Halo 4 cannot compete against Black Ops 2!

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#1 Second_Hokage
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What is microsoft thinking? In a november month, what makes them think 360 players are going to pick up halo 4 over a cod title? There is no FPS game that can compete with the quality and content that cod offers every year. I guess they are going to have to learn the hard way, just like EA did with battlefield 3. Im sure all of you will agree with me, halo 4 is setting itself up for a failure by launching in cod territory.
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#2 crimsonman1245
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Yeah, I dont think Halo, Assassins Creed, or GTA are worried about any other game.

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#3 ninjapirate2000
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Release it in September. Problem solved.
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#4 Blabadon
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Yes it can.

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#5 BigBoss255
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Oh please, Halo 4 is gonna be 100x better than Black Ops 2. If you were on about sales then I'd half agree but no the first Black Ops was awful quality wise and there's no reason to believe 2 should be any different. Halo 3>>>>>>MW3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Crap Ops
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#6 free_milk
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halo cant compete with anything

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ps. both are crappy shooters anyway

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#7 crimsonman1245
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halo cant compete with anything

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ps. both are crappy shooters anyway

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I enjoyed Black Ops single player, it was really good, some tech issues that shouldnt have been there, but still good.

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#8 Spartan070
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Lol what? Halo is NOT worried about Black Ops or anything else COD. Halo is the nuclear bomb this year.
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#9 free_milk
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[QUOTE="free_milk"]

halo cant compete with anything

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ps. both are crappy shooters anyway

crimsonman1245

I enjoyed Black Ops single player, it was really good, some tech issues that shouldnt have been there, but still good.

confusing they didnt explain anything in detail and i didnt feel sad if the key charachters died eg.wood as oppoesed to the way i felt when soap died or when sandman was trapped.
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#10 Aux99
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Yeah, black ops 2 will outsell it but halo 4 will be the better game

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What is microsoft thinking? In a november month, what makes them think 360 players are going to pick up halo 4 over a cod title? There is no FPS game that can compete with the quality and content that cod offers every year. I guess they are going to have to learn the hard way, just like EA did with battlefield 3. Im sure all of you will agree with me, halo 4 is setting itself up for a failure by launching in cod territory.Second_Hokage

BF3 has sold around 10 million...pretty sure those are very successful numbers...anyway, HALO is a completely different FPS targeted at a different audience...I'm sure it'l do just fine.

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#12 GTSaiyanjin2
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Looking foward to both.... Have not always been a fan of the Halo games. But they have the potential to be fantastic games. I'm also interested to see what 343 Industries does with the franchise. As for Blackops 2 I think it will be a good game, not sure if much will change, but Treyarch has always done a good job with the COD games, at least more than IW has done in the past 4 years.

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#13 organic_machine
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This is a difficlt scenario for MS given that humans are incapable of buying more than a single game at once.
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#14 immortality20
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I'll buy both, and if Black Ops is any indication, I'll be doing my online on Black Ops 2 for sure. I know gamers here turn their nose up on COD here, and pull the superiority card, but my friends and I still do Black Ops. I'll enjoy the single player in Halo 4 1000x more probably.

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#15 EVOLV3
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It's going to be an interesting holiday season with a Call of Duty, Halo, and a GTA game all launching together at the same time

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#16 tjricardo089
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Release it in September. Problem solved.ninjapirate2000

Pretty much. However, I think Halo 4 might get a good shot against BO2, because on the 360 is where the Halo fanboys are.

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eh considering the fact halo is an exclusive game for the most part to the 360 then I doubt its worried about garnering wide sales only appealing to the halo fans on the xbox systems.

Really if halo were released on the ps3 I wonder how many sales it would get?

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#18 delta3074
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eh considering the fact halo is an exclusive game for the most part to the 360 then I doubt its worried about garnering wide sales only appealing to the halo fans on the xbox systems.

Really if halo were released on the ps3 I wonder how many sales it would get?

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i bet Halo 4 would sell well on all platforms.
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Release it in September. Problem solved.ninjapirate2000
We have a winner.
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What is microsoft thinking? In a november month, what makes them think 360 players are going to pick up halo 4 over a cod title? There is no FPS game that can compete with the quality and content that cod offers every year. I guess they are going to have to learn the hard way, just like EA did with battlefield 3. Im sure all of you will agree with me, halo 4 is setting itself up for a failure by launching in cod territory.Second_Hokage
black ops 2 and halo 4 cant compete against doom4 they both ripped it off.
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#21 BangYongGuk
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Halo 4 looks like the biggest garbage I have ever seen.
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#22 Assassin_87
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I can't agree with any assertion backing the line of thinking that says Call of Duty = unmatched quality.

I will say that I expect Black Ops 2 to outsell everything this holiday season. When it comes to sales, COD has proven itself to be king, and until I see otherwise I'll expect more of the same.

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#23 Spartan070
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Black Ops, being a multiplat, will sell more overall. Halo 4, however, will sell more on 360. No doubt.
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#24 Second_Hokage
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I'll buy both, and if Black Ops is any indication, I'll be doing my online on Black Ops 2 for sure. I know gamers here turn their nose up on COD here, and pull the superiority card, but my friends and I still do Black Ops. I'll enjoy the single player in Halo 4 1000x more probably.

immortality20

I agree, but cod has way more replay value, its not like in halo 4 you can customize your weapons, get kill streak rewards, and prestige. These are the keys to successful shooters nowadays.

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#25 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

I'll buy both, and if Black Ops is any indication, I'll be doing my online on Black Ops 2 for sure. I know gamers here turn their nose up on COD here, and pull the superiority card, but my friends and I still do Black Ops. I'll enjoy the single player in Halo 4 1000x more probably.

I agree, but cod has way more replay value, its not like in halo 4 you can customize your weapons, get kill streak rewards, and prestige. These are the keys to successful shooters nowadays.

You need to check the leaked info from the upcoming GameInformer. Halo looks to be better at that aspect. Only thing is no weapon customization, which would be terrible for Halo anyway.
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#26 dr-professional
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What is microsoft thinking? In a november month, what makes them think 360 players are going to pick up halo 4 over a cod title? There is no FPS game that can compete with the quality and content that cod offers every year. I guess they are going to have to learn the hard way, just like EA did with battlefield 3. Im sure all of you will agree with me, halo 4 is setting itself up for a failure by launching in cod territory.Second_Hokage
Because in same sales Ratio, Halo sells more than COD on every system it sells on. If you were to take Halo sells on the Xbox and expand it if it was released on each console, Halo would have sold more. Analysis by a professional doctor.
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#27 SaltyMeatballs
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It can and it will, get over it.
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#28 lamprey263
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I'm sure Halo can do just fine against COD, it's not like anybody in their right mind thinks Halo will outperform it in sales, that doesn't mean it won't do well on its own. And surely there's a lot of people out there who will buy both. I doubt we're going to have a repeat of 4th quarter '08, when they released like a dozen good games over the course of one month, that's too much competition. The year after everybody steered clear of the 4th quarter and it was one of the most miserable 4th quarters ever for releases. Anyhow I'm pretty much done with COD myself, took me a while to come around but I'm done, I mostly got these games through the years strictly for the SP aspect, have purchased every COD game since the very first, now that the emphasis is on MP with the SP as an after-thought I'm completely done, MW2 had a pretty good SP campaign and I was stoked to see where MW3 was going but it was sooo bad, I also looked forward to Black Ops since Treyarch did such a great job with World At War and they blew that too... I'm done, there's no hope for the series except for MP and I'm already too hooked with Battlefield MP to care for COD/MW MP.
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#29 chocolatesoda
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Oh look! Another pointless battle over two pointless video game franchises!

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#30 millerlight89
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That's okay, smart people will be playing a fantastic shooter. The others will be playing CoD
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#31 millerlight89
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Halo 4 looks like the biggest garbage I have ever seen.BangYongGuk
Garbage troll attempt is garbage. If it is the worst thing you have seen, then you need to find a different hobby.
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#32 superapo
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Halo 4 will $h!t on African American Ops

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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]What is microsoft thinking? In a november month, what makes them think 360 players are going to pick up halo 4 over a cod title? There is no FPS game that can compete with the quality and content that cod offers every year. I guess they are going to have to learn the hard way, just like EA did with battlefield 3. Im sure all of you will agree with me, halo 4 is setting itself up for a failure by launching in cod territory.wewantdoom4now
black ops 2 and halo 4 cant compete against doom4 they both ripped it off.

Err that isn't the debate, hater. Halo has come and gone, that popularity it once had isn't there no more, COD has taken the crown concerning FPS's. Sales have shown this.

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#34 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Even though I didn't like Black Ops, it atleast made some welcome changes to the franchise. Let's hope this brings in some more radical changes.

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#35 brucecambell
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halo cant compete with anything

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ps. both are crappy shooters anyway

free_milk

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#36 DireOwl
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multiplat > exclusive. Halo 4 will not sell as well as black ops 2, but I'd be willing to bet it will gain pretty hefty sales by itself.

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#37 Eponique
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Halo 3 outsold CoD4 so it's not like it's impossible.
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#38 Master_ShakeXXX
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What is microsoft thinking? In a november month, what makes them think 360 players are going to pick up halo 4 over a cod title? There is no FPS game that can compete with the quality and content that cod offers every year. I guess they are going to have to learn the hard way, just like EA did with battlefield 3. Im sure all of you will agree with me, halo 4 is setting itself up for a failure by launching in cod territory.Second_Hokage

What did EA have to learn? BF3 sold a sh*t ton.

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#39 Master_ShakeXXX
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Halo 3 outsold CoD4 so it's not like it's impossible.Eponique

Yeah it is. CoD's popularity has grown incredibly since 2007. The only way a Halo game could possibly outsell CoD is if it went multiplat. Aint gonna happen.

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#40 Joedgabe
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No game can compete with CoD in sales.. however people can buy both the games you know? MW3 sold soooo many copies that didn't stop the other big games from selling a good deal of copies also.

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#41 Wasdie  Moderator
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Halo Reach sold fine against CoD MW2.

Different audiences.

However, the new direction of Halo will not be good for the series.

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#42 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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What is microsoft thinking? In a november month, ***what makes them think 360 players are going to pick up halo 4 over a cod title?*** There is no FPS game that can compete with the quality and content that cod offers every year. I guess they are going to have to learn the hard way, just like EA did with battlefield 3. Im sure all of you will agree with me, halo 4 is setting itself up for a failure by launching in cod territory.Second_Hokage

Exactly the point right there. Halo is the best selling series on that platform. Sure COD will get its sales on all platforms, but 360 will still see a huge software attach rate on its exclusive title. There is no reason at all for 343i not to believe that 360 players will choose Halo 4 over COD. They have nothing to worry about at all.

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#43 Master_ShakeXXX
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Halo Reach sold fine against CoD MW2.

Wasdie

You mean Black Ops :P

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eh considering the fact halo is an exclusive game for the most part to the 360 then I doubt its worried about garnering wide sales only appealing to the halo fans on the xbox systems.

Really if halo were released on the ps3 I wonder how many sales it would get?

WilliamRLBaker

ALOT!!! cod games on ps3 outsells halo easily, modern warfare 3 is 12m on ps3 and 13.5m on xbox

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#45 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Halo Reach sold fine against CoD MW2.

Master_ShakeXXX

You mean Black Ops :P

Whatever.

Different markets.

Halo fans gonna buy Halo regardless of which CoD is out. Halo Reach is still played by a lot of people despite CoD and Battlefield 3 sucking up a lot of players.

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#46 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

eh considering the fact halo is an exclusive game for the most part to the 360 then I doubt its worried about garnering wide sales only appealing to the halo fans on the xbox systems.

Really if halo were released on the ps3 I wonder how many sales it would get?

Pikachu69er

ALOT!!! cod games on ps3 outsells halo easily, modern warfare 3 is 12m on ps3 and 13.5m on xbox

Of course PS3 gamers pick up more copies of COD. Halo isn't available on that platform. Halo 4 sales will be just fine as far as the only platform to carry it is concerned. And just FYI, Halo has always had consistent sales records of at least $100 million (going back to Halo 2), just within the first 24 hrs alone.

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kinda pisses me off nobody really talked about halo november 15th 2001 ONLINE.

but like a year after the game launched all the sudden its popular.

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#48 789shadow
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Maybe people will confuse it with Black Ops 2. It is Call of Duty: Space.

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#49 BPoole96
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I hope Halo 4 turns out really good and puts a major dent into CoD. I am so tired of that goddamn game and hearing everyone talk about it in real life all the time. A guy in my Disaster Management class swore that if there was a zombie outbreak he would fair off better than everyone else because of how much Nazi Zombies he had playedin Black Ops

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#50 turtlethetaffer
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Halo has ALWAYS sold well and it will continue to do so. The only reason Blops 2 will sell more is because multiplat.