Halo 4 ripped off Metroid Prime....in a good way.

It hit me, the level design, expecially the jungle and enemies..the vizor appearance is also similar...the entire footage looked like a metroid prime game with a graphical overall. I have no doubt 343 looked towards the franchise for some insperation in alien design and weaponary. I will say the graphics look amazing...guessing because of it, it will remain linear if not more so. I hope they don't pull a bungie and downgrade the game visually, come launch.

It hit me, the level design, expecially the jungle and enemies..the vizor appearance is also similar...the entire footage looked like a metroid prime game with a graphical overall. I have no doubt 343 looked towards the franchise for some insperation in alien design and weaponary. I will say the graphics look amazing...guessing because of it, it will remain linear if not more so. I hope they don't pull a bungie and downgrade the game visually, come launch.

soapandbubbles

agreed it looked amazing, thanks for being honest.. i see alot of cows lying to themselves since the trailer hit..

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It hit me, the level design, expecially the jungle and enemies..the vizor appearance is also similar...the entire footage looked like a metroid prime game with a graphical overall. I have no doubt 343 looked towards the franchise for some insperation in alien design and weaponary. I will say the graphics look amazing...guessing because of it, it will remain linear if not more so. I hope they don't pull a bungie and downgrade the game visually, come launch.

ForzaGearsFace

agreed it looked amazing, thanks for being honest.. i see alot of cows lying to themselves since the trailer hit..

I guess it did from the aesthetics side of it, and especially the enemy he reminded me of a Pirate from Metroid. But the general ebb and flow and structure of the game is still way to by the book FPS Halo. Honestly they should be borrowing that type of structure. A more open and larger environment where you're the chief. Maybe with some evolving abilities for his suit or his armory. I'm interested to see how the other enemy types fight(and I'm hoping there is a good chunk of new enemies, not like 5 new ones, and let's call it a day). 343 needs to avoid that Bungie plague of running out of ideas half way through the game.

Halo 4 does look good. Will be buying it. After skipping ODST, reach, and aniiversary i think this will be a good place to start again.

Only in enemies design. Level design likely won't be the same at all. Metroid Prime focused on exploration and that's not the case with Halo. Maybe that changed with Halo 4... would be nice.

As a huge Halo fan I was kinda worried about a non Bungie made Halo game but after watching that trailer I dont feel nearly as worried because it looked great and hopefully we get another great single player Halo game.

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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]

It hit me, the level design, expecially the jungle and enemies..the vizor appearance is also similar...the entire footage looked like a metroid prime game with a graphical overall. I have no doubt 343 looked towards the franchise for some insperation in alien design and weaponary. I will say the graphics look amazing...guessing because of it, it will remain linear if not more so. I hope they don't pull a bungie and downgrade the game visually, come launch.

ZoomZoom2490

agreed it looked amazing, thanks for being honest.. i see alot of cows lying to themselves since the trailer hit..

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]

It hit me, the level design, expecially the jungle and enemies..the vizor appearance is also similar...the entire footage looked like a metroid prime game with a graphical overall. I have no doubt 343 looked towards the franchise for some insperation in alien design and weaponary. I will say the graphics look amazing...guessing because of it, it will remain linear if not more so. I hope they don't pull a bungie and downgrade the game visually, come launch.

ForzaGearsFace

agreed it looked amazing, thanks for being honest.. i see alot of cows lying to themselves since the trailer hit..

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]

It hit me, the level design, expecially the jungle and enemies..the vizor appearance is also similar...the entire footage looked like a metroid prime game with a graphical overall. I have no doubt 343 looked towards the franchise for some insperation in alien design and weaponary. I will say the graphics look amazing...guessing because of it, it will remain linear if not more so. I hope they don't pull a bungie and downgrade the game visually, come launch.

ForzaGearsFace

agreed it looked amazing, thanks for being honest.. i see alot of cows lying to themselves since the trailer hit..

I thought that weird new enemy looked exactly like a space pirate from metroid prime which was a little disconcerting. Also those smaller enemies reminded me of creatures in MP3. It does look pretty though.

Well there are ex-retro staff at 343 now.RR360DD

This will be much better than the metroid prime games though. RR360DD

Every game nowadays has to have ripped off another game/studio in some way, shape, or form. The developer couldn't have just come up with the idea because they thought it would work well in that situation.

to me it looks like Lost Planet, but with downgraded graphics.ZoomZoom2490

I thought that weird new enemy looked exactly like a space pirate from metroid prime which was a little disconcerting. Also those smaller enemies reminded me of creatures in MP3. It does look pretty though.

John_Coffey

The enemies designs looked a little familiar, but I wouldnt go that far.gamefan67

Not identical I will concede, the space pirate model is more organic, but in motion you can understand the recognition.

They didn't rip off Metroid Prime. It looks similar because that's pretty much the template for science fiction.FrozenLiquid

I haven't watched any footage. All I've seen is the pics posted above. And that is a rip off. Creature design for sci fi has literally unlimited range, yet in the above pics they hardly managed to break the silhouette and primary forms and even some of the secondary forms fall in the same. Breaking away from another design at the tertiary level does very little to change the overall design.

I would get my ass handed to me if I tried to pass that off as an original design to any of my clients. Far too many similarities between the two.

So far Halo 4 is the game of the show but I have to admit the Tomb Raider demo impressed the hell out of me.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]They didn't rip off Metroid Prime. It looks similar because that's pretty much the template for science fiction.sandbox3d

I haven't watched any footage. All I've seen is the pics posted above. And that is a rip off. Creature design for sci fi has literally unlimited range, yet in the above pics they hardly managed to break the silhouette and primary forms and even some of the secondary forms fall in the same. Breaking away from another design at the tertiary level does very little to change the overall design.

I would get my ass handed to me if I tried to pass that off as an original design to any of my clients. Far too many similarities between the two.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]They didn't rip off Metroid Prime. It looks similar because that's pretty much the template for science fiction.sandbox3d

I haven't watched any footage. All I've seen is the pics posted above. And that is a rip off. Creature design for sci fi has literally unlimited range, yet in the above pics they hardly managed to break the silhouette and primary forms and even some of the secondary forms fall in the same. Breaking away from another design at the tertiary level does very little to change the overall design.

I would get my ass handed to me if I tried to pass that off as an original design to any of my clients. Far too many similarities between the two.

I could be wrong but isnt there guys who were part of the prime team working on the game as well?

Metroid Prime as awesome so I would not complain if 343 took ideas from it.

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]They didn't rip off Metroid Prime. It looks similar because that's pretty much the template for science fiction.FrozenLiquid

I haven't watched any footage. All I've seen is the pics posted above. And that is a rip off. Creature design for sci fi has literally unlimited range, yet in the above pics they hardly managed to break the silhouette and primary forms and even some of the secondary forms fall in the same. Breaking away from another design at the tertiary level does very little to change the overall design.

I would get my ass handed to me if I tried to pass that off as an original design to any of my clients. Far too many similarities between the two.

I wouldn't look to DeviantArt as any sort of standard lol.

And you would be hired only if the the one calling the shots is..

1. Unaware of the original piece.

2. Not familiar with design tenets

3. Not one to give a f*ck.

I know it happens unintentionally. I found myself sculpting out a design about a month back and realized I was basically sculpting the damn Rankor from Star Wars. Had to go back to the thumbs process and get my ideas in check. Its all too easy to be influenced by what has come before, but it is part of your job as a designer to to realize that and take the necessary steps. Sometimes you need a fresh pair of eyes to look at your work and tell you that you've basically copied something else.

But really man, Deviant Art? :lol:

Look to guys like Jordu Schell, Cesar Dacol Jr, John Brown, Grassetti, Pointpusher (forgot his real name), Scott Spencer, Feng Zhu, Zack Petroc, etc...

There are some fine pieces of work on DA, don't get me wrong, but for the most part its a playground and hardly the place to hold up as some sort of authority regarding character and creature design.

It hit me, the level design, expecially the jungle and enemies..the vizor appearance is also similar...the entire footage looked like a metroid prime game with a graphical overall. I have no doubt 343 looked towards the franchise for some insperation in alien design and weaponary. I will say the graphics look amazing...guessing because of it, it will remain linear if not more so. I hope they don't pull a bungie and downgrade the game visually, come launch.

soapandbubbles

Well there are ex-retro staff at 343 now. This will be much better than the metroid prime games though. RR360DD

theres one guy from retro at 343....and it looks nothing like metroid

it looks like halo and a good one at that people take the two ppl that left retro(well 1) way too serious. 343 is a pretty big team and one guy i highly doubt put much emphasis to make it seem like metroid

It hit me, the level design, expecially the jungle and enemies..the vizor appearance is also similar...the entire footage looked like a metroid prime game with a graphical overall. I have no doubt 343 looked towards the franchise for some insperation in alien design and weaponary. I will say the graphics look amazing...guessing because of it, it will remain linear if not more so. I hope they don't pull a bungie and downgrade the game visually, come launch.

soapandbubbles

Well there are ex-retro staff at 343 now. This will be much better than the metroid prime games though. RR360DD

It didn't look like a rip off, but damn it looks inspired and very well made. The only Halo games that grabbed me were the first and ODST.

Actually, the visor thing that Chief did in the Halo 4 footage reminded me of the X-Ray visor straight away when I saw it, lol, but meh.

Looks good, wasn't expecting it.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I haven't watched any footage. All I've seen is the pics posted above. And that is a rip off. Creature design for sci fi has literally unlimited range, yet in the above pics they hardly managed to break the silhouette and primary forms and even some of the secondary forms fall in the same. Breaking away from another design at the tertiary level does very little to change the overall design.

I would get my ass handed to me if I tried to pass that off as an original design to any of my clients. Far too many similarities between the two.

sandbox3d

I wouldn't look to DeviantArt as any sort of standard lol.

And you would be hired only if the the one calling the shots is..

1. Unaware of the original piece.

2. Not familiar with design tenets

3. Not one to give a f*ck.

I know it happens unintentionally. I found myself sculpting out a design about a month back and realized I was basically sculpting the damn Rankor from Star Wars. Had to go back to the thumbs process and get my ideas in check. Its all too easy to be influenced by what has come before, but it is part of your job as a designer to to realize that and take the necessary steps. Sometimes you need a fresh pair of eyes to look at your work and tell you that you've basically copied something else.

But really man, Deviant Art? :lol:

Look to guys like Jordu Schell, Cesar Dacol Jr, John Brown, Grassetti, Pointpusher (forgot his real name), Scott Spencer, Feng Zhu, Zack Petroc, etc...

There are some fine pieces of work on DA, don't get me wrong, but for the most part its a playground and hardly the place to hold up as some sort of authority regarding character and creature design.

[QUOTE="gamefan67"]The enemies designs looked a little familiar, but I wouldnt go that far.John_Coffey

Not identical I will concede, the space pirate model is more organic, but in motion you can understand the recognition.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]They didn't rip off Metroid Prime. It looks similar because that's pretty much the template for science fiction.sandbox3d

I haven't watched any footage. All I've seen is the pics posted above. And that is a rip off. Creature design for sci fi has literally unlimited range, yet in the above pics they hardly managed to break the silhouette and primary forms and even some of the secondary forms fall in the same. Breaking away from another design at the tertiary level does very little to change the overall design.

I would get my ass handed to me if I tried to pass that off as an original design to any of my clients. Far too many similarities between the two.