Halo 3 stole the bubble shield?

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#1 MegaPigeon
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A much echoed phrase from cows in SW. Apparently Bungie stole the idea of the bubble shield and brute spike grenade from Insomniac.

 

Think about it, the deployable equiptment is a whole new spin on Halo 3's gameplay. Why would they spend so much time designing levels only to add the bubble shield after seeing it in Resistance? Well, it would make the gameplay very unbalanced and would kill much of the design in the maps. And Resistance's bubble shield is unlockable at the end of the game, right? Resistance was released in November 2006. Halo 3 was being developed a long, long time before that. The deployable equipment is to Halo 3 as dual wielding is to Halo 2. It's a small feature that puts a whole new spin on the gameplay itself.

As for the brute spike grenade, that's apparently stolen from Resistance as well. Both grenades handle and act completely differently.The Resistance spike grenade launches itself into mid-air and fires rivets into the room, wherein they impale anything they touch and stick into the walls upon impact. The brute spike grenade simply explodes and sends shards of metal into the surrounding area, and they either eviscerate the victim or bounce off the walls to cause even more damage. Besides, judging by the early vidocs and trailers (and even Halo 2), the Brutes aren't like the rest of the covenant. While the other members of the covenant use plasma weapons and wear sleek armour, the brutes use projectile weapons like the brute shot and are generally not as graceful as the elites. Naturally, they would use much more primitive and pointy equipment. While brainstorming Halo 3, Bungie probably had to come up with ideas for the Brute's standard equipment as the Plasma rifle is usually associated with the Elites, and as the Brute's uprising was just begining in Halo 2, it would probably be mandatory to give the Brutes their own equipment as it has been quite some time after their uprising at the start of Halo 3. Due to their personalities (as described before) a spike pistol was probably the best option to go for, and the idea of a spike grenade was likely to have been born from that. Personally I think the name 'spike grenade' comes more from the fact that the grenade has barbed hooks all over it, rather than it's resulting projectile. Besides, some could say that Resistance stole the idea of the spike grenade from Team Fortress, as did they steal the Auger shield from Unreal Tournament. :o

 

So please stop the bickering at how Bungie steal. It's mear coincidence.

 

 [AN OFFICIAL MEGA PIGEON EDIT] The Starry night trailer was released a month after Resistance's release. So this pretty much proves that they didn't steal it. How do I know this? Any developer in their right mind won't suddenly dramaticaly change the game's design in the middle of development for the sake of trying to be up to date.If they did get the idea of deployable equipment form Resistance, we wouldn't be seeing a September release date- they'd be too busy trying to rebalance and redesign the levels.

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#2 eastside49er
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Halo 3 has been in development for over 3 years.

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#3 Toaster_Cell
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Don't worry; they're grasping for straws.

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#4 thirstychainsaw
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Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|
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#5 GundamGuy0
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No really the bubble shield was stolen from Super Smash Bros... :roll:
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#6 army-of_one
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[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|[/QUOTE

lol

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#7 lantus
Member since 2006 • 10591 Posts

Lol that's the first time I've ever heard this arguement, I didn't even think of associating them as the same when I first saw them.

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#8 Chaos_HL21
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Guns firing bullets? Resitance stole that from Wolfenstein 3D:)

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#9 El_Fanboy
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everybody stole everything from somebody
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#10 blackbahanut
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Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|thirstychainsaw
No wait.... Halo and resistance copied all the 50's scifi movies... Oh No!
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#11 NextGenNow
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Halo 3 has been in development for over 3 years.

eastside49er

And yet months after Resistance is launched we hear about these great innovations lol

Look honestly I laugh at people who think game's can even steal...they can't. If they could then lawsuits over online multiplayer, weapons, graphics engines etc etc would be poppin up everywhere.

 

Fact is you guys should play Resistance....fanboy cow etc aside...this game is the gold standard for the console FPS right now. No matter what people say...it just kix azz

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#12 blizzvalve
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Wasn't the bubble shield announced before Resistance came out?
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#13 MegaPigeon
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

Halo 3 has been in development for over 3 years.

NextGenNow

And yet months after Resistance is launched we hear about these great innovations lol

Look honestly I laugh at people who think game's can even steal...they can't. If they could then lawsuits over online multiplayer, weapons, graphics engines etc etc would be poppin up everywhere.

 

Fact is you guys should play Resistance....fanboy cow etc aside...this game is the gold standard for the console FPS right now. No matter what people say...it just kix azz

 

Wait, did you even read my original post? No, you didn't did you? Please read my original post. Thank you.

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#14 blackbahanut
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

Halo 3 has been in development for over 3 years.

NextGenNow

And yet months after Resistance is launched we hear about these great innovations lol

Look honestly I laugh at people who think game's can even steal...they can't. If they could then lawsuits over online multiplayer, weapons, graphics engines etc etc would be poppin up everywhere.

 

Fact is you guys should play Resistance....fanboy cow etc aside...this game is the gold standard for the console FPS right now. No matter what people say...it just kix azz

I always thought the game looked pretty good, but I am too busy playin the Halo 3 Beta 

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#15 MegaPigeon
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Wasn't the bubble shield announced before Resistance came out?blizzvalve

Actually, now I've looked into it, it was announced a month after Resistance's release. I'll edit the post :) 

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#16 Hater3000
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Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|thirstychainsaw
They copied space invaders1!!1.:p
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#17 grafkhun
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game ideas are always reused! h3ll u could say that halo ripped off half-life b/c there are guns in both :| everygame rips others thats how it is.
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#18 thirstychainsaw
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

Halo 3 has been in development for over 3 years.

NextGenNow

And yet months after Resistance is launched we hear about these great innovations lol

New information spawning when the beta is released...*gasp*...:|

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#19 MegaPigeon
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[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|Hater3000
They copied space invaders1!!1.:p

 

PIXELS! They copied.....ah forget it :( 

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#20 XaosII
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Dark Messiah already had the bubble shield before either title. I doubt even Dark Messiah was the first to come up with it in an FPS.
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#21 Prid3r
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The guy on the other side of the street have copied my skin color :|

If this make sense to you , then you will rule SW . 

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#22 Vandalvideo
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The people are Bungie are pathological "borrowers" from other franchises. They even say so in their official blog. This was suprising how?
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#23 hongkingkong
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Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|thirstychainsaw

Ownage x lol factor= shuttupya face 

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#24 kornbone
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What makes you think Resistance wasn't developed from years ago?
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#25 Big_Red_Button
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The deployable equipment thing in Halo 3 is useless....

They acted like it was a "big thing", but as shown in the beta, it doesn't change the game AT ALL. It's a rarely used addition, and all the bubble shield means is that I have to move in and bust his face in with the butt of my rifle.

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#26 kittykatz5k
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Guns firing bullets? Resitance stole that from Wolfenstein 3D:)

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Graphics!?!?!?! They stole that from pong!

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#27 Nerkcon
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Your all such idiots Sonic started the bubble shield first dammit! And are done better with Sonic too since there is more then one type and they all add powers.
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#28 NextGenNow
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=TTbZU-h-Lp4

Win

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#29 ToScA-
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The bubble shield was announced when the CGI trailer was released. I hope you're not saying they quickly changed the CGI-trailer with 4 weeks left after RFOM released...I believe the bubble shield has been thought of for quite a while.
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#30 Tiefster
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Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|thirstychainsaw


Someone doesn't know **** about storylines
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=TTbZU-h-Lp4

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Fail.

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#32 marklarmer
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The word stole implies insomniac could no longer use it.i prefer the word inspired.
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#33 MegaPigeon
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The bubble shield was announced when the CGI trailer was released. I hope you're not saying they quickly changed the CGI-trailer with 4 weeks left after RFOM released...I believe the bubble shield has been thought of for quite a while.ToScA-

 

Don't worry, I'm saying the bubble shield was originally planned :)

The deployable equipment thing in Halo 3 is useless....

They acted like it was a "big thing", but as shown in the beta, it doesn't change the game AT ALL. It's a rarely used addition, and all the bubble shield means is that I have to move in and bust his face in with the butt of my rifle.

Big_Red_Button

It's added some hillarious moments in the Beta for me, and it's bound to be intergrated well into the SP if Bungie do their usual thing of making good, no, awesome games. 

What makes you think Resistance wasn't developed from years ago?kornbone

Yes, Resistance was being developed years ago. The thread is about the alleged "stelaing" of the bubble shield and spike grenade from Resistance. 

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#34 martin_f
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Robbers stole the money.
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#35 cheatymcshifty
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Don't worry; they're grasping for straws.

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While... I dont think they stole it... I will say this:

So.. bungie can announce somthing awile after a different game does it.. but they're not stealing, but when sony announces motion sensing awile after nintendo, they're copying ... right...

The fact is fanboys assume they're company invented everything... but it's not like resistance invented either of those things... (honestly.. if you dont see spike grenades as a fancier term for frag grenades.. your not looking very hard... it's exactly the same thing but with ... spikes.. instead of shards of metal...) ... and it's not like no game has ever let you put up a shield at will.... 

Yeah.. If you beleived everything you read on SW, every company copied every idea they had from every other company....

Home copied XBL and second life, wii copied sidewinder, XBL copied seganet, honestly... you expect companies to say... well.. thats a great idea... but.. they came up with it first.. lets not do anything like it... ever... kinda like no other companies made cars after diamler-chrylser did... oh.. wait...

 

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#36 haris12121212
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Whatever with the X stole from Y, Y stole form Z... come on ppl... next time a game comes out and has a gun or a sword as a main weapon I'm gonna yell all over the place they stole it from real life!!!!
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#37 newsoulhk
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I think they stole from Dark Sector.......:D
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#38 jsnepo
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Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|thirstychainsaw

/thread LOL 

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#39 CaUs3
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Halo 3 has been in development for over 3 years.

eastside49er

really they couldnt of stole it 

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#40 After_Math
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Resistance ISN'T about an Alien Invasion, its never stated how the Chimera came into being. Many think they are a Bio-Experiment gone wrong.
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#41 gnutux
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[QUOTE="Hater3000"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]Aliens invading Earth? :o Resistance copied Halo!1!!11 :|MegaPigeon

They copied space invaders1!!1.:p

PIXELS! They copied.....ah forget it :(

O NOES!!! GAMES USES BINARY, IT COPIED THE Zuse Z3!! gnutux