*Halo Killer* : What A Game Needs To Do / Have In Order To Earn That Title?

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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is there a measurable qualification for such title?

I mean, is it safe to assume, for instance, Gears as a Halo killer becuase it knocked it out from XBL top 1 spot?

or a game needs to do more than that to earn the title of Halo killer?

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u mean when it comes to something exclusive

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#3 musicalmac  Moderator
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Two things: A.) It NEEDS to be on the 360. B.) It needs to be more popular on XBL. That's it.
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#4 MADVLAD123
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It also needs a big guy in Green Armor.

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#5 HoldThePhone
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nothing. I'm assuming it has to be a console game and sell more than Halo, because several PC FPSs killed Halo before it came out.
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#6 Raidea
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Be a better game than Halo.
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#7 ringuzi
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but you have to remember that gears beat a two year old game from the top spot on xbox live, and mearly the halo 3 beta probably beat gears of war less than six months later.
a game has to be better than and more popular than halo to be a halo killer.
im quite sure that no game has done that, and no game is going to do it for a while, halo 3 will be amazing
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Two things: A.) It NEEDS to be on the 360. B.) It needs to be more popular on XBL. That's it.musicalmac

agreed but 1 more

C)Needs an awesome multi-player experience that no game has delievered and is fun like hell.

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It needs to not call itself a Halo Killer, for starters.
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#10 HoldThePhone
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Two things: A.) It NEEDS to be on the 360. B.) It needs to be more popular on XBL. That's it.Conjuredevil

agreed but 1 more

C)Needs an awesome multi-player experience that no game has delievered and is fun like hell.

and this is where i start to wonder if anyone has heard of PC gaming on SW...

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#11 cyprus646
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is there a measurable qualification for such title?

I mean, is it safe to assume, for instance, Gears as a Halo killer becuase it knocked it out from XBL top 1 spot?

or a game needs to do more than that to earn the title of Halo killer?

Mystery_Writer
Gears knocking a game released 2 years before off the xbl ladder isnt all that special and I dont think there will ever be a "halo killer" because halo did so many things right that for ther to be a killer they would have to surpass it in all aspects. Kinda like what GTA 3 did to the sereis you had many knock-off's (true crimes scarface godfather) but non of them did it as good as GTA 3
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#12 Raidea
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Two things: A.) It NEEDS to be on the 360. B.) It needs to be more popular on XBL. That's it.musicalmac

I don't think it needs to be on the 360, but it does need to have a community as large and committed as Halo 2 does.

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#13 Conjuredevil
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[QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Two things: A.) It NEEDS to be on the 360. B.) It needs to be more popular on XBL. That's it.HoldThePhone

agreed but 1 more

C)Needs an awesome multi-player experience that no game has delievered and is fun like hell.

and this is where i start to wonder if anyone has heard of PC gaming on SW...

Well we are toking about 360 for the moment read the A) point he mentioned then try to argue.

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#14 TekkenMaster606
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It needs to be named Half-Life 2. With or without the word 'Episode' at the end.

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#15 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Two things: A.) It NEEDS to be on the 360. B.) It needs to be more popular on XBL. That's it.Conjuredevil

agreed but 1 more

C)Needs an awesome multi-player experience that no game has delievered and is fun like hell.

Agree. I suppose I stuck that under my second point ;)
[QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Two things: A.) It NEEDS to be on the 360. B.) It needs to be more popular on XBL. That's it.HoldThePhone

agreed but 1 more

C)Needs an awesome multi-player experience that no game has delievered and is fun like hell.

and this is where i start to wonder if anyone has heard of PC gaming on SW...

Honestly, we get it. There are bunches of games on the computer. That's great. Too bad it has nothing to do with the thread :|

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Two things: A.) It NEEDS to be on the 360. B.) It needs to be more popular on XBL. That's it.Raidea

I don't think it needs to be on the 360, but it does need to have a community as large and committed as Halo 2 does.

The reason I say it has to be on the 360 is because you have to be able to play that instead of Halo. A PS3 game can't kill Halo, because 360 owners wouldn't be able to play it anyway. Thusly- they'd stick with Halo.
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#16 DrCoCoPiMp
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Be a better game than Halo.Raidea

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#17 naval
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Be more casual friendly than halo :P

Seriously speaking better story and multiplayer ( based on this halo has already been killed on the pc)

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#18 Mystery_Writer
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It needs to be named Half-Life 2. With or without the word 'Episode' at the end.

TekkenMaster606

so you think Orange Box would do it when it comes out on X360? i.e. earn the title?

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#19 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

It needs to be named Half-Life 2. With or without the word 'Episode' at the end.

Mystery_Writer

so you think Orange Box would do it when it comes out on X360? i.e. earn the title?

Nope. Not really Half-Life's target platform. And in all reality, it has earned that title on the PC. Valve confirmed that Half-Life and games built around that game and engine have sold 15-million units. Not to mention that critical acclaim worldwide.

Remember, 2004's best shooter was Half-Life 2.

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#20 Mystery_Writer
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

It needs to be named Half-Life 2. With or without the word 'Episode' at the end.

TekkenMaster606

so you think Orange Box would do it when it comes out on X360? i.e. earn the title?

Nope. Not really Half-Life's target platform. And in all reality, it has earned that title on the PC. Valve confirmed that Half-Life and games built around that game and engine have sold 15-million units. Not to mention that critical acclaim worldwide.

Remember, 2004's best shooter was Half-Life 2.

but wasn't half life 2 (and counter strike) also on xbox 1?

why it didn't earn that title back then if it was better?

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#21 whocares4peace
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To be touted as a Halo killer, it needs to be an exclusive FPS/TPS for any console
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#22 wallpaper42
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By system war's standards, if a game is better than Halo then it is NOT a Halo killer. It has to be way more popular than Halo which is going to take FOREVER. Halo is actually a pretty generic sci-fi shooter that offered nicegraphics andgood quality gameplaybut is extremely popular among everybody. I don't even know how it happend... But I don't think we'll see a Halo killer anytime soon, it's pretty much up there with Mario in being one of the biggest video game icons of all time.

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#23 HoldThePhone
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

It needs to be named Half-Life 2. With or without the word 'Episode' at the end.

Mystery_Writer

so you think Orange Box would do it when it comes out on X360? i.e. earn the title?

Nope. Not really Half-Life's target platform. And in all reality, it has earned that title on the PC. Valve confirmed that Half-Life and games built around that game and engine have sold 15-million units. Not to mention that critical acclaim worldwide.

Remember, 2004's best shooter was Half-Life 2.

but wasn't half life 2 (and counter strike) also on xbox 1?

why it didn't earn that title back then if it was better?

stop talking...if you have any idea what HL and counter-strike is, you would know that the console ports are terribad.

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#24 redandblack23
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Halo is a pretty cool game ..but i think its overrated...thisyearthe 360 has games like mass effect and bioshock... but most of the hype is going to halo 3..WTF...IMO mass effect>bioshock>>>>>halo 3
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#25 redandblack23
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To be touted as a Halo killer, it needs to be an exclusive FPS/TPS for any consolewhocares4peace
lol you mean any exclusive shooter is a halo killer?
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#26 Fyper
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Most known FPS games are better then Halo. So I know; it has to be more casual and hyped then Halo. It doesn't have to be good, just as it's hyped more, it's a Halo Killer.
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#27 l-_-l
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is there a measurable qualification for such title?

I mean, is it safe to assume, for instance, Gears as a Halo killer becuase it knocked it out from XBL top 1 spot?

or a game needs to do more than that to earn the title of Halo killer?

Mystery_Writer
This a console only thing? If not, there are already plenty of "halo" killers. Halo is nothing more than a average FPS for the PC.
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#28 musicalmac  Moderator
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How about we see less, "Most PC FPS games are better than Halo" and more explanation as to why. That is what this thread is about. What makes it a "Halo killer"? Though, I would contend that no PC shooter can kill Halo. 360 owners can't play every PC shooter on their console!! How can it possibly kill Halo?
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but wasn't half life 2 (and counter strike) also on xbox 1?

why it didn't earn that title back then if it was better?

Mystery_Writer

They were ports, and suffered from some technical issues not in the originals. Half-Life 2 for Xbox had no multiplayer, and by the time the CS port arrived, it'd already been out for something like 4 or 5 years on the PC. For free.

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It needs to be named Half-Life 2. With or without the word 'Episode' at the end.

TekkenMaster606
Exactly
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#31 Mystery_Writer
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How about we see less, "Most PC FPS games are better than Halo" and more explanation as to why. That is what this thread is about. What makes it a "Halo killer"? Though, I would contend that no PC shooter can kill Halo. 360 owners can't play every PC shooter on their console!! How can it possibly kill Halo?musicalmac

thank you

also, obviously there might be different standards on consoles, hence HL2 and Counter strike on xbox1 was merely a blimp in the console's lifespan.

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#32 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]How about we see less, "Most PC FPS games are better than Halo" and more explanation as to why. That is what this thread is about. What makes it a "Halo killer"? Though, I would contend that no PC shooter can kill Halo. 360 owners can't play every PC shooter on their console!! How can it possibly kill Halo?Mystery_Writer

thank you

also, obviously there might be different standards on consoles, hence HL2 and Counter strike on xbox1 was merely a blimp in the console's lifespan.

I would continue by saying that most PC exclusive FPS fall fare behind Halo when it comes to story.
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#33 elite_ferns1
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no game will beat halo is popularity because halo is not like other games. It is a perfect balance of hardcore action hardcore gamers love and easy to pick up controls that casuals enjoy. Halo is this gen (12-17 year olds) counterstrike. And with halo 3's insane buzz, i predict halo will once again dominate the xbl throne.