mattered was when it was a matter of a company going out of buisness, and losing a great developer which is very rare. This nonsense about who's making the most money from what means nothing when they arn't making the most enjoyable games, and I believe there are much better games than Halo that have sold less, for example Half Life 2.

Uh no, they absolutely do matter. Maybe the people you arhue with are only intersted in claiming ownage with sales but people like you need to get it through your head that NO ONE EVER SAYS THAT A GAMES SALES DICTATE ITS QUALITY. NOBODY SAYS THAT. You want to know why sales matter? Where is my Zack and Wiki sequal or game of similar design? Oh yeah, non existant, you know why? Cause it sold like crap. Why did Tomb Raider Underworld in game content get changed into DLC? The sales my friend, they weren't going to make enough money. Why is it that developers like Conspiracy entertainment and Phoenix games produce nothing but crap? Sales, they don't make anywhere near the amount of money necessary to make a good game. There is tons of proof out there, you want links to Capcom telling me that the sales matter for Zack and Wiki? This isn't an issue you can win with me just basing your evidence off of how you feel, you need to show me proof as to why sales are irrelevant or you will be buried because I have tons of links that can prove you wrong.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh, everyone knows that sales don't improve your enjoyment of a game. If you are trying to say sales aren't relevant however, you are incorrect, they matter and hold worth more than people giveit cedit for.

ActicEdge

No, they don't. The only time sales have EVER mattered was when it was a matter of a company going out of buisness, and losing a great developer which is very rare. This nonsense about who's making the most money from what means nothing when they arn't making the most enjoyable games, and I believe there are much better games than Halo that have sold less, for example Half Life 2.

Uh no, they absolutely do matter. Maybe the people you arhue with are only intersted in claiming ownage with sales but people like you need to get it through your head that NO ONE EVER SAYS THAT A GAMES SALES DICTATE ITS QUALITY. NOBODY SAYS THAT. You want to know why sales matter? Where is my Zack and Wiki sequal or game of similar design? Oh yeah, non existant, you know why? Cause it sold like crap. Why did Tomb Raider Underworld in game content get changed into DLC? The sales my friend, they weren't going to make enough money. Why is it that developers like Conspiracy entertainment and Phoenix games produce nothing but crap? Sales, they don't make anywhere near the amount of money necessary to make a good game. There is tons of proof out there, you want links to Capcom telling me that the sales matter for Zack and Wiki? This isn't an issue you can win with me just basing your evidence off of how you feel, you need to show me proof as to why sales are irrelevant or you will be buried because I have tons of links that can prove you wrong.

Not sales talk again! :cry:

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[QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

No, they don't. The only time sales have EVER mattered was when it was a matter of a company going out of buisness, and losing a great developer which is very rare. This nonsense about who's making the most money from what means nothing when they arn't making the most enjoyable games, and I believe there are much better games than Halo that have sold less, for example Half Life 2.

Silverbond

Uh no, they absolutely do matter. Maybe the people you arhue with are only intersted in claiming ownage with sales but people like you need to get it through your head that NO ONE EVER SAYS THAT A GAMES SALES DICTATE ITS QUALITY. NOBODY SAYS THAT. You want to know why sales matter? Where is my Zack and Wiki sequal or game of similar design? Oh yeah, non existant, you know why? Cause it sold like crap. Why did Tomb Raider Underworld in game content get changed into DLC? The sales my friend, they weren't going to make enough money. Why is it that developers like Conspiracy entertainment and Phoenix games produce nothing but crap? Sales, they don't make anywhere near the amount of money necessary to make a good game. There is tons of proof out there, you want links to Capcom telling me that the sales matter for Zack and Wiki? This isn't an issue you can win with me just basing your evidence off of how you feel, you need to show me proof as to why sales are irrelevant or you will be buried because I have tons of links that can prove you wrong.

Not sales talk again! :cry:

Don't worry, I'm not continuing any further after this. Its just becoming a big waste of time. Thread is about Halo, Halo it shall remain.

[QUOTE="Ambli"]Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..IronBass

HA, always knew you'd slip up eventually. You.Are.A.Cow. :lol:

Seriously TC, we know, as 360 fanboys love to bring up, Halo 3 is a monster seller. Congrats for pointing out the obvious. :roll:

And Wiifit dominated it as far as sales go. Go figure.skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]And Wiifit dominated it as far as sales go. Go figure.Jamex1987

Yes, yes it is.

Why do you ask?

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]And Wiifit dominated it as far as sales go. Go figure.Jamex1987

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]And Wiifit dominated it as far as sales go. Go figure.Silverbond

Yes, yes it is.

Why do you ask?

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] Is Wii fit considered a game ?Jamex1987

Yes, yes it is.

Why do you ask?

Well, have you played it?

yeah because sales determine how great a game is.

/sarcasm

Wii Fit has outsold Halo 3 sales and Gears of war sales put together.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh, everyone knows that sales don't improve your enjoyment of a game. If you are trying to say sales aren't relevant however, you are incorrect, they matter and hold worth more than people giveit cedit for.

ActicEdge

No, they don't. The only time sales have EVER mattered was when it was a matter of a company going out of buisness, and losing a great developer which is very rare. This nonsense about who's making the most money from what means nothing when they arn't making the most enjoyable games, and I believe there are much better games than Halo that have sold less, for example Half Life 2.

Uh no, they absolutely do matter. Maybe the people you arhue with are only intersted in claiming ownage with sales but people like you need to get it through your head that NO ONE EVER SAYS THAT A GAMES SALES DICTATE ITS QUALITY. NOBODY SAYS THAT. You want to know why sales matter? Where is my Zack and Wiki sequal or game of similar design? Oh yeah, non existant, you know why? Cause it sold like crap. Why did Tomb Raider Underworld in game content get changed into DLC? The sales my friend, they weren't going to make enough money. Why is it that developers like Conspiracy entertainment and Phoenix games produce nothing but crap? Sales, they don't make anywhere near the amount of money necessary to make a good game. There is tons of proof out there, you want links to Capcom telling me that the sales matter for Zack and Wiki? This isn't an issue you can win with me just basing your evidence off of how you feel, you need to show me proof as to why sales are irrelevant or you will be buried because I have tons of links that can prove you wrong.

This is incredibly flawed. So because some games sold badly that means that sales matter completely in System Wars because...? They do not matter here. If people don't want to buy games they wont buy games. It can not be helped. It matters in a diffrent respect, but what you are talking about is completely diffrent. I was referring to the use of sales in System Wars. In a more general sense sales do matter to some because it is often the case that some games don't earn the sales they deserve (Okami for example) which can lead to bad circumstances, but there is nothing to discuss there except that that it is a total pity, and shocking that people continue to buy crap over quality titles. It does not matter to System Wars and hence it dosn't matter here. Sales wont improve my enjoyment of a title if it is worth buying in the first place. Okami isn't any worse because of sales, Tomb Raider might be, but it was destined to be crap in the first place anyway. A good game is a good game regardless of how well it sells.

EDIT: And just to point out the only reason why people talk about sales in the first place is to compare quality. Lets face it, if a game is selling over 2 million who cares? It's likely to get a sequel anyway. So you're wrong when you say, "No one was saying that." The very act of bringing up the sales argument for Halo is used as a point of it being a quality title. The sales of Halo 3 do not matter to me at all, and using your argument they shouldn't matter to you either.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]And Wiifit dominated it as far as sales go. Go figure.Jamex1987

Halo 3 was a phenomenon.carljohnson3456

Holy crap!! Your new avatar and sig is INSANE!!! :shock:

Wii Fit has outsold Halo 3 sales and Gears of war sales put together.

Ultramarine777

Strangely enough, people don't consider Wii Fit a game. :roll:

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Ambli"]Read the topic at the bottom of the page bashing Halo 3 sales. :) And why do PS3 fans go to the Wii when they have nothing else to say..Ambli

Why do lem go to sales when they can't defend anything else? And by the way I have a 360 and i just enjoy my 360 and didn't enjoy Halo omg kill me now -_-

And WiiFit has been out a lot less and has already outsold it.IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"]And WiiFit has been out a lot less and has already outsold it.Sonic_on_crack

Wii Fit and Halo 3 are both games.

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Yes, yes it is.

Why do you ask?

Silverbond

Well, have you played it?

You don't 'play' wii fit lol

I don't even know the verb for it.

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] I thought it was an exercise video with a balance board. Doesn't sound like a game.PSdual_wielder

Well, have you played it?

You don't 'play' wii fit lol

I don't even know the verb for it.

You buy the package, you plug in the controller, you put in the disc, you start the disc and you manipulate the content of the disc in an interactive way using the provided controller. Sounds an awful lot like a video game to me....

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

You don't 'play' wii fit lol

I don't even know the verb for it.

You buy the package, you plug in the controller, you put in the disc, you start the disc and you manipulate the content of the disc in an interactive way using the provided controller. Sounds an awful lot like a video game to me....

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

You don't 'play' wii fit lol

I don't even know the verb for it.

moose_knuckler

You buy the package, you plug in the controller, you put in the disc, you start the disc and you manipulate the content of the disc in an interactive way using the provided controller. Sounds an awful lot like a video game to me....

It dosn't really matter what anyone calls it because it's still clasified as a video game.

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

You don't 'play' wii fit lol

I don't even know the verb for it.

moose_knuckler

You buy the package, you plug in the controller, you put in the disc, you start the disc and you manipulate the content of the disc in an interactive way using the provided controller. Sounds an awful lot like a video game to me....

Nah, I'd call it more of an interactive workout video than a video game.

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

You buy the package, you plug in the controller, you put in the disc, you start the disc and you manipulate the content of the disc in an interactive way using the provided controller. Sounds an awful lot like a video game to me....

dgsag

Nah, I'd call it more of an interactive workout video than a video game.

ok we get it no other console exclusive first person shooter will outsell halo3