Halo Reach: $15 dollar map packs?

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#1 Ultizer
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will it happen?

im wondering when Map packs will become 20 bucks a pop

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#2 Nonstop-Madness
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Bungie won't do that
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#3 Valiant_Rebel
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Reach map packs will happen, but I do not think it will be $15. If someone wants to save money on the map packs, they could wait for a GOTY edition.

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#4 Ravensmash
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Bungie's prices have always been pretty good I think.
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#5 Alias_Nemesis
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it will happen...but the price most probably wint be 15$...and people wil buy it....(not me tho)

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#6 walkingdream
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No lol
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Bungie won't do thatNonstop-Madness
But mircosoft will :lol:
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#8 Ultizer
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Bungie won't do thatLed_poison
But mircosoft will :lol:

i lol'd

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#9 FIipMode
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Oh god if that happens SW will be one interesting place :P
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#10 TheShadowLord07
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Reach map packs will happen, but I do not think it will be $15. If someone wants to save money on the map packs, they could wait for a GOTY edition.

Valiant_Rebel

only thing is halo 3 didnt have a goty version. there could have been aone since it got one from 1up but it didnt. and all the maps have been 800 ms points(cold storage ho wever was not cause it was free).

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#11 siddhu33
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Probably not. At least, I hope not.

Anyway, if the map editor rumours are true, then we won't even need map packs.

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#12 Rougehunter
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Probably not. At least, I hope not.

Anyway, if the map editor rumours are true, then we won't even need map packs.

siddhu33

What are the rumors? Have a link?

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#13 Valiant_Rebel
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[QUOTE="Valiant_Rebel"]

Reach map packs will happen, but I do not think it will be $15. If someone wants to save money on the map packs, they could wait for a GOTY edition.

TheShadowLord07

only thing is halo 3 didnt have a goty version. there could have been aone since it got one from 1up but it didnt. and all the maps have been 800 ms points(cold storage ho wever was not cause it was free).

Right. I only say that because ODST had the entire Halo 3 multiplayer, all the DLC maps, and 3 new maps along with it. I am not saying that they will, but I think that Halo: Reach will eventually be bundled together with all of its DLC in retail one day.

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#14 siddhu33
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Probably not. At least, I hope not.

Anyway, if the map editor rumours are true, then we won't even need map packs.

Rougehunter

What are the rumors? Have a link?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/digital/gaming/sneak-peak-of-halo-reach

There are other surprises inReach, including multiplayer modes that weren't playable in the recent public Beta, more new vehicles and a fully-featured level-editor that's so powerful, Bungie developers used it to create a few of the maps that will come with the game.


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#15 slipknot0129
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3 maps for $10 is more than 5 for $15. So halo 3 was the one that started it.

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#16 93soccer
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Bungie wouldnt do that. And even if they did, it wouldn't included rehased maps, there would actually be new maps. But Bungie know's how to price map packs so I don't have to worry
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#17 Ultizer
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3 maps for $10 is more that 5 for $15. So halo 3 was the one that started it.

slipknot0129

Halo 2 started it

i remember getting map pakcs for free, lots of them, Starcraft/CS, the only games that give free map packs now are Tf2 and... im not sure

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#18 93soccer
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3 maps for $10 is more than 5 for $15. So halo 3 was the one that started it.

slipknot0129
Sure by like 33 cents but it didn't include 2 rehased maps each time ;) So technically you're paying $15 for 3 maps
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#19 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

3 maps for $10 is more than 5 for $15. So halo 3 was the one that started it.

93soccer
Sure by like 33 cents but it didn't include 2 rehased maps each time ;) So technically you're paying $15 for 3 maps

And at least Halo's maps give you a bit of customisation potential :)
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#20 WTA2k5
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Well, we'll see once they actually start talking about map packs.

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#21 InsaneBasura
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People evidently want to pay more and I'm positive Microsoft will let them.
Bungie won't do thatNonstop-Madness
What Bungie wants doesn't matter. Not that I think they'd be opposed to more money either.
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#22 vashkey
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I don't think it will, but if it does happen I wont buy them unless they come with like ten maps. I might be a huge Halo fan but I'm not coughing up that much cash for a few maps. Heck, if they do the 3 map for ten dollars thing again I'm not getting them. Three maps is not worth one tenth of the game's total price. I'll just wait for them to recieve price drops or go on deal of the week. It happens every times, I don't care if I have to wait months. I'll be just fine with the launch maps.
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#23 Sp4rtan_3
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It will probably be 4 maps priced at 12 bucks which is a good deal IMO. Bungie usually develops all new maps or 3 new maps and a fan favorite from the previous Halo's.
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#24 vashkey
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

3 maps for $10 is more than 5 for $15. So halo 3 was the one that started it.

93soccer
Sure by like 33 cents but it didn't include 2 rehased maps each time ;) So technically you're paying $15 for 3 maps

Halo 3's Legendary map pack included Ghost Town - a new map, Avalanche - a remake of Halo: Combat Evolved's Sidewinder and Blackout - a remake of Halo 2's Lockout. Thats two remakes and one new map out of three maps. I didn't think it was such a bad thing since I loved all three maps but people beg for these old maps to show up in the new game so I don't think it's very fair to criticize the developer for delivering what their fans want.
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Like 10$ is really any better... They should be free, at most 2 or 3 bucks for a map pack. 5+$ for maps is robbery. Only on consoles...

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#26 agff9
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Bungie won't do thatLed_poison
But mircosoft will :lol:

I wanted to tell that...
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#27 RobBourne
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[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

3 maps for $10 is more than 5 for $15. So halo 3 was the one that started it.

vashkey

Sure by like 33 cents but it didn't include 2 rehased maps each time ;) So technically you're paying $15 for 3 maps

Halo 3's Legendary map pack included Ghost Town - a new map, Avalanche - a remake of Halo: Combat Evolved's Sidewinder and Blackout - a remake of Halo 2's Lockout. Thats two remakes and one new map out of three maps. I didn't think it was such a bad thing since I loved all three maps but people beg for these old maps to show up in the new game so I don't think it's very fair to criticize the developer for delivering what their fans want.

Avalanche and Blackout play NOTHING like the originals.

The CoD4 remakes are a carbon copy, maybe the grass is a different color or something but that's it.

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#28 InsaneBasura
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Like 10$ is really any better... They should be free, at most 2 or 3 bucks for a map pack. 5+$ for maps is robbery. Only on consoles...

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In most cases it does cost them money to produce the content, it's only fair that they want a return. I don't expect to be given things for free.

In other cases, if people are willing to pay publishers will charge. Supply and demand etc. etc.

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#29 Darkslayer16
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After all the idiots that paid for the MW2 map packs there will probably be $15 map packs for other gams such as Halo.

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#30 hellhund
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I have no doubt that the map packs will be over $10. Maybe under $15, for purposes of marketing and public perception, but they're going to be as expensive as possible. Its capitalism at work. They'll charge as much as they can and people will still buy them by the millions.

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#31 Ross_the_Boss6
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I'm guessing $10 map packs with 3 maps, which is I believe what Halo 3 had.

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#32 TehNubTuber
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[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]

Like 10$ is really any better... They should be free, at most 2 or 3 bucks for a map pack. 5+$ for maps is robbery. Only on consoles...

InsaneBasura


In most cases it does cost them money to produce the content, it's only fair that they want a return. I don't expect to be given things for free.

In other cases, if people are willing to pay publishers will charge. Supply and demand etc. etc.

I know all about the business side of it, but I'm not fond of get shafted because of the people that pay for this stuff. Map packs used to be more like thank you love letters from the devs to the fans. It was this gen and consolites that changed it all. Probably started with MS and Xbox Live...

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#33 lawlessx
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if forge 2.0 is anything like what im reading people are just going to making custom maps and giving them out for free.
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if forge 2.0 is anything like what im reading people are just going to making custom maps and giving them out for free.lawlessx
People would still rather have professionally made Bungie maps, rather than maps made by random people of dubious skill.
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Bungie won't do thatNonstop-Madness
Bungie have no say in it. They wanted to give their maps packs away for free.
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[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

3 maps for $10 is more than 5 for $15. So halo 3 was the one that started it.

vashkey

Sure by like 33 cents but it didn't include 2 rehased maps each time ;) So technically you're paying $15 for 3 maps

Halo 3's Legendary map pack included Ghost Town - a new map, Avalanche - a remake of Halo: Combat Evolved's Sidewinder and Blackout - a remake of Halo 2's Lockout. Thats two remakes and one new map out of three maps. I didn't think it was such a bad thing since I loved all three maps but people beg for these old maps to show up in the new game so I don't think it's very fair to criticize the developer for delivering what their fans want.

Avalanche wasn't a flat-out remake, it was inspired by sidewinder by all means but wasn't just the same map. Both maps were also completely re-built, visually. They looked completely different to the originals, even though they followed the same schematics.

In COD, they were just the same maps....

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yeah, i don't see bungie allowing that.
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]if forge 2.0 is anything like what im reading people are just going to making custom maps and giving them out for free.hellhund
People would still rather have professionally made Bungie maps, rather than maps made by random people of dubious skill.

Custom maps are usually better. The best Halo 3 maps were made from Forge using only two maps, Foundry and Sandbox.

Now imagine you had a full-fledged map editor. Sure there's going to be a lot of garbage, but that's no excuse to downplay them. If you are, then PS2 is the worst system ever. Sure it had great games, but it had probably a 5:1 ratio of bad-to-great games.

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#39 RobBourne
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yeah, i don't see bungie allowing that.UnArguably

It's not their decision. It's Microsoft's.

Microsoft is in bed with Activision, so I have no doubt they will copy their business plan.

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#40 hellhund
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[QUOTE="hellhund"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]if forge 2.0 is anything like what im reading people are just going to making custom maps and giving them out for free.RobBourne

People would still rather have professionally made Bungie maps, rather than maps made by random people of dubious skill.

Custom maps are usually better. The best Halo 3 maps were made from Forge using only two maps, Foundry and Sandbox.

Now imagine you had a full-fledged map editor. Sure there's going to be a lot of garbage, but that's no excuse to downplay them. If you are, then PS2 is the worst system ever. Sure it had great games, but it had probably a 5:1 ratio of bad-to-great games.

In spite of Halo 3 having Forge, did people still buy the map packs?
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[QUOTE="UnArguably"]yeah, i don't see bungie allowing that.RobBourne

It's not their decision. It's Microsoft's.

Microsoft is in bed with Activision, so I have no doubt they will copy their business plan.

bungie has pull though with microsoft, i don't see bungie allowing it. in fact, im sure bungie would refuse to even make the maps if microsoft would do that. bungie actually cares about their gaming community.
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Bungie won't do thatLed_poison
But mircosoft will :lol:

Hilarious... I can see MS doing it, after the success of the MW2 map packs. I hope not though.
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#44 hellhund
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[QUOTE="RobBourne"]

[QUOTE="UnArguably"]yeah, i don't see bungie allowing that.UnArguably

It's not their decision. It's Microsoft's.

Microsoft is in bed with Activision, so I have no doubt they will copy their business plan.

bungie has pull though with microsoft, i don't see bungie allowing it. in fact, im sure bungie would refuse to even make the maps if microsoft would do that. bungie actually cares about their gaming community.

If Bungie makes the map packs, Microsoft will then price them. Odds are, there's nothing they could do to stop them. It didn't stop them when Bungie wanted it to be free, but Microsoft charged for it anyways. Halo is Microsoft's to do with as they please.
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#45 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]

Like 10$ is really any better... They should be free, at most 2 or 3 bucks for a map pack. 5+$ for maps is robbery. Only on consoles...

TehNubTuber


In most cases it does cost them money to produce the content, it's only fair that they want a return. I don't expect to be given things for free.

In other cases, if people are willing to pay publishers will charge. Supply and demand etc. etc.

I know all about the business side of it, but I'm not fond of get shafted because of the people that pay for this stuff. Map packs used to be more like thank you love letters from the devs to the fans. It was this gen and consolites that changed it all. Probably started with MS and Xbox Live...

You better get used to it because it's only going to get worse.

Hopefully only for games I can ignore. Everyone has at least one game where they run the risk of becoming a hypocrite. Were you might begrudgingly be able to put up with being treated like crap because the game underneath all that BS is so appealing. For me it's Battlefield 3. I'm planning to upgrade my PC for that game. EA are experts at BS practices, so I'm expecting the worst. I have a faint sliver of hope though.

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#46 hellhund
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[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
In most cases it does cost them money to produce the content, it's only fair that they want a return. I don't expect to be given things for free.

In other cases, if people are willing to pay publishers will charge. Supply and demand etc. etc.

InsaneBasura

I know all about the business side of it, but I'm not fond of get shafted because of the people that pay for this stuff. Map packs used to be more like thank you love letters from the devs to the fans. It was this gen and consolites that changed it all. Probably started with MS and Xbox Live...

You better get used to it because it's only going to get worse.

Hopefully only for games I can ignore. Everyone has at least one game where they run the risk of becoming a hypocrite. Were you might begrudgingly be able to put up with being treated like crap because the game underneath all that BS is so appealing. For me it's Battlefield 3. I'm planning to upgrade my PC for that game. EA are experts at BS practices, so I'm expecting the worst. I have a faint sliver of hope though.

I've never bought a map pack and don't expect to ever do so. Although, I'm not a huge online multiplayer person. More maps would be nice, but I'd rather invest that $15 towards a new game.

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#47 UnArguably
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If Bungie makes the map packs, Microsoft will then price them. Odds are, there's nothing they could do to stop them. It didn't stop them when Bungie wanted it to be free, but Microsoft charged for it anyways. Halo is Microsoft's to do with as they please.hellhund
i'm sure bungie has some pull, i don't think it would happen. though i will pray that it won't. 800 points is already too much, but 1200? that's just ridiculous.
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[QUOTE="hellhund"]If Bungie makes the map packs, Microsoft will then price them. Odds are, there's nothing they could do to stop them. It didn't stop them when Bungie wanted it to be free, but Microsoft charged for it anyways. Halo is Microsoft's to do with as they please.UnArguably
i'm sure bungie has some pull, i don't think it would happen. though i will pray that it won't. 800 points is already too much, but 1200? that's just ridiculous.

I don't think Bungie has any leverage anymore. Hell, they could just have 343 make the map packs for $15 if Bungie won't cooperate.
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#49 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="RobBourne"]

[QUOTE="UnArguably"]

It's not their decision. It's Microsoft's.

Microsoft is in bed with Activision, so I have no doubt they will copy their business plan.

UnArguably

bungie has pull though with microsoft, i don't see bungie allowing it. in fact, im sure bungie would refuse to even make the maps if microsoft would do that. bungie actually cares about their gaming community.

And I used to think DICE's alleged free maps could actually happen because DICE had some pull with EA through DICE's former CEO being an EA Studio Manager, or Europe VP, or something. But BC2 screws users over more than any other game before it.

Even if Bungie did have pull it wouldn't matter. Ultimately Microsoft's responsibility lies with the shareholders. Microsoft will price it whatever they deem fit. If Bungie are under contract to produce DLC they would obviously be legally obliged to do so. Whatever Bungie may feel about the eventual pricing is irrelevant.

I don't think Bungie has any leverage anymore. Hell, they could just have 343 make the map packs for $15 if Bungie won't cooperate.hellhund

And that.

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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"] I know all about the business side of it, but I'm not fond of get shafted because of the people that pay for this stuff. Map packs used to be more like thank you love letters from the devs to the fans. It was this gen and consolites that changed it all. Probably started with MS and Xbox Live...

hellhund

You better get used to it because it's only going to get worse.

Hopefully only for games I can ignore. Everyone has at least one game where they run the risk of becoming a hypocrite. Were you might begrudgingly be able to put up with being treated like crap because the game underneath all that BS is so appealing. For me it's Battlefield 3. I'm planning to upgrade my PC for that game. EA are experts at BS practices, so I'm expecting the worst. I have a faint sliver of hope though.

I've never bought a map pack and don't expect to ever do so. Although, I'm not a huge online multiplayer person. More maps would be nice, but I'd rather invest that $15 towards a new game.

What if that $15 went to the first episode of a game?

There's a new trend forming with games like Dead Rising: Case Zero and the Red Faction thing. Did they rip out the beginning of the game? Or wouldn't this part of the game have existed otherwise? Was it developed separately with its own budget as a stand-alone game? I don't know.

And of course Ubisoft tends to release parts of the game they apparently couldn't complete before the game went gold. See Prince of Persia and Assassin's Creed II.

Everything's so shady these days.