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#1 Walker34
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I was pleased with what this game is going to feature and how it looks. It seems like a completely new halo to me. A really involved campaign mode in what they say is the biggest environment they've ever had in a halo game. It's also a very different setting and story and has a different feel to it. The graphics look updated quite a bit. You basically get all halo 3 multiplayer maps updated for odst, plus the downloadable ones and firefight which is like horde mode in gears 2. It's not halo 4, but it is more than I was expecting. I would go as far to say Halo ODST is not an expansion. It expands on the halo universe but it's a standalone game.

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#2 ArisShadows
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Sounds like a standalone expansion to me.
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#3 Slambo86
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LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.
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#4 o0_L0st_B0y_0o
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i thought the reaction it got at the confrence was very luke warm, the crowd didnt seem pumped for that or H:R. I must say after seeing a vid for it i wasnt shift into thinking anythingmore thant his game bein average

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#5 walkingdream
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Looks great, but it is just an expansion..... Great reactions from people who played it though, they said it played more like Halo 1
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#6 Walker34
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LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Slambo86

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

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#7 II_Seraphim_II
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expansion or not, Im looking forward to it!
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#8 walkingdream
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i thought the reaction it got at the confrence was very luke warm, the crowd didnt seem pumped for that or H:R. I must say after seeing a vid for it i wasnt shift into thinking anythingmore thant his game bein average

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None of them were apart of main storyline.... Its like trying to show a trailer for Halo wars and expecting a massive reaction
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#9 o0_L0st_B0y_0o
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i thought the reaction it got at the confrence was very luke warm, the crowd didnt seem pumped for that or H:R. I must say after seeing a vid for it i wasnt shift into thinking anythingmore thant his game bein average

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None of them were apart of main storyline.... Its like trying to show a trailer for Halo wars and expecting a massive reaction

It is still halo is it not? you would think any halo fps would get a good reaction, whether it is based on the storyline or not. Just like Mario, Zelda or Metroid games because its what they are.

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#10 Xander818
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Sad that is just an expansion, even worse is that is going to be 60 bucks (correct me if im wrong but that is what I understood by "Full retail value")

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#11 Slambo86
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Walker34

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

so its just a graphics thing....well in that case you're dead wrong, IMO..the graphics look bad and only show the aged engine. animations are still the same, character models while detailed still have the same art and just overall look. Envrioments are bland as ever. I see no real improvements. going by the vids.
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#12 Walker34
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[QUOTE="Walker34"]

[QUOTE="Slambo86"]LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Slambo86

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

so its just a graphics thing....well in that case you're dead wrong, IMO..the graphics look bad and only show the aged engine. animations are still the same, character models while detailed still have the same art and just overall look. Envrioments are bland as ever. I see no real improvements. going by the vids.

not at all. the campaign is huge and is taking a totally different angle. plus firefight. It's not just graphics. I just look at the complete package and think it's it's own game. If you say you see no improvements you are blind. Watch halo 3 vids and look at odst and tell me it doesn't look quite a bit better.

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#13 Corvan
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You can consider it a expansion all you like, but the fact is, its a different storyline with new characters. Same world just different people. Im looking forward to it to see how it plays out. Also seeing it from someone elses view instead of the master chief is a nice change.

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i thought the reaction it got at the confrence was very luke warm, the crowd didnt seem pumped for that or H:R. I must say after seeing a vid for it i wasnt shift into thinking anythingmore thant his game bein average

o0_L0st_B0y_0o

How exactly are you gaging crowd reaction? Just because the crowd wasn't cheering at every laughable announcement like at sony's, doesn't mean they weren't excited.

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#15 xYamatox
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I am excited Halo ODST, and I have never been excited about a Halo game before. For one reason only: New character, means new story. Master Chief is probably THE dumbest character in video game history, and Halo 1-3's story is just bad.

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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Walker34

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

It uses the same engine as halo 3 so it can't look much better which is sad since halo 3 looks like **** even by the standards when it was released. I'm sorry, i like my xbox 360 as much as my ps3 or more and i play halo 3 often but its graphics aren't it strong point. Anyway, i feel cheated by bungie who wants me to pay 60 bucks for something which is clearly an expansion for a game with mediocre graphics, it should cost at most 30. I look foward to games such as alan wake and forza 3, halo odst not so much.

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#18 angelkimne
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It costs full price and has it's own 1750 achievements, it's a full game. And I don't think people should assume that just because we got some new info, we know everything about the game. Bungie always have a few more tricks up their sleeve.
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#19 mcgreddy
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The graphics,gameplay...almost everything from the E3`s footage looked exactly the same as all the old Halos.When in the world is Halo going to do something revolutionary or creative ?

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#20 beekayjay
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The gametrailer HD clips looked embarrassingly dated. I love to hate on Halo, but seriously, even I felt bad for the game.
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#21 RM84x
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I have Zero interest in another Halo game. Im sick of the franchise.
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#22 whatisazerg
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LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Slambo86

Why do people like you always need to comment on things they are uninformed about. You obviously didn't watch any interviews or read any articles about HALO ODST, so why give your uneducated opinion about it.... you could have just said I don't like Halo and I don't see my opinion changing with this one.... at least you would have made sense, and not come off as a fanboy.

Anyway, now that that's out of the way. Halo ODST from what I've gathered from info @ E3, is that the main Hub World is open ala. GTA, Infamous etc. and you find objects throughout the city, that will throw you into the shoes of the ODST who that item is connected to.... like the "Bridge lvl" they showed.... the ODST found the remains of the charge in the city and then it cuts away to (and you play) what happened there only hours b4 you arrived.... showing you basically what happened to a number of different ODST's that were seperated during the drop.

Also the idea of having the City AI assist you is a neat idea also....

I gotta disagree with the TC on 1 thing though..... graphics look the same to me. Not a complaint, just an observation.

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Yeah, I have to agree: I'm a PS3 owner, and even I can't stand RM84x.
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[QUOTE="Walker34"]

[QUOTE="Slambo86"]LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Slambo86

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

so its just a graphics thing....well in that case you're dead wrong, IMO..the graphics look bad and only show the aged engine. animations are still the same, character models while detailed still have the same art and just overall look. Envrioments are bland as ever. I see no real improvements. going by the vids.

Nope, not much has changed, including you, trolling Halo for ever I see. :roll: Besides, the gameplay is going to be completely different to H3, the whole game is going to take place on one big map, the story will be told through flashbacks, a completely new health system and HUD, a new 'visor mode' to point out enemies and items of interest, a new stealthy approach to gameplay, new weapons, no more bouncy jumping and last but not least, a completely new gameplay mode; with more to be revealed soon.
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Walker34

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

HALO ODST does not take place b4 Halo3.... it takes place during the same time frame. Halo: Reach is the prequel to the Halo Series.

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Yeah, I have to agree: I'm a PS3 owner, and even I can't stand RM84x.beekayjay

interweb high five brother *hand goes up*

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[QUOTE="Walker34"]

[QUOTE="Slambo86"]LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.whatisazerg

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

HALO ODST does not take place b4 Halo3.... it takes place during the same time frame. Halo: Reach is the prequel to the Halo Series.

No, they both take place before Halo 3...
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[QUOTE="beekayjay"]Yeah, I have to agree: I'm a PS3 owner, and even I can't stand RM84x.whatisazerg

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Good, the pistol looks BA. Loved the Halo 1 pistol :)
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

angelkimne

HALO ODST does not take place b4 Halo3.... it takes place during the same time frame. Halo: Reach is the prequel to the Halo Series.

No, they both take place before Halo 3...

Nah I don't think so man..... the reason the ODST's lose each other is because The High Prophets Ship does the jump through the portal near the city right? which is an event that happens in Halo3, or am I out of my mind?

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

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#32 azell07
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The gametrailer HD clips looked embarrassingly dated. I love to hate on Halo, but seriously, even I felt bad for the game.beekayjay
Don't feel bad for the game, it looks good enough, and im sure it will make m$ a few millions. I'll buy it.
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#33 Toriko42
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I have Zero interest in another Halo game. Im sick of the franchise. RM84x
I have a very very very hard time believing you own a 360
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#34 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

HALO ODST does not take place b4 Halo3.... it takes place during the same time frame. Halo: Reach is the prequel to the Halo Series.

whatisazerg

No, they both take place before Halo 3...

Nah I don't think so man..... the reason the ODST's lose each other is because The High Prophets Ship does the jump through the portal near the city right? which is an event that happens in Halo3, or am I out of my mind?

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo_3:_ODST "ODST is a campaign expansion and prologue to Halo 3 which will bridge a gap between Halo 2 and Halo 3" I'm guessing it will end just as Halo 3 begins.
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#35 walkingdream
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I am excited Halo ODST, and I have never been excited about a Halo game before. For one reason only: New character, means new story. Master Chief is probably THE dumbest character in video game history, and Halo 1-3's story is just bad.

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Halo's story is far far far more deep then most people know on system wars.... Just look at all the fan fiction.....it's crazy. Yes you can summerise it in about a paragraph, but really your not getting the full picture at all.
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Nah I don't think so man..... the reason the ODST's lose each other is because The High Prophets Ship does the jump through the portal near the city right? which is an event that happens in Halo3, or am I out of my mind?

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

whatisazerg

Wrong. The New Mombasa slipspace jump occured 1/2 way through the events of Halo 2. :roll:

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#37 Truth_Hurts_U
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Halo ODST.... I was going to buy it... But after seeing it, I changed my mind. Maybe when it's $15-$20 I might get it.

This games graphics look worse then Halo 3's. The AI looks retarded (way worse then Halo 3) and the glowing hud is annoying.

If I were to rate what I seen from the gameplay footage I would give it a 7.0.

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#38 Ross_the_B0SS
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Yeah I would consider it a full game. I think it just comes with an expansion to Halo 3 (Disc 2)

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#39 walkingdream
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Halo ODST.... I was going to buy it... But after seeing it, I changed my mind. Maybe when it's $15-$20 I might get it.

This games graphics look worse then Halo 3's. The AI looks retarded (way worse then Halo 3) and the glowing hud is annoying.

If I were to rate what I seen from the gameplay footage I would give it a 7.0.

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Your joking?? I can understand proplr not getting ODST, but that sir is just UTTER ****
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LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Slambo86
Funny that's what GoW 3 looked like too. Kratos doing the same combos with the blades of whoever now. Some new weapons, but basically pound XX,Y and dodge. I'm still buying it day one of course. Just makes me laugh how Halo gets called out for this but GoW doesn't. Gameplay wise it also is essentially the same.
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#41 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.Slambo86

I disagree. I'm nto saying it's halo 4. But they updated the graphics and engine quite a bit. It looks quite a bit better than halo 3. It's somewhere in between halo 3 and halo 4, which it is obviously. Although it takes place before halo 3. I don't think it's really an expansion though. It's its own game.

HALO ODST does not take place b4 Halo3.... it takes place during the same time frame. Halo: Reach is the prequel to the Halo Series.

No, it concurs with the events in Halo 2, right after the New Mombassa slipspace event. Reach might also take place during the events of Halo: CE, because when Reach fell, the Pillar of Autumn took off and found Halo, thus the game started.
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#42 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

I am excited Halo ODST, and I have never been excited about a Halo game before. For one reason only: New character, means new story. Master Chief is probably THE dumbest character in video game history, and Halo 1-3's story is just bad.

Halo's story is far far far more deep then most people know on system wars.... Just look at all the fan fiction.....it's crazy. Yes you can summerise it in about a paragraph, but really your not getting the full picture at all.

Thank you! Beyond most people is that Halo has its own fully-fleshed out universe, spanning short movies, books, and the games, of course.
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#43 Vandalvideo
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You know, there are some expansions with more content than your average console sequel. Ammount of content does not a non-expansion make.
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#44 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

No, they both take place before Halo 3...angelkimne

Nah I don't think so man..... the reason the ODST's lose each other is because The High Prophets Ship does the jump through the portal near the city right? which is an event that happens in Halo3, or am I out of my mind?

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo_3:_ODST "ODST is a campaign expansion and prologue to Halo 3 which will bridge a gap between Halo 2 and Halo 3" I'm guessing it will end just as Halo 3 begins.

Whoa, I had an idea! What if the game ends during that fight scene in the Halo 3 short film with ODSTs tracking the Chief? Ah, that would be awesome!
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it's basically halo 3 with new levels. (both single and multiplayer) which is what an expansion is.
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[QUOTE="Slambo86"]LMAO..new halo? it what way....it looks exactly like Halo 3 (gameplay-wise) with just a new bigger world and objective.cainetao11
Funny that's what GoW 3 looked like too. Kratos doing the same combos with the blades of whoever now. Some new weapons, but basically pound XX,Y and dodge. I'm still buying it day one of course. Just makes me laugh how Halo gets called out for this but GoW doesn't. Gameplay wise it also is essentially the same.

that's because the action/beatemup genre is not completely oversaturated. with every other game these days being a shooter, they all get more criticism for being exactly the same.
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#47 123Dan123
Member since 2003 • 14078 Posts
Halo 3  Halo 3: ODST  ODST is much darker and grittier looking and is taken on a slightly new artistic style.
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#48 DarkGamer007
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Sad that is just an expansion, even worse is that is going to be 60 bucks (correct me if im wrong but that is what I understood by "Full retail value")

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They should make it $60 for the game with the Halo 3 maps and a $30 version of the game without the maps, so people who already have the maps aren't paying for somethign they already own.

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#50 CleanPlayer
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I agreee on it's gamepaly, but it's interface, enemies, graphics, sound, ext...looks exactly like Halo 3. I do believe it is an expansion pack based on that, and I'm very excited to let alone experience a more tactical Halo