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#1 Sp4rtan_3
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Defiant Map pack trailer

First map pack not directly made by Bungie itself :o !! 343 seems to be proving themselves a competent handler of the Halo universe :D

Plus the music is just amazing.

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#2 Badosh
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Saw this earlier today, the maps looks pretty good.
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And to think, the maps were made by 343 and Certain Affinity, the makers of Age of Booty.

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#4 Ross_the_Boss6
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I haven't even bought the first map pack. :( They look good though.

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Sweetness and we heart you too. :oops:

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#6 Animal-Mother
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Defiant Map pack trailer

First map pack not directly made by Bungie itself :o !! 343 seems to be proving themselves a competent handler of the Halo universe :D

Plus the music is just amazing.

Sp4rtan_3
Yes because making a map pack shows how you can handle a whole franchise of games :?
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#7 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

Defiant Map pack trailer

First map pack not directly made by Bungie itself :o !! 343 seems to be proving themselves a competent handler of the Halo universe :D

Plus the music is just amazing.

Animal-Mother
Yes because making a map pack shows how you can handle a whole franchise of games :?

If the map packs are carrying on the tradition of the game and they are just as well done why not ? Reach is known for its great MP so 343 and this other studio seemed to have done a bang up job carrying the torch.
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can't wait...condemned looks amazing

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

Defiant Map pack trailer

First map pack not directly made by Bungie itself :o !! 343 seems to be proving themselves a competent handler of the Halo universe :D

Plus the music is just amazing.

Animal-Mother
Yes because making a map pack shows how you can handle a whole franchise of games :?

It would be a damn good indication, no? Especially considering how picky Halo fans can be over maps considering the long history.
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#10 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

Defiant Map pack trailer

First map pack not directly made by Bungie itself :o !! 343 seems to be proving themselves a competent handler of the Halo universe :D

Plus the music is just amazing.

Sp4rtan_3
Yes because making a map pack shows how you can handle a whole franchise of games :?

If the map packs are carrying on the tradition of the game and they are just as well done why not ? Reach is known for its great MP so 343 and this other studio seemed to have done a bang up job carrying the torch.

I never said they couldn't carry the torch. But lets be real here. These are map packs. It's not a full game, it's not a big budget production. Just map packs. I mean im not doubting what 343 Can do. Lets just wait and see what they CAN do. Instead of stating how map packs can show they can handle a franchise of 5 very successful games.
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#11 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

Defiant Map pack trailer

First map pack not directly made by Bungie itself :o !! 343 seems to be proving themselves a competent handler of the Halo universe :D

Plus the music is just amazing.

Ravensmash

Yes because making a map pack shows how you can handle a whole franchise of games :?

It would be a damn good indication, no? Especially considering how picky Halo fans can be over maps considering the long history.

yeah, but again these are just maps of all things. Also these maps haven't come out. who knows they could end up being horrendous. I've been here long enough to see people get super excited and disappointed in one fell swoop.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Yes because making a map pack shows how you can handle a whole franchise of games :?

If the map packs are carrying on the tradition of the game and they are just as well done why not ? Reach is known for its great MP so 343 and this other studio seemed to have done a bang up job carrying the torch.

I never said they couldn't carry the torch. But lets be real here. These are map packs. It's not a full game, it's not a big budget production. Just map packs. I mean im not doubting what 343 Can do. Lets just wait and see what they CAN do. Instead of stating how map packs can show they can handle a franchise of 5 very successful games.

It's simple, they deliver a pack of critically well recieved maps, and they gain the trust of the fanbase (who may be skeptical at the moment). I actually think it's a clever way to ease them into the process.
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#13 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"] If the map packs are carrying on the tradition of the game and they are just as well done why not ? Reach is known for its great MP so 343 and this other studio seemed to have done a bang up job carrying the torch.Ravensmash
I never said they couldn't carry the torch. But lets be real here. These are map packs. It's not a full game, it's not a big budget production. Just map packs. I mean im not doubting what 343 Can do. Lets just wait and see what they CAN do. Instead of stating how map packs can show they can handle a franchise of 5 very successful games.

It's simple, they deliver a pack of critically well recieved maps, and they gain the trust of the fanbase (who may be skeptical at the moment). I actually think it's a clever way to ease them into the process.

Tell me, what indication does this have of them actually making a good campaign. Absolutely zero. It show's they can make good maps. Thats all. We all forget their making maps for a bungie game. So for all we know bungie has had a heavy hand in.

And ohh Look they have

"It's worth noting that the maps were created "in partnership" with Age of Booty developer Certain Affinity, a team of Bungie vets that has made maps for Call of Duty: Black Ops,World at War, and Halo 2."

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Yes because making a map pack shows how you can handle a whole franchise of games :?Animal-Mother
If the map packs are carrying on the tradition of the game and they are just as well done why not ? Reach is known for its great MP so 343 and this other studio seemed to have done a bang up job carrying the torch.

I never said they couldn't carry the torch. But lets be real here. These are map packs. It's not a full game, it's not a big budget production. Just map packs. I mean im not doubting what 343 Can do. Lets just wait and see what they CAN do. Instead of stating how map packs can show they can handle a franchise of 5 very successful games.

You be careful those sour grapes don't turn bitter when 343's Halo CE Remake does what no Bungie Halo has yet achieved....

AAAAE from GS. :shock:

:P Ya know me, I kid, I kid. :P

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Am I the only one unimpressed with that trailerDon't get me wrong I'll be buying it as soon as it's released but still some of the environments look too familiar. Only time will tell I guess when I actually play on these maps. Also did they really need to include a firefight map? Lame. I'll still buy it just a bit disappointed.

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You be careful those sour grapes don't turn bitter when 343's Halo CE Remake does what no Bungie Halo has yet achieved....

AAAAE from GS. :shock:

:P Ya know me, I kid, I kid. :P

SecretPolice

I thought the CE Remake was handled by Saber Interactive, an average developer?

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Yes because making a map pack shows how you can handle a whole franchise of games :?

If the map packs are carrying on the tradition of the game and they are just as well done why not ? Reach is known for its great MP so 343 and this other studio seemed to have done a bang up job carrying the torch.

I never said they couldn't carry the torch. But lets be real here. These are map packs. It's not a full game, it's not a big budget production. Just map packs. I mean im not doubting what 343 Can do. Lets just wait and see what they CAN do. Instead of stating how map packs can show they can handle a franchise of 5 very successful games.

Its an uphill battle but I see 343 handling halo with the same carrying and high regard as Bungie. A lot of old bungie folks are at 343 so this isn't some start up young studio these people OBVIOUSLY know what they're doing. If this map pack is better then Bungies map pack then I have all the confidence they can provide an amazing halo experience (non reach related) being skeptical wont help a bit.
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#18 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"] If the map packs are carrying on the tradition of the game and they are just as well done why not ? Reach is known for its great MP so 343 and this other studio seemed to have done a bang up job carrying the torch.Sp4rtan_3
I never said they couldn't carry the torch. But lets be real here. These are map packs. It's not a full game, it's not a big budget production. Just map packs. I mean im not doubting what 343 Can do. Lets just wait and see what they CAN do. Instead of stating how map packs can show they can handle a franchise of 5 very successful games.

Its an uphill battle but I see 343 handling halo with the same carrying and high regard as Bungie. A lot of old bungie folks are at 343 so this isn't some start up young studio these people OBVIOUSLY know what they're doing. If this map pack is better then Bungies map pack then I have all the confidence they can provide an amazing halo experience (non reach related) being skeptical wont help a bit.

Ohh ya I know 343 has got the talent. But do they have the Bungie magic touch? I'm Just skeptical because their maps of all things. It's like saying ohh look at this awesome map and so and so game. Then the actual game ends up stinkin up the place.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

You be careful those sour grapes don't turn bitter when 343's Halo CE Remake does what no Bungie Halo has yet achieved....

AAAAE from GS. :shock:

:P Ya know me, I kid, I kid. :P

waltefmoney

I thought the CE Remake was handled by Saber Interactive, an average developer?

With 343 under the tutelage of Bungie and Saber under the tutelage of 343.. how can Halo CE Remake miss ? :twisted:

Again, me just kidding around a bit though I do feel Remake will be a great game with tons of Fanfare. :D

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#20 LegatoSkyheart
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Those Maps look better than the Previous ones.

But I Liked the Song they used.

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A few things

1- The standard Halo theme is so much better than the music selection in that trailer. So this Trailer>that trailer by default.

2- ugh eww a Firefight map? Give me more MP maps. The game doesn't have enough new spaces as it is, and all they give is 2? None of which I guess will work in Invasion?

3- They need to do what they used to do with Halo 2(early parts of Halo 3). When a new map pack comes out, the old ones become free

4- At the least the 2 new mp maps look better than a lot of the stupid maps Bungie thought up in between.

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By the way these new maps were released quite fast. Does this mean we can expect more maps than what was released for Halo 3? I mean they should especially if they're going to throw firefight maps in the mix.

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but Bungie made those maps

all DLC is just content removed from the game to be sold later, its been proven with many games, recently Crysis 2 leaked beta showed they were doing the same thing

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but Bungie made those maps

all DLC is just content removed from the game to be sold later, its been proven with many games, recently Crysis 2 leaked beta showed they were doing the same thing

HaloinventedFPS
But it says that 343 made those maps.
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A few things

1- The standard Halo theme is so much better than the music selection in that trailer. So this Trailer>that trailer by default.

2- ugh eww a Firefight map? Give me more MP maps. The game doesn't have enough new spaces as it is, and all they give is 2? None of which I guess will work in Invasion?

3- They need to do what they used to do with Halo 2(early parts of Halo 3). When a new map pack comes out, the old ones become free

4- At the least the 2 new mp maps look better than a lot of the stupid maps Bungie thought up in between.

jg4xchamp

2. We need more firefight maps I think

3. They can't make the maps free anymore since M$ controls pricing

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#26 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

but Bungie made those maps

all DLC is just content removed from the game to be sold later, its been proven with many games, recently Crysis 2 leaked beta showed they were doing the same thing

Ravensmash

But it says that 343 made those maps.

lol, just like Infinity ward were working on the 2nd MW2 map pack, even tho infinity ward were shut down 2 weeks before

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

You be careful those sour grapes don't turn bitter when 343's Halo CE Remake does what no Bungie Halo has yet achieved....

AAAAE from GS. :shock:

:P Ya know me, I kid, I kid. :P

waltefmoney

I thought the CE Remake was handled by Saber Interactive, an average developer?

The CE remake has already been dismissed over and over by Microsoft and 343i why are people still going on about it?

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

but Bungie made those maps

all DLC is just content removed from the game to be sold later, its been proven with many games, recently Crysis 2 leaked beta showed they were doing the same thing

HaloinventedFPS

But it says that 343 made those maps.

lol, just like Infinity ward were working on the 2nd MW2 map pack, even tho infinity ward were shut down 2 weeks before

Well 343 haven't been shut down, so that's pretty irrelevant.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

A few things

1- The standard Halo theme is so much better than the music selection in that trailer. So this Trailer>that trailer by default.

2- ugh eww a Firefight map? Give me more MP maps. The game doesn't have enough new spaces as it is, and all they give is 2? None of which I guess will work in Invasion?

3- They need to do what they used to do with Halo 2(early parts of Halo 3). When a new map pack comes out, the old ones become free

4- At the least the 2 new mp maps look better than a lot of the stupid maps Bungie thought up in between.

Sp4rtan_3

2. We need more firefight maps I think

3. They can't make the maps free anymore since M$ controls pricing

2: ugh well do a separate one, or at the least give more multiplayer maps.
3: I know, I'd still like to see it happen that way. A man can dream no?

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

A few things

1- The standard Halo theme is so much better than the music selection in that trailer. So this Trailer>that trailer by default.

2- ugh eww a Firefight map? Give me more MP maps. The game doesn't have enough new spaces as it is, and all they give is 2? None of which I guess will work in Invasion?

3- They need to do what they used to do with Halo 2(early parts of Halo 3). When a new map pack comes out, the old ones become free

4- At the least the 2 new mp maps look better than a lot of the stupid maps Bungie thought up in between.

Sp4rtan_3

2. We need more firefight maps I think

3. They can't make the maps free anymore since M$ controls pricing

Are you serious? Then that's an automatic failure. So there goes the chance of having any of these maps going mainstream in the playlists. You can only play in dedicated DLC playlists for so long.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

You be careful those sour grapes don't turn bitter when 343's Halo CE Remake does what no Bungie Halo has yet achieved....

AAAAE from GS. :shock:

:P Ya know me, I kid, I kid. :P

MobilechicaneX

I thought the CE Remake was handled by Saber Interactive, an average developer?

The CE remake has already been dismissed over and over by Microsoft and 343i why are people still going on about it?

A prequel to Halo CE was dismissed over & over so why do people still bring up Reach ? :twisted:

:P

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wow that was awesome :)
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#33 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

A few things

1- The standard Halo theme is so much better than the music selection in that trailer. So this Trailer>that trailer by default.

2- ugh eww a Firefight map? Give me more MP maps. The game doesn't have enough new spaces as it is, and all they give is 2? None of which I guess will work in Invasion?

3- They need to do what they used to do with Halo 2(early parts of Halo 3). When a new map pack comes out, the old ones become free

4- At the least the 2 new mp maps look better than a lot of the stupid maps Bungie thought up in between.

T-razor1

2. We need more firefight maps I think

3. They can't make the maps free anymore since M$ controls pricing

Are you serious? Then that's an automatic failure. So there goes the chance of having any of these maps going mainstream in the playlists. You can only play in dedicated DLC playlists for so long.

Basically this. I'm fine with map packs, and if I know my friends will get em. I'll get them since I'll play with em. That said after awhile they should go free so the process is a win/win. The company is able to make some money off their work(because lets all be fair here they are technically still doing work), and those of the community that are patient will get the maps eventually. Sadly Halo carries enough power that having em free really doesn't work in favor of MS *sigh*

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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

I thought the CE Remake was handled by Saber Interactive, an average developer?

SecretPolice

The CE remake has already been dismissed over and over by Microsoft and 343i why are people still going on about it?

A prequel to Halo CE was dismissed over & over so why do people still bring up Reach ? :twisted:

:P

haha yes this, Reach was also never in production :P
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After watching the trailer I feel this should take away some of the worries about 343
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Defiant Map pack trailer

First map pack not directly made by Bungie itself :o !! 343 seems to be proving themselves a competent handler of the Halo universe :D

Plus the music is just amazing.

Sp4rtan_3
Is it free?
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#37 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

Defiant Map pack trailer

First map pack not directly made by Bungie itself :o !! 343 seems to be proving themselves a competent handler of the Halo universe :D

Plus the music is just amazing.

Mozelleple112

Is it free?

:lol: good one :|

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#38 catfishmoon23
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Looks pretty cool, but I would be more excited if they released competitive maps separate from firefight maps (i.e. 3 competive maps in one pack and 3 firefight maps in another). I don't use firefight anymore because I find it boring, so that basically makes one of these maps useless to me.