Halo being milked? What about every other game out there?

The phrase "Halo is being milked" is being thrown around more and more lately. Now, I suppose that's not entirely inaccurate, but seriously, we're going to talk about Halo being milked??? I've said it before, and I'll say it again, bungie Halos have maintained a level of quality throughout all ofthe games (so far all AAA). There are a lot of other games that are milked far worse. Just to put this in perspective.

Halo 2001-2010 9 years = 6 games

Resistance 2006-2010 4 years =3 games(probably a 4th next year)

Ratchet and Clank 2002-2010 8 years = 8 games (PS2, PS3, PSP)

Jak and Daxter 2001-2010 9 years = 6 games (PS2 and PSP)

Metal Gear Solid 2001-2010 9 years =8 games (NOT INCLUDING RE-RELEASES like Subsistence and Substance etc.)

Call of Duty 2001-20109 years = 10 games (7 main ones, and 3 spinoffs being Big Red One, Finest Hour, and a PSP game) I'm excluding the fact that DS versions and Wii Versions have been made (which I think were a bitdifferent)

Grand Theft Auto 2001-2010 9 years = 8 games (including the 2 expansions as games, also including PSP games)

Mario 2002-2010 8 years = SMS, SMG, SMG2, NSMB DS, NSMB Wii, Mario kart GC, Mario Kart DS, Paper Mario GC, Paper Mario Wii, Sonic and Mario at Olympic games, Mario Party games, Mario 3 on 3 hoops, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Soccer game, Mario Baseball, NUMEROUS DS games I'm not counting...bottum line, I'm too lazy to list all of them, as it would take forever.

Even God of War 2005-2010 5 years = 4 games (including psp version but NOT gow collection remakes)

Dead Space 2008-20102 years = 3 games (including wii version)

Assassin's Creed2007-2010 3 years = 5 games (look up DS and PSP versions)

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MANY EXAMPLES I CAN COME UP WITH. HALO IS HARDLY WORTH MENTIONING WHEN IT COMES TO BEING "MILKED"

The phrase "Halo is being milked" is being thrown around more and more lately. Now, I suppose that's not entirely inaccurate, but seriously, we're going to talk about Halo being milked??? I've said it before, and I'll say it again, bungie Halos have maintained a level of quality throughout all ofthe games (so far all AAA). There are a lot of other games that are milked far worse. Just to put this in perspective.

Halo 2001-2010 9 years = 6 games

Resistance 2006-2010 4 years =3 games(probably a 4th next year)

Ratchet and Clank 2002-2010 8 years = 8 games (PS2, PS3, PSP)

Jak and Daxter 2001-2010 9 years = 6 games (PS2 and PSP)

Metal Gear Solid 2001-2010 9 years =8 games (NOT INCLUDING RE-RELEASES like Subsistence and Substance etc.)

Call of Duty 2001-20109 years = 10 games (7 main ones, and 3 spinoffs being Big Red One, Finest Hour, and a PSP game) I'm excluding the fact that DS versions and Wii Versions have been made (which I think were a bitdifferent)

Grand Theft Auto 2001-2010 9 years = 8 games (including the 2 expansions as games, also including PSP games)

Mario 2002-2010 8 years = SMS, SMG, SMG2, NSMB DS, NSMB Wii, Mario kart GC, Mario Kart DS, Paper Mario GC, Paper Mario Wii, Sonic and Mario at Olympic games, Mario Party games, Mario 3 on 3 hoops, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Soccer game, Mario Baseball, NUMEROUS DS games I'm not counting...bottum line, I'm too lazy to list all of them, as it would take forever.

Even God of War 2005-2010 5 years = 4 games (including psp version but NOT gow collection remakes)

Dead Space 2008-20102 years = 3 games (including wii version)

Assassin's Creed2007-2010 3 years = 5 games (look up DS and PSP versions)

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MANY EXAMPLES I CAN COME UP WITH. HALO IS HARDLY WORTH MENTIONING WHEN IT COMES TO BEING "MILKED"

RobbRipken

IMO, it's not the amount of sequels that makes a series milked but it's when the sequels are terrible games where the dev's just sorta called it in and sell a bad product on good name recognition. That hasn't even come close to happening with Halo.

You have a good point, sir

personnaly i think a game has to become a yearly franchise to be accused of being milked. one very 2 or 3 years IS NOT milking.

Just for the record, I think most of the games I put on that list are good games. I'm just trying to make a point. The arguement just seems stupid that Halo is being milked. The only thing about Halo that I think is out of control is the comics and movies and stuff. The BUNGIE games (which is the only thing that should matter here on SW) have been high in quality.

personnaly i think a game has to become a yearly franchise to be accused of being milked. one very 2 or 3 years IS NOT milking.

dog_dirt

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personnaly i think a game has to become a yearly franchise to be accused of being milked. one very 2 or 3 years IS NOT milking.

SpiritOfFire117

IMO, it's not the amount of sequels that makes a series milked but it's when the sequels are terrible games where the dev's just sorta called it in and sell a bad product on good name recognition. That hasn't even come close to happening with Halo.

SecretPolice

personnaly i think a game has to become a yearly franchise to be accused of being milked. one very 2 or 3 years IS NOT milking.

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IMO, it's not the amount of sequels that makes a series milked but it's when the sequels are terrible games where the dev's just sorta called it in and sell a bad product on good name recognition. That hasn't even come close to happening with Halo.

Vandalvideo

I can understand where you're coming from. I think that logic is fairly reasonable for the most part. However, by that logic, every one of those games I just mentioned is being milked. A lot of people on SW seem to think that Halo is being milked and that ONLY Halo is being milked.

IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

IMO, it's not the amount of sequels that makes a series milked but it's when the sequels are terrible games where the dev's just sorta called it in and sell a bad product on good name recognition. That hasn't even come close to happening with Halo.

Vandalvideo

:P

IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

Shenmue_Jehuty

IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

Shenmue_Jehuty

FPS and RTS equals every conceivable genre?

What about Mario lol. Kart Racing, sports, party, fighting (Smash bros), platforming, platforming while made of paper

I do have to admit, DDR with MC would be hilarious lol. Also, I think M$ is the one making the money off of Halo Wars, not Bungie.

I have no problem with the milking of games. There are games I want to play, so what should I tell the companies "Stop making games I want to play".

Isn't GOW collection just a prime example of milkage?

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IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

SpiritOfFire117

I was joking, but my point was that Bungie is going to strangle out every possible penny out of Halo fanboys, even if they do have to result to making DDR Halo and Halo Puzzle League.

They are all being milked as well, there. ^^

I have no problem with the milking of games. There are games I want to play, so what should I tell the companies "Stop making games I want to play".

HarlockJC

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IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

I was joking, but my point was that Bungie is going to strangle out every possible penny out of Halo fanboys, even if they do have to result to making DDR Halo and Halo Puzzle League.

Many games/series are milked. Whether they are milked well differentiates them. Halo has a list of solid games in it's repertoire, along with series like MGS, Mario, Final Fantasy etc.

I think milkage depends on consumer interest tbh. For example, Metal Gear, Halo, and god Of War are not milked, while (as much as i love it) Ratchet and clank and mario are. When you begin to have R&C future....a space thing, and mario soccer....its time to hang it up

EDIT: Sonic must die!

I don't see how anyone can complain about Halo being milked,they're great games.Don't people like great games anymore?!

What about those milkers over at insomniac games pimping their trash every year. 3 Mehsistance games in the last 3 years? And the series is not even anywhere close to being teh PS3's best shooter.

Then you have the R&C series.ACIT being,what, the 20th game in the series? :roll:.I mean that series stopped being fun in 2004.

Final Fantasy gets milked alot as well.

IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

Shenmue_Jehuty

What if MS and Activision made "Guitar Halo", and took the milkage to the next level? :P

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IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

mythrol

Maybe not, but there intention of throwing the Halo name on something to make a butt load of money was clear. Movie production companies do it, publishers do it, and the gaming industry is no different.

What if MS and Activision made "Guitar Halo", and took the milkage to the next level? :P

furomaster_99

I think people complain about Halo being milked has more to do with this year's release of Halo Wars and ODST, neither of which are true sequels like most of the other "milked" series.

IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

Shenmue_Jehuty

First of all, no one is being "forced" to buy the Halo games. We believe the games are honestly good and worth it. Second, why would you want a popular series to end ? It's bad enough most games coming out now a days are so boring and unoriginal. If we ended series and franchises after the sequel we'd be left with a rather disappointing industry with lackluster titles. Halo has never really varied from the first one, and the first one was excellent.

Isn't GOW collection just a prime example of milkage?

DoomZaW

Is it? Gamers have been begging for HD enchanced rereleases of their favourite games for years.

[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

AdjacentLives

First of all, no one is being "forced" to buy the Halo games. We believe the games are honestly good and worth it. Second, why would you want a popular series to end ? It's bad enough most games coming out now a days are so boring and unoriginal. If we ended series and franchises after the sequel we'd be left with a rather disappointing industry with lackluster titles. Halo has never really varied from the first one, and the first one was excellent.

But that's just it, Halo has become boring and unoriginal. Sure new elements are thrown into the new releases, but you still fundamentally have the same game. Look, I've posted on this thread way too much and I personally am biased against this game; I can't stand it anymore. Not only that, but with the release of each new Halo branded title I feel like Bungie and MS are doing whatever they can to milk the consumer of their cash. Yes, it comes down to the consumer choosing to buy the game, but I don't think that excuses Bungie from sacrificing any integrity it may have had to release a game that I feel I have already played, or some offshoot that is a sad attempt at simply just making more money. If you enjoy it fantastic, but I think Halo is just ridiculous at this point.

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Isn't GOW collection just a prime example of milkage?

Gxgear

Is it? Gamers have been begging for HD enchanced rereleases of their favourite games for years.

they only made GOW collection cuz they screwed us out of b/c

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[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

Isn't GOW collection just a prime example of milkage?

johnnyblazed88

Is it? Gamers have been begging for HD enchanced rereleases of their favourite games for years.

they only made GOW collection cuz they screwed us out of b/c

If that were true, then wouldn't they be re-releasing a lot of different series with enhanced graphics?

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[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]

IMO Halo is especially one of those games that is being milked. I think it is one thing for a game to be so good that a sequel is very well deserved, and then it is another for generic sci-fi shooters whose prime was over 5 years ago to be made into sequels of every conceivable genre. What's next, Dance Dance Revolution Master Chief Moves? Games like Halo Wars were made just so the guys at Bungie could buy that brand new BMW that the CEO that lives across the street from them bought.

First of all, no one is being "forced" to buy the Halo games. We believe the games are honestly good and worth it. Second, why would you want a popular series to end ? It's bad enough most games coming out now a days are so boring and unoriginal. If we ended series and franchises after the sequel we'd be left with a rather disappointing industry with lackluster titles. Halo has never really varied from the first one, and the first one was excellent.

But that's just it, Halo has become boring and unoriginal. Sure new elements are thrown into the new releases, but you still fundamentally have the same game. Look, I've posted on this thread way too much and I personally am biased against this game; I can't stand it anymore. Not only that, but with the release of each new Halo branded title I feel like Bungie and MS are doing whatever they can to milk the consumer of their cash. Yes, it comes down to the consumer choosing to buy the game, but I don't think that excuses Bungie from sacrificing any integrity it may have had to release a game that I feel I have already played, or some offshoot that is a sad attempt at simply just making more money. If you enjoy it fantastic, but I think Halo is just ridiculous at this point.

Call of Duty is actually the most milked franchise on that list. Mario is second obvously. Halo is coming close to being milked however.DragonfireXZ95

The phrase "Halo is being milked" is being thrown around more and more lately. Now, I suppose that's not entirely inaccurate, but seriously, we're going to talk about Halo being milked??? I've said it before, and I'll say it again, bungie Halos have maintained a level of quality throughout all ofthe games (so far all AAA). There are a lot of other games that are milked far worse. Just to put this in perspective.

Halo 2001-2010 9 years = 6 games

Resistance 2006-2010 4 years =3 games(probably a 4th next year)

Ratchet and Clank 2002-2010 8 years = 8 games (PS2, PS3, PSP)

Jak and Daxter 2001-2010 9 years = 6 games (PS2 and PSP)

Metal Gear Solid 2001-2010 9 years =8 games (NOT INCLUDING RE-RELEASES like Subsistence and Substance etc.)

Call of Duty 2001-20109 years = 10 games (7 main ones, and 3 spinoffs being Big Red One, Finest Hour, and a PSP game) I'm excluding the fact that DS versions and Wii Versions have been made (which I think were a bitdifferent)

Grand Theft Auto 2001-2010 9 years = 8 games (including the 2 expansions as games, also including PSP games)

Mario 2002-2010 8 years = SMS, SMG, SMG2, NSMB DS, NSMB Wii, Mario kart GC, Mario Kart DS, Paper Mario GC, Paper Mario Wii, Sonic and Mario at Olympic games, Mario Party games, Mario 3 on 3 hoops, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Soccer game, Mario Baseball, NUMEROUS DS games I'm not counting...bottum line, I'm too lazy to list all of them, as it would take forever.

Even God of War 2005-2010 5 years = 4 games (including psp version but NOT gow collection remakes)

Dead Space 2008-20102 years = 3 games (including wii version)

Assassin's Creed2007-2010 3 years = 5 games (look up DS and PSP versions)

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MANY EXAMPLES I CAN COME UP WITH. HALO IS HARDLY WORTH MENTIONING WHEN IT COMES TO BEING "MILKED"

RobbRipken

Maybe not, but there intention of throwing the Halo name on something to make a butt load of money was clear. Movie production companies do it, publishers do it, and the gaming industry is no different.

Shenmue_Jehuty

They are all being milked as well, there. ^^ [QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I have no problem with the milking of games. There are games I want to play, so what should I tell the companies "Stop making games I want to play".

Dystopian-X

of course halo is milked, its all MS really has in the stable. InfiniteBlak

I don't think people actually straight out say that Halo us being milked right now. It's just that games like Halo wars, ODST and Reach even thought they are great could seen as the start of the Halo milkage.

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]of course halo is milked, its all MS really has in the stable. Doctor-McNinja

Gears is Epic not MS.