Halo wars outsells Killzone 2 on first week US!!

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#1 iqbalo_cool
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Halo wars sold 445,403 copies on first week US while killzone 2 did 359,354. Also the site mentions in an earlier article halo wars sold over 250,000 in its first day. In total halo wars did 610,363 first week worldwide. Which is slightly below killzone 2 worldwide first week figure of 718,332. But halo wars sold more in first week than any console rts did in its entire lifetime. So, halo wars indeed turns out to be a AAA.

Interesting thing is the massive drop killzone 2has in its second week. It sold 168,700 on USA on the week ending 07, march. Same story goes for europe as well where Killzone 2 sold 151,111. So almost 60% drop in both areas. So, the future doesn't look good for killzone 2 in terms of sells. But it stands 1.04mworldwide, so congrats for passing 1 million.

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Yeah, I think we figured out sales have little to do with quality a lot of the time.. I mean.. you throw the word Halo onto a game, even if its an underperfoming and limited RTS, it will sell well.
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Killzone 2 is rather generic and its launch prices were outrageous. Halo Wars isn't that good either but it has the halo name so yeah, was to be expected.

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Me thinks H.W. will gather a bigger & bigger following as time goes on. That isn't conventional wisdom I know, it's just a hunch is all.

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VGChartz numbers are pure guesswork until they adjust them based on NPD results. I thought everybody knew this by now? :?

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So HW does better in US and KZ2 does better worldwide, basically.
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#7 DarkCloud79
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It's been a long time since I see VGcharts data, maybe it's a comeback.

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#8 AAllxxjjnn
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No surprise here. It's got Halo in it's name. Bahhh bbaahhh baahhh.
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Casual vs. hardcore....hmmm

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Yeah, I think we figured out sales have little to do with quality a lot of the time.. I mean.. you throw the word Halo onto a game, even if its an underperfoming and limited RTS, it will sell well.110million


But still a fun game when it comes down to it :)

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#11 Burnsmiesta
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Casual vs. hardcore....hmmm

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You're kidding yourself if you think KZ2 isn't casual.

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KZ2 was reported to have over a 1 million pre-order status :?

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So HW does better in US and KZ2 does better worldwide, basically. Floppy_Jim
killzone 2 isn't selling as it was hyped to be. and I thought as the fan boys were saying about it all the time, sells will keep steady as the word of mouth reaches everyone. That didn't happen. It is seeing massive drop in sells week by week. A game ultimately isn't a success if it doesn't sell onto its expectation. no matter how good review it gets. look at little big planet, no one is saying its a big success. as it sold average.
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KZ2 was reported to have over a 1 million pre-order status :?

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That was a blunder sony played very well. They said it had 1.1m pre-order on europe alone. and it sold a total of merely 500 thousand in europe in 2 weeks.
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]So HW does better in US and KZ2 does better worldwide, basically. iqbalo_cool
killzone 2 isn't selling as it was hyped to be. and I thought as the fan boys were saying about it all the time, sells will keep steady as the word of mouth reaches everyone. That didn't happen. It is seeing massive drop in sells week by week. A game ultimately isn't a success if it doesn't sell onto its expectation. no matter how good review it gets. look at little big planet, no one is saying its a big success. as it sold average.

I'll wait for official numbers first, SCEE said they already had over a million pre-orders before it even came out.
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]So HW does better in US and KZ2 does better worldwide, basically. iqbalo_cool
killzone 2 isn't selling as it was hyped to be. and I thought as the fan boys were saying about it all the time, sells will keep steady as the word of mouth reaches everyone. That didn't happen. It is seeing massive drop in sells week by week. A game ultimately isn't a success if it doesn't sell onto its expectation. no matter how good review it gets. look at little big planet, no one is saying its a big success. as it sold average.

How much was it "supposed" to sell? Was there a set figure that everyone had agreed upon? It's passed a million within 2 weeks. There's no spinning that, it's a good number. We should at least wait a month or so before calling it disappointment in sales.
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[QUOTE="iqbalo_cool"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]So HW does better in US and KZ2 does better worldwide, basically. Floppy_Jim
killzone 2 isn't selling as it was hyped to be. and I thought as the fan boys were saying about it all the time, sells will keep steady as the word of mouth reaches everyone. That didn't happen. It is seeing massive drop in sells week by week. A game ultimately isn't a success if it doesn't sell onto its expectation. no matter how good review it gets. look at little big planet, no one is saying its a big success. as it sold average.

How much was it "supposed" to sell? Was there a set figure that everyone had agreed upon? It's passed a million within 2 weeks. There's no spinning that, it's a good number. We should at least wait a month or so before calling it disappointment in sales.

if it doesn't sell 21 million with 3 weeks Killzone 2 = fail, 1 million per day should be easy. (sarcasm for those that didn't get it)
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[QUOTE="iqbalo_cool"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]So HW does better in US and KZ2 does better worldwide, basically. Floppy_Jim
killzone 2 isn't selling as it was hyped to be. and I thought as the fan boys were saying about it all the time, sells will keep steady as the word of mouth reaches everyone. That didn't happen. It is seeing massive drop in sells week by week. A game ultimately isn't a success if it doesn't sell onto its expectation. no matter how good review it gets. look at little big planet, no one is saying its a big success. as it sold average.

How much was it "supposed" to sell? Was there a set figure that everyone had agreed upon? It's passed a million within 2 weeks. There's no spinning that, it's a good number. We should at least wait a month or so before calling it disappointment in sales.

Youre fogetting one thing. It has to sell 80 bajillion in 10 seconds to be considered not a sales flop.
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#19 II_Seraphim_II
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Killzone 2 is rather generic and its launch prices were outrageous. Halo Wars isn't that good either but it has the halo name so yeah, was to be expected.

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There is that word again that means "Not on my console"...."generic"
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"just wait over half the games will be returned when the kids find out its not a shooter"

another poster wrote this and i agree 100% with it

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#21 bikram89
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I could have created a new thread but...

Well KZ2 outsoled Halowars in UK in the first week

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In the second week Halo wars fell to 5th:D where as kz2 fell to 2nd

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But the point is that it outsoled halo wars.

So what do you say now people.

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Halo wars sold 445,403 copies on first week US while killzone 2 did 359,354. Also the site mentions in an earlier article halo wars sold over 250,000 in its first day. In total halo wars did 610,363 first week worldwide. Which is slightly below killzone 2 worldwide first week figure of 718,332. But halo wars sold more in first week than any console rts did in its entire lifetime. So, halo wars indeed turns out to be a AAA.

Interesting thing is the massive drop killzone 2has in its second week. It sold 168,700 on USA on the week ending 07, march. Same story goes for europe as well where Killzone 2 sold 151,111. So almost 60% drop in both areas. So, the future doesn't look good for killzone 2 in terms of sells. But it stands 1.04mworldwide, so congrats for passing 1 million.

iqbalo_cool

We already know that Xbox fans will buy anything "Halo" rated. If Master Chief was put into Nintendo's Cooking Mama game, lemmings would all be rushing out to get Wiis.

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Yeah, I think we figured out sales have little to do with quality a lot of the time.. I mean.. you throw the word Halo onto a game, even if its an underperfoming and limited RTS, it will sell well.110million
Actually if anything, we all know people like to fall for the GENERIC FPS games and not quality.
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I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

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[QUOTE="110million"]Yeah, I think we figured out sales have little to do with quality a lot of the time.. I mean.. you throw the word Halo onto a game, even if its an underperfoming and limited RTS, it will sell well.xsubtownerx
Actually if anything, we all know people like to fall for the GENERIC FPS games and not quality.

No wonder that Halo franchise sells so well ;)
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again, someone quoting VGCHARTZ.....when will you people learn they GUESS. When NPD releases their numbers they suddenly "update" the sales. The same goes for foreign sales as well. Never trust this site until 1-2 months after the release of the game, that way you know the information they are using is actually correct.
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you cows need to calm down, just admit and accept that killzone 2 is a sales flop compared to the hype it got. For the supposed super high budget and production values, it should have easily sold a couple million by now. Yet another reason why halo 3 is far superior to killzone 2. Maybe killzone 3 can top halo 3.
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[QUOTE="TechGuru89"]

Casual vs. hardcore....hmmm

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You're kidding yourself if you think KZ2 isn't casual.

But it has guns and blood! Means it is for hardcore right?

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[QUOTE="MBP_King"]

KZ2 was reported to have over a 1 million pre-order status :?

iqbalo_cool

That was a blunder sony played very well. They said it had 1.1m pre-order on europe alone. and it sold a total of merely 500 thousand in europe in 2 weeks.

LOL busted

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On the same site in the world wide sales Killzone 2 beats Halo wars to pulp

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[QUOTE="110million"]Yeah, I think we figured out sales have little to do with quality a lot of the time.. I mean.. you throw the word Halo onto a game, even if its an underperfoming and limited RTS, it will sell well.xsubtownerx
Actually if anything, we all know people like to fall for the GENERIC FPS games and not quality.

9.0 > 6.5
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]you cows need to calm down, just admit and accept that killzone 2 is a sales flop compared to the hype it got. For the supposed super high budget and production values, it should have easily sold a couple million by now. Yet another reason why halo 3 is far superior to killzone 2. Maybe killzone 3 can top halo 3.NinjaMunkey01
joke post? Halo 3 was good, Id say Killzone 2 beats it overall, but you must remember halo 3 as riding on the success of halo 2 and especially halo 1. All killzone 2 had was killzone 1, which probably helped with the low sales. Though just to add Im suprised by the sales figures, especially since not long ago on forums we had links saying that in Europe it had over a million preorders... I smell bull***t

halo scored higher on pretty much all the big review sites than killzone 2, and has a higher average on gamerankings and such. Also, it sold much much more in two weeks, probably more than killzone 2 will sell in its lifetime at this rate. Take into the fact that the online in halo 3 is much better and you have a fail for all the money put into this game. Say its better than whatever you want, but you know that it is a fail compared to how much money was put into it.
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="iqbalo_cool"] killzone 2 isn't selling as it was hyped to be. and I thought as the fan boys were saying about it all the time, sells will keep steady as the word of mouth reaches everyone. That didn't happen. It is seeing massive drop in sells week by week. A game ultimately isn't a success if it doesn't sell onto its expectation. no matter how good review it gets. look at little big planet, no one is saying its a big success. as it sold average.carlisledavid79
How much was it "supposed" to sell? Was there a set figure that everyone had agreed upon? It's passed a million within 2 weeks. There's no spinning that, it's a good number. We should at least wait a month or so before calling it disappointment in sales.

Youre fogetting one thing. It has to sell 80 bajillion in 10 seconds to be considered not a sales flop.

Ah, you're right. Anything that doesn't sell on Halo 3 levels is a complete and utter sales flop. How could I forget :o

Looks like they're going to start claiming KZ2 is a sales flop even though it outscored and outsold a Halo game, which has upset and confused them. Rather sad. :lol:

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WAIT!!!!

I said I thought those figures wereodd, nice try TC twisting figures, but lets shed some light here:

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39880&boxartz=1

these are the WORLDWIDE sales

Halo wars sales so far: 164, 960

Killzone 2 sales so far: 718, 332

Both have been out for 1 week.

:lol:

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EDIT: I posted this because another thread saying about killzone 2's sales and how it actually beat halo wars was locked. Looks like we have ourselves a biased mod today :)

EDIT mark TWO: ok no its tefluhun modding today, your not biased, just a little strict :P

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Over time Halo Wars will continue to sell games at a higher rate than Killzone 2 methinks
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WAIT!!!!

I said I thought those figures wereodd, nice try TC twisting figures, but lets shed some light here:

http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39880&boxartz=1

these are the WORLDWIDE sales

Halo wars sales so far: 164, 960

Killzone 2 sales so far: 718, 332

Both have been out for 1 week.

:lol:

................................

EDIT: I posted this because another thread saying about killzone 2's sales and how it actually beat halo wars was locked. Looks like we have ourselves a biased mod today :)

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if thats true so much for anything halo selling, looks like everybody was wrong about that
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I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

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I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

TREAL_Since

I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.

Ive seen the KZ2 commercial everyday for the last 3 weeks or so, you cant blame sony advertising for this

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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

TREAL_Since
I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.

The 700K figure is only for the first week of sales, look at the front page of VGchartz. It will have passed 1 million by now. Then again, we are talking about VGchartz numbers so who knows.
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

johnnyblazed88

I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.

Ive seen the KZ2 commercial everyday for the last 3 weeks or so, you cant blame sony advertising for this

Well then... PS3 fans who don't buy games they hype out the ass.
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#42 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.

It is sad. I mean its one of the only games out there which do vrilliantly on both the single and multiplayer. Gears 2 had a great SP mode but the MP was a little botched with lag, halo 3's online was great but imo the SP had severe problems, including horrid ally AI (remember the driving bit where the AI crashed all the time?)... Killzone 2 actually does both really well!!!! And yet it doesnt get the sales to make it seem worthwhile...
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.

ill tell you why it isnt doing those types of numbers...its because it isnt as good as those games, plain and simple. I know how much you love kz2, and i even have the game as well, but its nowhere near those games in terms of quality and content. Kz2's online is pretty much a watered down version of cod with crappy hit detection and constant kill lag. it does nothing in its online portion to make it better than halo or cod, and it doesnt do anything exceptional in the sp portion as well.
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#44 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

TREAL_Since

Ive seen the KZ2 commercial everyday for the last 3 weeks or so, you cant blame sony advertising for this

Well then... PS3 fans who don't buy games they hype out the ass.

yeah but those ads were horrid...

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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

Floppy_Jim

I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.

The 700K figure is only for the first week of sales, look at the front page of VGchartz. It will have passed 1 million by now. Then again, we are talking about VGchartz numbers so who knows.

It should be 2 million. This game deserves no less. I'm one of the biggest KZ2 freaks around, but I won't fabricate this if it's only 700K. I guarantee if this were on 360 it would have sold more.

EDIT: Not because 360 is a better console. Just that fans buy high quality shooters at an alarming rate for some reason.

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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

mtradr43

I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.

ill tell you why it isnt doing those types of numbers...its because it isnt as good as those games, plain and simple. I know how much you love kz2, and i even have the game as well, but its nowhere near those games in terms of quality and content. Kz2's online is pretty much a watered down version of cod with crappy hit detection and constant kill lag. it does nothing in its online portion to make it better than halo or cod, and it doesnt do anything exceptional in the sp portion as well.

Sales =/= Quality. Kane and Lynch sold 1.3 million on 360 ALONE :lol:.

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Both figures are impressive.
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#48 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its pretty sad tbh...

Killzone 2: A game that took years to complete, the developers worked incredibly hard to make it so good, the online, the single player, all amazing. Cost sony way more than they will get back from it, one of the greatest FPS games to come our way, possible GOTY. AAA game recieving an average of 9.4 on IGN's review averaging site...

Halo wars: A console RTS which probably took half the time to make as killzone 2, noting new, an ordinary RTS game with halo's name slapped on it for extra sales. got less than a 7 on gamespot, which means gamespot believes that if you want a decent RTS game on the 360, the best choice to go for is comand and conquer 2 (great game, even on the 360) or red aleart 3. Both of which offer more depth, and better online play.

I actually feel sorry for the devs who did so much to make this game...

And what i hate even more is the plan to make a halo baseball game... The halo series would have been great if they left it as ODST, it would have been one of the greatest console shooter seriesever. Though by the looks of it MS will milk this cash cow dry, andf the halo name will become a joke, just like sonic...

I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.

ill tell you why it isnt doing those types of numbers...its because it isnt as good as those games, plain and simple. I know how much you love kz2, and i even have the game as well, but its nowhere near those games in terms of quality and content. Kz2's online is pretty much a watered down version of cod with crappy hit detection and constant kill lag. it does nothing in its online portion to make it better than halo or cod, and it doesnt do anything exceptional in the sp portion as well.

Its not poor hit detection, the guns are made to be less accurate. COD4 was waaay too n00b for me. After a while you get the M4 carbine, stick an acog scope on it and you get something that 100% accurate and kills in 5 or so bullets... Honestly it doesnt take much to master the game... As long as you dont go run and gun crazy you can easily rack up kills killing the n00bs who do go ru and gun crazy.
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.TREAL_Since
The 700K figure is only for the first week of sales, look at the front page of VGchartz. It will have passed 1 million by now. Then again, we are talking about VGchartz numbers so who knows.

It should be 2 million. This game deserves no less. I'm one of the biggest KZ2 freaks around, but I won't fabricate this if it's only 700K. I guarantee if this were on 360 it would have sold more.

It's passed 1 million now and it's on par with the first 2 weeks of COD: WAW. And Call of Duty is ****ing huge. So I have no doubt it will pass 2 million in time. You're right, the game does deserve it.

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[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] I agree 100%. Only 700K in 2 weeks is sad for KZ2. The hype. The word of mouth. The high scores. It was all perfect killer app potential. But it was botched by advertising. WTF Sony. I'm sure it will sell better overtime, but there is no reason that KZ2 shouldn't be doing Gears or War, Gears of War 2, and Halo-like numbers.TREAL_Since
ill tell you why it isnt doing those types of numbers...its because it isnt as good as those games, plain and simple. I know how much you love kz2, and i even have the game as well, but its nowhere near those games in terms of quality and content. Kz2's online is pretty much a watered down version of cod with crappy hit detection and constant kill lag. it does nothing in its online portion to make it better than halo or cod, and it doesnt do anything exceptional in the sp portion as well.

Sales =/= Quality. Kane and Lynch sold 1.5 million on 360 ALONE :lol:.

maybe 360 games sell more than ps3 games? We all know that is true, so it wouldnt surprise me that a lot of games sell more than kz2. I am just saying that in comparison, other big names sell more because they are just better. look at reviews and whos playing online still, and youd have to be stupid to say its better than cod or halo 3. i would say it is even with gears, however.