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A new account for this? Or are you just a ban dodger?
Anyway... how about you play the games and answer the questions for yourself.... also there is this other thing called "Google"
It's pretty obvious by your post that you havent played through the games, and if you have,shame on you for even feeling the need to make this topic.
The best game story wise was the original which was released in 2001. Now thats pretty amazing in my books.
Halo 3's story was OK but atleast it ended the storyline in a sense.
Halo 1 was by far the worst storywise. It just introduced everything, which is why I feel it's fine. Halo 1 was by far the simplest though. I think you got lost my dear friend. The fact that you say Halo3 just ended it in a way that made sense is rediculous. I can't believe you missed the whole plot point about the ark, the portal, etc. Or are you one who thinks that portal was simply a thing they found? Didn't realize Medicant Bias was involved in that? lolWhy is this in SW? Anyway I'll put my two cents in to make this SW relevant. Halo's storytelling post Combat Evolved is absolutely horrible, despite there being deep lore behind things. Nice if the game actually made things like MC's origins relevant (as the teasers hinted). Hurm. And a response like telling someone to 'read the books ' essentially reinforces this notion. *Rolls toy rocket Warthog across desk*. skrat_01It doesn't have horrible storytelling. It's just doesn't humor those who wouldn't understand it either way.
[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Why is this in SW? Anyway I'll put my two cents in to make this SW relevant. Halo's storytelling post Combat Evolved is absolutely horrible, despite there being deep lore behind things. Nice if the game actually made things like MC's origins relevant (as the teasers hinted). Hurm. And a response like telling someone to 'read the books ' essentially reinforces this notion. *Rolls toy rocket Warthog across desk*. GamerX2311It doesn't have horrible storytelling. It's just doesn't humor those who wouldn't understand it either way.
The story telling is pretty bad. Or at the very least, wasn't planned all that well. That's why you need the books: to fill in the gaps. The story itself is good, however.
Id read the books just for the enjoyment. They are very good (except The Flood). I say Bungie did right in making gameplay have precedence over story telling. There are many things I would change (halo 2 mostly), but overall its very enjoyable. wolverine4262Narrative and gameplay in games can go hand in hand.
You don't need to have a complicated plot to have a convincing, fulfilling narrative that unfolds during the gameplay. Halo Combat Evolved for instance. Its storytelling is decent and carries the gameplay well. Compared to Halo 2 Bungie lost the plot introducing new characters that were supposed to be of significance two thirds of the way in, and throwing the player about with unanswered questions at each point...
Problem is the Halo games are quite plot driven (for a shooter) in pushing the player to the next set piece and giving them reason for their actions.
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Oh and I imagine the books are enjoyable, especially in getting more out of the universe.
It doesn't have horrible storytelling. It's just doesn't humor those who wouldn't understand it either way. GamerX2311No it does, especially for a plot that isn't terribly complicated.
Halo 1s story telling and narrative worked because with the first one there was a more enigmatic feel to everything about the Halo rings.
Halo 2 and 3 though, they had a lot of great ideas, a lot of depth behind the ideas, and on paper it was some rather fun stuff. But the actual execution was horrible, from the dialogue, to the script, to some of the design choices of the game that effect the story, to the way the story is told. I mean ugh I hope Halo: Reach the prequel can tell a much better story.
This is Halo i'm not asking for oscar worthy stuff here. I want something that is well executed, tightly written, and just all around fits the summer blockbuster mold without being cheesy...or atleast not too cheesy.
Lol? Did Halo 1 even have a story? Storywise the best one was definatly Halo 2 more elaborate and a bit deeper into the universe? yeah Halo 2. Better told, and better done overall Halo 1. They really didn't handle everything very well, and than there is the ending. Which ...well speaks for itself -_-[QUOTE="hreyhreyy"]
The best game story wise was the original which was released in 2001kolkov01
Narrative and gameplay in games can go hand in hand.[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]Id read the books just for the enjoyment. They are very good (except The Flood). I say Bungie did right in making gameplay have precedence over story telling. There are many things I would change (halo 2 mostly), but overall its very enjoyable. skrat_01
You don't need to have a complicated plot to have a convincing, fulfilling narrative that unfolds during the gameplay. Halo Combat Evolved for instance. Its storytelling is decent and carries the gameplay well. Compared to Halo 2 Bungie lost the plot introducing new characters that were supposed to be of significance two thirds of the way in, and throwing the player about with unanswered questions at each point...
Problem is the Halo games are quite plot driven (for a shooter) in pushing the player to the next set piece and giving them reason for their actions.
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Oh and I imagine the books are enjoyable, especially in getting more out of the universe.
It doesn't have horrible storytelling. It's just doesn't humor those who wouldn't understand it either way. GamerX2311No it does, especially for a plot that isn't terribly complicated. yeah we can sugarcoat it all we want, but it isn't like Bungie hasn't been trying to tell a tale. They were going for much more than they delivered with Halo 2, and they spent most of Halo 3 fixing up all their screw ups in Halo 2.
[QUOTE="kolkov01"]Lol? Did Halo 1 even have a story? Storywise the best one was definatly Halo 2 more elaborate and a bit deeper into the universe? yeah Halo 2. Better told, and better done overall Halo 1. They really didn't handle everything very well, and than there is the ending. Which ...well speaks for itself -_- Yeah I agree with you on that one, Halo 2's ending was awfull[QUOTE="hreyhreyy"]
The best game story wise was the original which was released in 2001jg4xchamp
It seems like System Wars tries to pretend it's a tale about aliens vs. humans. Not the case. There are 5 main factions within Halo, the covenant being one which in itself has multiple races, heretics, etc. Two main stories. One which we have fought the end of. Another which I'm sure will be told more so in the installments which 343 creates dealing with the Forerunners (origins today seemed to make it out that they are moving toward a forerunner planet and that indeed, we will see MC again). Anyway, so what I want is to play a little game. Be honest here, and see if you can answer these questions without google. These are questions coming from Halo 1-3, not necessarily anything truly difficult, but it should be a good judgement of whether or not you understand the story. And just so you understand, this is for Halo 1-3 only. These questions do not come from Wars, ODST, nor the books. Just things you should have picked up if you paid attention and were able to understand it. Simple: 1). Who built the Halo rings? 2). How many Halo rings are there? 3). What are the rings function? Within the solar system, galaxy, or universe? 4). Where is the Ark located? 5). What is the flood? How did they originate? Do they have intelligence? 6). What the heck was happening on the last level of Halo 3? 7). Who are the heretics of the covenant? 8). What is an Arbiter? And some slightly harder to what I'd call "you probably know the story well enough" questions 1). What is the purpose of the Ark? 2). Who is Medicant Bias? 3). Where are the forerunner? 4). Explain what happened with the portal at the end of Halo 3. 5). What is the Great Journey? Give it relative to both the Forerunner and Covenant. An lastly, a question the most intent should be able to comment on, the least intent will spill gibberish. There are more or less correct answers. However, it is still somewhat opinionated. The best way to answer this is to pay attention to the terminals, specifically the last one as well as 343 through the level the Library. - Explain Cortona's rampancy throughout Halo 3 including when Cortona says "this is the way the world ends"GamerX2311
1. A race known as the Forerunner
2. 7
3. As a weapon of mass destruction, which will destroy all sentient life in the Universe
4. In a place outside of the galaxy, which is accessed through a "portal" somewhere near Kenya
5. A parasitic virus, which uses the biomass of the infected to become a sort of "zombie". They were found by the forerunner, and studied, before the great forerunner-flood war. They are very intelligent, but only when they have enough mass to create a gravemind.
6. There is a Halo ring which was not created fully, so that when it is activated, it will destroy the Ark installation, thus killing the flood who arrived on the ark, and saving the Universe in the process.
7. People who have renounced the prophets, when they heard what the monitor said the rings will do.
8. A great warrior, called upon in great times of crisis, like the grunt rebellion, and the taming of the hunters.
Section 2
1. A control centre for the halo rings, which is able to remote activate rings when the system goes on standby.
2. An AI, like the monitor, who betrays the forerunner to the flood, as he was persuaded by the gravemind that the flood is the next evolutionary step.
3. The ancestors of humans, from a hundred thousand years ago, who had great technology and fully sentient AI. The covenant imitated the technology used by the forerunner, which made them more advanced then humans. However, the humans won overall, as they were able to access the forerunner systems, such as the Halo rings. This is proved, when 343 guility spark said to MC: "You are Forerunner"
4. As the Ark was malfunctioning, the portal, in true action entertainment fashion, started to close. This rupturing and turbulence caused a scorpion tank to move across, and block the way to the cockpit. This left MC in the hangar bay, trying to hold on. However, only Half the ship, known as Forward Unto Dawn, got through, while the other half was broken off. This left MC somewhere in deep space.
5. The great journey, is a device used by the prophets to control the population. Apparently, when the rings were activated, the covenant will go on to some great journey, eradicating some who weren't worthy in their eyes, such as the humans. To the forerunner, when the rings were activated, they would go to a "shield world", as one shown in Ghosts of Onyx. However, they did not get there, as Mendicant Bias Betrayed them.
Section 3
Pass.
EDIT- All from my head. No research used at all.
I agree with TC in the belief that most Halo story bashers don't understand it's universe other than what's on its surface. Sure it's story isn't original, but I think its has enough lore and depth to keep things interesting. My only real gripe with the Halo universe is the lack of dedicated characters and not enough internal conflicts on the protagonist side.
LOL final fantasy X, Max payne,MGS2 and Devil may cry all say hello. So If Halo's story in 2001 was amazing in your books, then these games must obliterate it.The best game story wise was the original which was released in 2001. Now thats pretty amazing in my books.
Halo 3's story was OK but atleast it ended the storyline in a sense.
hreyhreyy
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The best game story wise was the original which was released in 2001
Lol? Did Halo 1 even have a story? Storywise the best one was definatly Halo 2 more elaborate and a bit deeper into the universe? yeah Halo 2. Better told, and better done overall Halo 1. They really didn't handle everything very well, and than there is the ending. Which ...well speaks for itself -_- "Ending" is a funny choice of words you use there. :) I almost threw my controller at the television, lol... Love the games, but that cliffhanger riled me up pretty badly!I never really played enough of Halo 1 and 2 to comment, but judging by Halo 3 the story is extremely medicore, and I'm using games as a reference, not like you MGS haters that compare it to great literature and cinema and call it crap.
The best game story wise was the original which was released in 2001. Now thats pretty amazing in my books.
Halo 3's story was OK but atleast it ended the storyline in a sense.
LOL final fantasy X, Max payne,MGS2 and Devil may cry all say hello. So If Halo's story in 2001 was amazing in your books, then these games must obliterate it. he's talking about from the seriesThe best game story wise was the original which was released in 2001. Now thats pretty amazing in my books.
Halo 3's story was OK but atleast it ended the storyline in a sense.
Halo 1 was by far the worst storywise. It just introduced everything, which is why I feel it's fine. Halo 1 was by far the simplest though. I think you got lost my dear friend. The fact that you say Halo3 just ended it in a way that made sense is rediculous. I can't believe you missed the whole plot point about the ark, the portal, etc. Or are you one who thinks that portal was simply a thing they found? Didn't realize Medicant Bias was involved in that? lol I liked the story in 1 best, BECAUSE it was simple. 2 was the worst. Even Bungie admits it was a rush job.The best game story wise was the original which was released in 2001. Now thats pretty amazing in my books.
Halo 3's story was OK but atleast it ended the storyline in a sense.
LOL final fantasy X, Max payne,MGS2 and Devil may cry all say hello. So If Halo's story in 2001 was amazing in your books, then these games must obliterate it. he's talking about from the series My mistake then, he makes it seem as if the sotry from halo 1 in 2001 was pretty amazing.Why is this in SW? Anyway I'll put my two cents in to make this SW relevant. Halo's storytelling post Combat Evolved is absolutely horrible, despite there being deep lore behind things. Nice if the game actually made things like MC's origins relevant (as the teasers hinted). Hurm. And a response like telling someone to 'read the books ' essentially reinforces this notion. *Rolls toy rocket Warthog across desk*. skrat_01There's a timeline section in Halo Wars that tells that. :|
Who's bashing MGS here? Thanks for judging a story by not playing it completly though. :roll:I never really played enough of Halo 1 and 2 to comment, but judging by Halo 3 the story is extremely medicore, and I'm using games as a reference, not like you MGS haters that compare it to great literature and cinema and call it crap.
Eddie-Vedder
Why is this in System Wars? Sure Halo's story is pretty flawed but it's not like Halo's rivals have any better stories (if you ask me). Heck story doesn't tend to be much of a priority in shooters in general. Some including myself would say that games like Halo and Half-Life are the best you can get with this genre.
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