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#1 metal-movement
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I remember when the Halo 3 trailer first came out, Halo fans drooled thinking the final game was gonna look as good as the trailer.... Is this happening all over again? Is Halo Reach graphics gonna be so hyped only to end up looking not even close to the trailer? Even though this time it is in game I own a PS3 but I honestly think Gears of War 2 looks way ahead of Halo Reach, even in game. I think Halo fans are over hyping the graphics a little to much because there is already a better looking game on the 360 two years ago.......Gears of War 2
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#2 Espada12
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I also remember cows saying halo wouldn't look good based off the beta.. look how that turned out... btw my obligatory lvl 1, 4 posts comment.

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#3 Ribnarak
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yup couldnt agree more,

But thats the thing, fans shouldnt hype this game on graphics, instead they should do so on its gameplay, as halo games have been always very fun .

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#4 VendettaRed07
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im sure it will look great just like Halo 3 did

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#5 lawlessx
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note the halo reach sticky.
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#6 Ribnarak
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I also remember cows saying halo wouldn't look good based off the beta.. look how that turned out... btw my obligatory lvl 1, 4 posts comment.

Espada12

thats funny, did u forget the time when u had4 posts?.

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#7 fireballonfire
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All I can say is that Reach has the potential to be the best looking console game when it launches.

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#8 jman1553
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Yeah, I was a bit disappointed. I was just as hyped as everyone else when I saw the footage. The only difference is, I don't have a 360. I was truly hoping that it'd look truly amazing, because I heard something about a new engine. Not saying it doesn't look good. Just not what others are hyping it to be.

(Yeah I know there's still a long time till release)

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#9 CorruptAndrew
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The graphics look good to me and the is not out yet so the graphics could improve between now and when the game is released

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#10 metal-movement
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Not a fanboy......BUT I loved Halo 2 for the gameplay, which is what made the game so badazz. Halo was never about graphics
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#11 Arctic_Grillz
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I think the graphics already looks good, ill be more concerned on what exciting new stuff they could add.
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#12 jyoung312
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im sure it will look great just like Halo 3 did

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Meaning fugly as sin. I'm playing Halo 3 right now with a borrowed 360 while my ps3 is down (ylod) and my god is Halo 3 fugly. It has to be one of the ugliest next gen games I have seen and to think this is a top tier production from MS and Bungie. The game is full of jaggies, low poly characters, low res textures, average lighting, and so so effects.
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#13 destro123
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Naw I think this game is going to have amazing graphics, an par with MW2 at least. Its Bungies last Halo game, they wont let people down.

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#14 Javieralijandro
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Is it 720 yet?
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#15 fireballonfire
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Not a fanboy......BUT I loved Halo 2 for the gameplay, which is what made the game so badazz. Halo was never about graphicsmetal-movement

Both Halo and Halo 2 were console graphic kings when they were released.

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#16 enterawesome
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Well, that trailer unveiled at the VGAs was apparently part of the game's opening cinematic. All Halo games made by Bungie have cutscenes that use the in-game engine. If this holds true with Reach, then the graphics we saw in the trailer were not CG, but in fact the graphics we can expect from the final product, only better, since the game is in Alpha/Pre-Beta level of devolopment.
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#17 metal-movement
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

im sure it will look great just like Halo 3 did

jyoung312
Meaning fugly as sin. I'm playing Halo 3 right now with a borrowed 360 while my ps3 is down (ylod) and my god is Halo 3 fugly. It has to be one of the ugliest next gen games I have seen and to think this is a top tier production from MS and Bungie. The game is full of jaggies, low poly characters, low res textures, average lighting, and so so effects.

Makes me wonder. When MS said...."future 360 will far surpass Killzone 2". Is MS talking about Halo reach, or Alan Wake? Cause Alan Wake would make more sense. I mean just look at the demo compared to Halo Reach trailer
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#18 Next-Gen-Tec
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I'm sure this time, with the new engine and not an updated Halo 2 engine, the game will look a lot better than Halo 3.
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#19 xYamatox
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yup couldnt agree more,

But thats the thing, fans shouldnt hype this game on graphics, instead they should do so on its gameplay, as halo games have been always very fun .

Ribnarak

All Bungie has to do is work on their storytelling, and I'll be sold. I haven't been a fan of Halo since Combat Evolved, and it's simply do to the fact that Halo 2/3 has the most boring campaign I have ever played. There's no emotion, I don' feel like I accomplish anything, and it just seems to be there as filler.

The only thing I liked out of campaign was Halo 3, where you fight the two Scarabs at once (only epic part I can recall). I haven't had a chance to play ODST yet, and I'm crossing my fingers that the storytelling is more interesting in that game.

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#20 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

I also remember cows saying halo wouldn't look good based off the beta.. look how that turned out... btw my obligatory lvl 1, 4 posts comment.

Ribnarak

thats funny, did u forget the time when u had4 posts?.

No.. but then again I wasn't making threads on SW the day I joined GS and I doubt many of us where.

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#21 Kickinurass
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

im sure it will look great just like Halo 3 did

jyoung312

Meaning fugly as sin. I'm playing Halo 3 right now with a borrowed 360 while my ps3 is down (ylod) and my god is Halo 3 fugly. It has to be one of the ugliest next gen games I have seen and to think this is a top tier production from MS and Bungie. The game is full of jaggies, low poly characters, low res textures, average lighting, and so so effects.

I'll give you jaggies and some textures, but the lighting and environmental textures are actually very good.

The marine faces were a mess though.

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#22 93soccer
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I hope you realized there's a Halo: Reach sticky. But I guess I can expect that from a lvl 1, 6 post noob account
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#23 htekemerald
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Uhh besides some AA halo 3 looked pretty much identical to the announcement trailer.

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#24 xYamatox
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Uhh besides some AA halo 3 looked pretty much identical to the announcement trailer.

htekemerald

The smell of crap is in the air.....

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#25 metal-movement
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I hope you realized there's a Halo: Reach sticky. But I guess I can expect that from a lvl 1, 6 post noob account93soccer
I created an account because I wanted answers. Is there something wrong with that?
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#26 metal-movement
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Uhh besides some AA halo 3 looked pretty much identical to the announcement trailer.

htekemerald
Sorry. Halo 3 looked nothing like the Trailer.
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Uhh besides some AA halo 3 looked pretty much identical to the announcement trailer.

metal-movement
Sorry. Halo 3 looked nothing like the Trailer.

The only difference was the texture resolution on his armor, besides that it looked pretty much identical.
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[QUOTE="93soccer"]I hope you realized there's a Halo: Reach sticky. But I guess I can expect that from a lvl 1, 6 post noob accountmetal-movement
I created an account because I wanted answers. Is there something wrong with that?

You want answers to a game that we haven't seen anything about except a trailer? Alrighhty then
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#29 jyoung312
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[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

yup couldnt agree more,

But thats the thing, fans shouldnt hype this game on graphics, instead they should do so on its gameplay, as halo games have been always very fun .

xYamatox

All Bungie has to do is work on their storytelling, and I'll be sold. I haven't been a fan of Halo since Combat Evolved, and it's simply do to the fact that Halo 2/3 has the most boring campaign I have ever played. There's no emotion, I don' feel like I accomplish anything, and it just seems to be there as filler.

The only thing I liked out of campaign was Halo 3, where you fight the two Scarabs at once (only epic part I can recall). I haven't had a chance to play ODST yet, and I'm crossing my fingers that the storytelling is more interesting in that game.

The only part I am liking so far in Halo 3 is the ability to take turrets off their stands and run around with them. The campaign so far seems just like another shooter but with something lacking: intensity. I can't take a shooter seriously if the enemies run around screaming silly phrases like fish in a barrel ready to be pwned while my teammates run around like idiots spouting terribly written dialogue. The story doesn't really seem to give me a reason to care enough about the characters or the war. Gameplay wise I find the lack of a sprint button highly annoying especially since the Chief runs as slow as molasses. I don't like that if you want to switch weapons while dual wielding that you have to drop your 2nd gun and switch and then basically have to pick the weapon you dropped back up when you switch back. To be quite honest, I have no idea why we talk about Halo when there's plenty of other great shooters out there that do single player so much better. I am enjoying Metroid Prime 3 much more than I am Halo 3. (Yes, I know that these are games from 2007 but this has been the only break in playing ps3 games that I have had in awhile to try the games not on ps3)

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#30 kingsfan_0333
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-Halo is about GAMEPLAY. PS3 fans don't seem to understand that. All of these graphics discussions in SW go on all day, but at the end of the day, there are reasons why COD: MW, Halo 3, and even Counter Strike are still widely played online - and it had nothing to do with graphics. Compare the online activity between Halo 3 and Killzone 2, and you'll find out exactly how important graphics are. Halo 3 had a features list that is unmatch by any console game to date.

-I don't understand all these posts that say it wasn't in-game and that there is no way that Reach could look THAT good, and then continue on by saying that the graphics aren't even impressive. Please, pick a side and stop contradicting yourselves...it is embarrassing.

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#31 metal-movement
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[QUOTE="metal-movement"][QUOTE="93soccer"]I hope you realized there's a Halo: Reach sticky. But I guess I can expect that from a lvl 1, 6 post noob account93soccer
I created an account because I wanted answers. Is there something wrong with that?

You want answers to a game that we haven't seen anything about except a trailer? Alrighhty then

No, I want to state my point on a game that hasn't even came out yet. and people are already calling it Graphics King, which is the exact opposite of Bunjie's world
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#32 painguy1
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it will not look the same. that vid was prerendered.

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#33 jyoung312
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

im sure it will look great just like Halo 3 did

Kickinurass

Meaning fugly as sin. I'm playing Halo 3 right now with a borrowed 360 while my ps3 is down (ylod) and my god is Halo 3 fugly. It has to be one of the ugliest next gen games I have seen and to think this is a top tier production from MS and Bungie. The game is full of jaggies, low poly characters, low res textures, average lighting, and so so effects.

I'll give you jaggies and some textures, but the lighting and environmental textures are actually very good.

The marine faces were a mess though.

The lighting isn't that great. It has gotten better as the game has gone on, but it pales in comparison to other games like KZ2, MW2, Resistance 2, Uncharted, etc when it comes to lighting
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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

yup couldnt agree more,

But thats the thing, fans shouldnt hype this game on graphics, instead they should do so on its gameplay, as halo games have been always very fun .

jyoung312

All Bungie has to do is work on their storytelling, and I'll be sold. I haven't been a fan of Halo since Combat Evolved, and it's simply do to the fact that Halo 2/3 has the most boring campaign I have ever played. There's no emotion, I don' feel like I accomplish anything, and it just seems to be there as filler.

The only thing I liked out of campaign was Halo 3, where you fight the two Scarabs at once (only epic part I can recall). I haven't had a chance to play ODST yet, and I'm crossing my fingers that the storytelling is more interesting in that game.

The only part I am liking so far in Halo 3 is the ability to take turrets off their stands and run around with them. The campaign so far seems just like another shooter but with something lacking: intensity. I can't take a shooter seriously if the enemies run around screaming silly phrases like fish in a barrel ready to be pwned while my teammates run around like idiots spouting terribly written dialogue. The story doesn't really seem to give me a reason to care enough about the characters or the war. Gameplay wise I find the lack of a sprint button highly annoying especially since the Chief runs as slow as molasses. I don't like that if you want to switch weapons while dual wielding that you have to drop your 2nd gun and switch and then basically have to pick the weapon you dropped back up when you switch back. To be quite honest, I have no idea why we talk about Halo when there's plenty of other great shooters out there that do single player so much better. I am enjoying Metroid Prime 3 much more than I am Halo 3. (Yes, I know that these are games from 2007 but this has been the only break in playing ps3 games that I have had in awhile to try the games not on ps3)

"To be quite honest, I have no idea why we talk about Halo when there's plenty of other great shooters out there that do single player so much better."

...because of it's multiplayer. And because there aren't too many other games that offer four player online/offline coop, 4 player splitscreen, forge, and theater.

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#35 Kickinurass
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[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="jyoung312"] Meaning fugly as sin. I'm playing Halo 3 right now with a borrowed 360 while my ps3 is down (ylod) and my god is Halo 3 fugly. It has to be one of the ugliest next gen games I have seen and to think this is a top tier production from MS and Bungie. The game is full of jaggies, low poly characters, low res textures, average lighting, and so so effects.jyoung312

I'll give you jaggies and some textures, but the lighting and environmental textures are actually very good.

The marine faces were a mess though.

The lighting isn't that great. It has gotten better as the game has gone on, but it pales in comparison to other games like KZ2, MW2, Resistance 2, Uncharted, etc when it comes to lighting

I haven't played any of those games, but I do know Halo 3 is one of the few console games that uses HDR lighting. Also, I'd like to point out most of those games came out after Halo 3 and had time to twerk their lighting effects.

Halo gets alot of flack for its graphics - but its lighting is usually sited as one of its strongpoints.

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#36 Jake145222
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nah...I think its just the inner cow coming out and being terrified of what this could do to the ps3. I bet you(TC) were drooling over this trailer as well.
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#37 jyoung312
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"To be quite honest, I have no idea why we talk about Halo when there's plenty of other great shooters out there that do single player so much better."

...because of it's multiplayer. And because there aren't too many other games that offer four player online/offline coop, 4 player splitscreen, forge, and theater.

I'll give you theater mode because that is a really cool feature that every shooter should have. The feature list is nice and all but the gameplay IMHO is so soulless.

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#38 fireballonfire
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TC (100% purebred cow),what you are looking for is a confirmation that Reach will not look as good asUC2 or KZ2 and that is all you came here for, am I right or am I right?

Instead of comparing the graphics directly to UC2 you have choosen Geow 2 as your target, how clever (not). Even though 90%of the posts in SW are stupid doesn't mean we allare in fact stupid.

To answer your question, Reach has the potential(maybe not)to be console graphics king and that is all that can be said about the matter.

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TC (100% purebred cow),what you are looking for is a confirmation that Reach will not look as good asUC2 or KZ2 and that is all you came here for, am I right or am I right?

Instead of comparing the graphics directly to UC2 you have choosen Geow 2 as your target, how clever (not). Even though 90%of the posts in SW are stupid doesn't mean we allare in fact stupid.

To answer your question, Reach has the potential(maybe not)to be console graphics king and that is all that can be said about the matter.

fireballonfire

That makes you seem just as much fanboyish.

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#40 fireballonfire
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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

TC (100% purebred cow),what you are looking for is a confirmation that Reach will not look as good asUC2 or KZ2 and that is all you came here for, am I right or am I right?

Instead of comparing the graphics directly to UC2 you have choosen Geow 2 as your target, how clever (not). Even though 90%of the posts in SW are stupid doesn't mean we allare in fact stupid.

To answer your question, Reach has the potential(maybe not)to be console graphics king and that is all that can be said about the matter.

jman1553

That makes you seem just as much fanboyish.

I find it hard to disagree with you on that one. Not my finest hour I suppose.

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#41 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"]

"To be quite honest, I have no idea why we talk about Halo when there's plenty of other great shooters out there that do single player so much better."

...because of it's multiplayer. And because there aren't too many other games that offer four player online/offline coop, 4 player splitscreen, forge, and theater.

I'll give you theater mode because that is a really cool feature that every shooter should have. The feature list is nice and all but the gameplay IMHO is so soulless.

To me, Halo is a tactical shooter without cover. It's slower paced, and you really have to get into the fine details and nuances to fully apprectiate it. It's all skill really, there's no cheap deaths or anything. If you don't like it you don't like it, but I feel the gameplay certainly has "soul".
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#42 93soccer
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it will not look the same. that vid was prerendered.

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You know this because you work for Bungie right? They said it's in-engine and not pre-rendered.
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#43 Revolution316
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I also remember cows saying halo wouldn't look good based off the beta.. look how that turned out... btw my obligatory lvl 1, 4 posts comment.

Espada12

how did it turn out? you havnt seen any gameplay of halo reach so you cant confirm any graphic improvments you saw.....other then a cutscene LOL

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#44 Revolution316
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

it will not look the same. that vid was prerendered.

93soccer

You know this because you work for Bungie right? They said it's in-engine and not pre-rendered.

in-engine cutscene=/=in-engine GAMEPLAY

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#45 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="93soccer"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

it will not look the same. that vid was prerendered.

Revolution316

You know this because you work for Bungie right? They said it's in-engine and not pre-rendered.

in-engine cutscene=/=in-engine GAMEPLAY

you know the first UC2 trailer wasn't ingame..didn't stop cows from hyping it back then :wink:
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[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

[QUOTE="93soccer"] You know this because you work for Bungie right? They said it's in-engine and not pre-rendered.lawlessx

in-engine cutscene=/=in-engine GAMEPLAY

you know the first UC2 trailer wasn't ingame..didn't stop cows from hyping it back then :wink:

Also, looks a lot better than any in-game cutscene from previous Halo games.
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#47 VendettaRed07
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im sure it will look great just like Halo 3 did

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Meaning fugly as sin. I'm playing Halo 3 right now with a borrowed 360 while my ps3 is down (ylod) and my god is Halo 3 fugly. It has to be one of the ugliest next gen games I have seen and to think this is a top tier production from MS and Bungie. The game is full of jaggies, low poly characters, low res textures, average lighting, and so so effects.

The lighting is awesome. Its bright and colorful, its not technically great but I think it looks better because of the great art design. The gameplay graphics are good but I agree the like ingame cutscenes are the worst this gen. by far.

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#48 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Revolution316"]in-engine cutscene=/=in-engine GAMEPLAY

Next-Gen-Tec

you know the first UC2 trailer wasn't ingame..didn't stop cows from hyping it back then :wink:

Also, looks a lot better than any in-game cutscene from previous Halo games.

right now it appears the haters are caught in loop. some say the trailer was completely CGI and doubt the game can look anything like what was shown. On the other hand, some are saying that the graphical leap between halo 3 and what was shown in trailer isn't high enough and that it will be a huge dissapointment graphic wise.

and of course...we have the haters that are hoping bungie ends up downgrading the game before it releases :wink:

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#49 Revolution316
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[QUOTE="93soccer"] You know this because you work for Bungie right? They said it's in-engine and not pre-rendered.lawlessx

in-engine cutscene=/=in-engine GAMEPLAY

you know the first UC2 trailer wasn't ingame..didn't stop cows from hyping it back then :wink:

no 1 hyped uncharted 2 graphics when they saw the 1 trailer......lems are hyping halo reach graphics, just because its a new engine.....ZOMG NEW ENGINE FOR HALO REACH, graphics king confrimed!....:P

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#50 BlackTragedy
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that graphics will be good enough. lems can be happy with there 4 halo this gen. cows will be happy with all there games from 2010. the end