Halo 3 is a serious GOTY contender

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#1 h575309
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With BioShock scoring lower than expected (i know it was hyped AAA but we all know we expected 9.5 with the scores it was getting from other sites), BioShock is looking less like the best game of this year (from Gamespots perspective at least). Now, alot of Halo haters like to refuse that Halo 3 deserves to be in the running but ill ask you this - if it delivers a solid single player performance on par with Halo 1 and a souped up pimped out version of Halo 2's MP, why would it not be considered a GOTY contender? If it can take the best parts of the first two games and combine them, theres no reason why it wont be great.

f you read around the internet most sites love what they have played of halo 3's single player and say the AI is very well done and some say its the best AI seen in a FPS. Most are not crazy about the graphics but why is that the end of the world?

GOTY will go to the game with the best overall fun factor, value, and general experience. Halo 3 looks to provide all three. I am not saying it is a guaranteed GOTY but I definitely think it deserves to be up there with BioShock, Mass Effect, SMG, and MP3 as GOTY candidates.

Check this out for a good example of some of the recent AI and graphics impressions:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/813/813454p1.html

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#2 muppet1010
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yeah its defintiely in with a chance...
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#3 Shazenab
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Its in there and in any other year I'd have said it would have beaten everything else easily. But this year the standerd is much higher than usual. Frankly this holiday period is just what I needed, after the last two odd years I had started to get bored with video games... Now Bioshock and Galaxy have pushed me back into the gaming direction.
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i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.
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#5 Shazenab
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i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

Not really. 9.0 is still GOTY potential...

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#6 h575309
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i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

well this is true. but then it just sparks another debate on whether game of the year should be the game with the best score or is it the game with the most value/score? what happens if two or more games get 9.5's? how is that going to be decided?

im just saying from the sheer amount of value we are getting with halo 3 it seems like people are overlooking the fact that this game could very well get GOTY and it should be a contender. im not debating what will be goty im just sick of hearing its the same generic halo, when there are plenty of other sequels which are considered goty contenders.

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#7 muppet1010
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i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

its sometimes slightly obvious when a game has more potential than others though :roll:

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.Shazenab

Not really. 9.0 is still GOTY potential...

how do you know halo 3 will score that high?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.muppet1010

its sometimes slightly obvious when a game has more potential than others though :roll:

history has shown otherwise.

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if bioshock only gets 9.0 then i cant see halo getting more then 8.5
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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

Not really. 9.0 is still GOTY potential...

how do you know halo 3 will score that high?

thats bioshock's score

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#12 h575309
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if bioshock only gets 9.0 then i cant see halo getting more then 8.5niall077

how can you say that? halo 3 offers more replayability from both SP and MP, along with AI that is supposedly very strong, something which bioshock had a knock against it for. bioshock isnt flawless and the replayability is no where near halo's. halo 3 doesnt just come with a 15 hour single player. thats really only a small fraction of what bungie is bringing us with halo 3.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.DDX2

Not really. 9.0 is still GOTY potential...

how do you know halo 3 will score that high?

thats bioshock's score

i know. how do you know halo 3 will score that high?

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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

Not really. 9.0 is still GOTY potential...

how do you know halo 3 will score that high?

He was replying to your post suggesting after the review bioshock is no longer a goty contender like was claimed before review. He suggested that it in fact is still a goty contender. He wasn't reffering to Halo.
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With BioShock scoring lower than expected (i know it was hyped AAA but we all know we expected 9.5 with the scores it was getting from other sites), BioShock is looking less like the best game of this year (from Gamespots perspective at least). Now, alot of Halo haters like to refuse that Halo 3 deserves to be in the running but ill ask you this - if it delivers a solid single player performance on par with Halo 1 and a souped up pimped out version of Halo 2's MP, why would it not be considered a GOTY contender? If it can take the best parts of the first two games and combine them, theres no reason why it wont be great.

f you read around the internet most sites love what they have played of halo 3's single player and say the AI is very well done and some say its the best AI seen in a FPS. Most are not crazy about the graphics but why is that the end of the world?

GOTY will go to the game with the best overall fun factor, value, and general experience. Halo 3 looks to provide all three. I am not saying it is a guaranteed GOTY but I definitely think it deserves to be up there with BioShock, Mass Effect, SMG, and MP3 as GOTY candidates.

h575309

Well, if you look at Jeff's biggest gripes with Bioshock (guide arrow, combat is too easy, no penalty of dying, etc.), NONE of these things will happen in Halo 3. Great AI (tough, smart, overwhelming). Huge battles. Epic story. Great deep multiplayer. Tons of replay. And the "x-factor" - its being made by Bungie. I still have faith in them that they will learn from their mistakes with Halo 2 and make an even better game in 3.

So - yes, I feel that Halo 3 has a better chance at GOTY here at GS after the Bioshock review.

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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

Not really. 9.0 is still GOTY potential...

how do you know halo 3 will score that high?

I was talking about the bioshock review. You were basically saying that the 9.0 should teach us something. As if the 9.0 meant it wasn't worthy of the GOTY hype Bioshock was/is creating.

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[QUOTE="muppet1010"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

its sometimes slightly obvious when a game has more potential than others though :roll:

history has shown otherwise.

Bioshock is still a GOTY contender, as was Zelda last year. Stop being so combative just because you are a mod.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.Shazenab

Not really. 9.0 is still GOTY potential...

how do you know halo 3 will score that high?

I was talking about the bioshock review. You were basically saying that the 9.0 should teach us something. As if the 9.0 meant it wasn't worthy of the GOTY hype Bioshock was/is creating.

no. i mentioned yesterday on more than one occasion that a 9.0 is still a goty contender. what i was talking about here is that you guys DO NOT know what a game will score until it's reviewed.

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[QUOTE="h575309"]

With BioShock scoring lower than expected (i know it was hyped AAA but we all know we expected 9.5 with the scores it was getting from other sites), BioShock is looking less like the best game of this year (from Gamespots perspective at least). Now, alot of Halo haters like to refuse that Halo 3 deserves to be in the running but ill ask you this - if it delivers a solid single player performance on par with Halo 1 and a souped up pimped out version of Halo 2's MP, why would it not be considered a GOTY contender? If it can take the best parts of the first two games and combine them, theres no reason why it wont be great.

f you read around the internet most sites love what they have played of halo 3's single player and say the AI is very well done and some say its the best AI seen in a FPS. Most are not crazy about the graphics but why is that the end of the world?

GOTY will go to the game with the best overall fun factor, value, and general experience. Halo 3 looks to provide all three. I am not saying it is a guaranteed GOTY but I definitely think it deserves to be up there with BioShock, Mass Effect, SMG, and MP3 as GOTY candidates.

REVENGEotSITH

Well, if you look at Jeff's biggest gripes with Bioshock (guide arrow, combat is too easy, no penalty of dying, etc.), NONE of these things will happen in Halo 3. Great AI (tough, smart, overwhelming). Huge battles. Epic story. Great deep multiplayer. Tons of replay. And the "x-factor" - its being made by Bungie. I still have faith in them that they will learn from their mistakes with Halo 2 and make an even better game in 3.

So - yes, I feel that Halo 3 has a better chance at GOTY here at GS after the Bioshock review.

agreed. even though it is the most hyped game, i still feel its going to deliver. knowing how well bungie refines their gameplay and the amount of features being offered, unless theres a serious problem with framerate or AI, i dont see how it couldnt get AAA.

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#20 CaseyWegner
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Bioshock is still a GOTY contender, as was Zelda last year. Stop being so combative just because you are a mod.

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i know it's still a goty contender. i said that yesterday. what does me being a mod have to do with anything? :|

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#21 Bromz
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"i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something." Interesting wording then if you were simply referring to scores, not bioshock's goty standing.
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I don't like halo, but it's definitley in with a chance, it has some feirce competition though.
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#23 h575309
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I don't like halo, but it's definitley in with a chance, it has some feirce competition though.samtheprankster

competition is good it makes games better. im curious if any of the ps3 exclusives become goty contenders though.

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Little Big Planet will most likely be Game of 2007 imo

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#25 bulletmath
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agreed, although i think that MP3 and Halo have less chances than technical showpieces like Galaxy and Mass Effect

but they're definately contenders

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altough halo 3 has a chance, i would put games like crysis, bioshock, ME, MP3 and ME above it
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i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

That if we wouldn't have hyped Bioshock GOTY then it would have actually scored even higher?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.Supafly1

That if we wouldn't have hyped Bioshock GOTY then it would have actually scored even higher?

no. hype has no effect on the score.

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is Jeff gonna review it? :P

and is there some unwritten rule somewhere that only the highest scoring game can win GoTY? are we suggesting Bioshock is out because of the 9.0?

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Little Big Planet will most likely be Game of 2007 imo

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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]

I was talking about the bioshock review. You were basically saying that the 9.0 should teach us something. As if the 9.0 meant it wasn't worthy of the GOTY hype Bioshock was/is creating.

CaseyWegner

no. i mentioned yesterday on more than one occasion that a 9.0 is still a goty contender. what i was talking about here is that you guys DO NOT know what a game will score until it's reviewed.

Well he didn't say what he thought Halo 3 would get. He was merely stating that Bioshock, even with its 9 review score, is sitll a potential GOTY. He said nothing about Halo 3 scoring 9. Is there a translation of needing to be 9+ to be a GOTY? I though it was preference.
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#32 Tactis
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i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

no offense casey but if everything we think is GOTY contender fails then the standards on this website are too high imo...

anyway halo 3 has a chance still mass effect all the way

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.Tactis

no offense casey but if everything we think is GOTY contender fails then the standards on this website are too high imo...

but you guys are saying it before the game is reviewed. it's one thing to predict a score. it's quite another to predict a higher status before it's reviewed.

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If a revolutionary FPS like Bioshock can only score 9.0 then I doubt a recycling FPS like Halo 3 could even break 8.5. Thus destroying any chance at it getting close to receiving GOTY. I don't think any GOTY has ever scored under a 9.0.
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bioshock can't be the game of the year, it's just a bad shooter. the environment, and everything else besides the gameplay is what got it the high scores. halo 3 will win goty easily, nothing else can compete.
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If a revolutionary FPS like Bioshock can only score 9.0 then I doubt a recycling FPS like Halo 3 could even break 8.5. Thus destroying any chance at it getting close to receiving GOTY. I don't think any GOTY has ever scored under a 9.0.foxhound_fox

revolutionary, what's revolutionary? using a wrench for melee attacks? really revolutionary.

and the plasmids are just an improved copy of cortez's left hand abilities in Timesplitters: future perfect.

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[QUOTE="Shazenab"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

Not really. 9.0 is still GOTY potential...

how do you know halo 3 will score that high?

It's HALO 3. If it doesn't score that high, something is very, very wrong.

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#39 espoac
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Biosock still has a better chance than Halo 3. Halo 3 just doesn't do enough things new to be a serious GOTY contender or at least to be cnsidered on the same plane as Biosock and Mass Effect(if that lives up to its potential).
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#40 Hermitkermit
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so is the new rating like this?

1.0 1.5 2.0 2.5 3.0 3.5 4.0 4.5 5.0 5.5 6.0 6.5 7.0 7.5 8.0 8.5 9.0 9.5???

Halo 3 still has a chance to get 9.0 at least!!!

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Gamespot likes controversy... consitantly giving out lower scores just to make a name for one self, doesnt make them good reviews.

i think you guys should wait until games are reviewed before calling them goty contenders. yesterday should have taught you something.CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="jechtshot78"]

Bioshock is still a GOTY contender, as was Zelda last year. Stop being so combative just because you are a mod.

CaseyWegner

i know it's still a goty contender. i said that yesterday. what does me being a mod have to do with anything? :|

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#42 GunSmith1_basic
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Sure, Halo 3 has a shot. Dont besurprised if Mass Effect gets it instead, or even a wii game like galaxy

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#43 nybritboy
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after reading the wired article today I think Halo3 has a shot, the work that they are putting into this game is incredible
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#44 CaseyWegner
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Gamespot likes controversy... consitantly giving out lower scores just to make a name for one self, doesnt make them good reviews.

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they don't consistently give out lower scores. :?

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#45 h575309
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If a revolutionary FPS like Bioshock can only score 9.0 then I doubt a recycling FPS like Halo 3 could even break 8.5. Thus destroying any chance at it getting close to receiving GOTY. I don't think any GOTY has ever scored under a 9.0.foxhound_fox

recycling FPS? so are you saying no other sequel could get GOTY or break 8.5? im guessing CoD4, UT3, MGS4, and MP3 should get no higher than 8.5 b/c they are just "recycling" old formulas...

BioShock also has problems like redundant enemies according to GameSpot... so its not flawless thats why it got 9.0

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#46 mistervengeance
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[QUOTE="Bdking57"]

Gamespot likes controversy... consitantly giving out lower scores just to make a name for one self, doesnt make them good reviews.

CaseyWegner

they don't consistently give out lower scores. :?

no,bdking is right, gamespot is a lot tougher to please than game informer, ign, and other sources.