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#1 cod4ownzzz
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I remember there were tons of games coming that we were all supposed to get, like assassins creed and kane & lynch. Even though both of these scored below expectations, normally i probably would have picked up both (like i did with stranglehold), but cod4 is so addictive, im not even interested. I literally have no interest in any game period at the moment, let alone mulitplayer games.

I know there are a lot of multiplayer (multiplat) games coming on ps3/360, but im not looking forward to them nearly as much as before. I love the levelling system they have, and every game needs to copy it, unfortunately 90-95 % will not. Hopefully socom will and rb6 already had a similar thing.

Best bits: There is nothing more satisfying than killing the guy that killed you (last stand). Also levelling up system and unlocking weapons. Size of the online community.

Best kills: (i) Killing someone far away behind a wall by guessing where they are (you know they're in the room, but not sure where).

(ii) Killing someone (with an assault rifle) so far away that your not even sure if there's anyone there.

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#2 jlh47
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assassins creed didn't score below... cod 4 is great as well.
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#3 Fignewton50
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I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

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#4 majadamus
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Socom 4 will be online multiplayer gaming heaven. Can't wait.
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#5 ganon546
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Still haven't bought CoD4 yet but it looks amazing.
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#6 Meu2k7
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CoD4 killed the £30 I want back :(
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#7 cobrax75
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I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

Fignewton50

the kill cam was in COD2 wasnt int?

or could that been a mod I played?

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#8 PBSnipes
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I hate the leveling up, nothing worse than dying because the other guy has more free time than you do and not because of skill. There have been far too many times when I've died at least partially because I haven't unlocked the ACOG scope, or overkill or some other perk. Also the leveling system hurt the gameplay, I know I've been playing below my skill level because I've been too worried about leveling up a weapon to get the extra experience than winning the game. I know my best weapons (depending on the level/situation) are the M16, MP5 and Dragunov but I've been using other, less effective weapons because I want to level up. I will get more points going 15-10 with a AK47 or M249 than I will going 20-10 with an M16 because my M16 is fully upgraded (exept for the last 2 expert levels, which are a pain in the ass) and I have 1750xp to unlock just on the marksman challenges for the AK47.

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#9 majadamus
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I hate the leveling up, nothing worse than dying because the other guy has more free time than you do and not because of skill. There have been far too many times when I've died at least partially because I haven't unlocked the ACOG scope, or overkill or some other perk. Also the leveling system hurt the gameplay, I know I've been playing below my skill level because I've been too worried about leveling up a weapon to get the extra experience than winning the game. I know my best weapons (depending on the level/situation) are the M16, MP5 and Dragunov but I've been using other, less effective weapons because I want to level up. I will get more points going 15-10 with a AK47 or M249 than I will going 20-10 with an M16 because my M16 is fully upgraded (exept for the last 2 expert levels, which are a pain in the ass) and I have 1750xp to unlock just on the marksman challenges for the AK47.

PBSnipes

I agree. Use paragraphs next time.

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I hate the leveling up, nothing worse than dying because the other guy has more free time than you do and not because of skill. There have been far too many times when I've died at least partially because I haven't unlocked the ACOG scope, or overkill or some other perk. Also the leveling system hurt the gameplay, I know I've been playing below my skill level because I've been too worried about leveling up a weapon to get the extra experience than winning the game. I know my best weapons (depending on the level/situation) are the M16, MP5 and Dragunov but I've been using other, less effective weapons because I want to level up. I will get more points going 15-10 with a AK47 or M249 than I will going 20-10 with an M16 because my M16 is fully upgraded (exept for the last 2 expert levels, which are a pain in the ass) and I have 1750xp to unlock just on the marksman challenges for the AK47.

PBSnipes

kill them get their weapon....not hard

leveling up is awesome early weapons are great too

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#11 REforever101
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

cobrax75

the kill cam was in COD2 wasnt int?

or could that been a mod I played?

the kill cam is old as hell. it was in the FIRST cod

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#12 GoodkupoBan
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I'm going to avoid COD4 for now and just buy Unreal Tournament 3 next Monday.
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I hate the leveling up, nothing worse than dying because the other guy has more free time than you do and not because of skill. There have been far too many times when I've died at least partially because I haven't unlocked the ACOG scope, or overkill or some other perk. Also the leveling system hurt the gameplay, I know I've been playing below my skill level because I've been too worried about leveling up a weapon to get the extra experience than winning the game. I know my best weapons (depending on the level/situation) are the M16, MP5 and Dragunov but I've been using other, less effective weapons because I want to level up. I will get more points going 15-10 with a AK47 or M249 than I will going 20-10 with an M16 because my M16 is fully upgraded (exept for the last 2 expert levels, which are a pain in the ass) and I have 1750xp to unlock just on the marksman challenges for the AK47.

PBSnipes

wow u must really suck. im only at level 22, yet ive beaten out every guy ive seen that was already at level 40 - 50

i never lose. ive only ever not been the mvp in exactly 4 games, no joke

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#14 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

REforever101

the kill cam was in COD2 wasnt int?

or could that been a mod I played?

the kill cam is old as hell. it was in the FIRST cod

yeah...thats what I though...it seemed really strange that people were so excited over this to me.

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#15 Fignewton50
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

cobrax75

the kill cam was in COD2 wasnt int?

or could that been a mod I played?

Yeah it was. It was in COD1 too.

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#16 kevbo77
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

cobrax75

the kill cam was in COD2 wasnt int?

or could that been a mod I played?

The PC version did. I think the original COD had it too. I have a question guys. I've had COD4 for a week and finally got on Live. I'm a level 16 gunnery sergeant (I think). How do you level up individual weapons? Just by getting kills with them, or do they level up when you level up? Thanks in advance.

Yeah, I haven't had this much fun on a console MP game ever, and the last time I had this much fun in a MP game period was with SOFII back in like 2002-2004. Yes, I have an ancient PC that would laugh at me if I tried to install Crysis.

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#17 halokillerz
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I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

Fignewton50

i would rather have instant spawn then kill-cam, but i never played CoD 4 yet so i dunno if it has both

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#18 REforever101
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

kevbo77

the kill cam was in COD2 wasnt int?

or could that been a mod I played?

The PC version did. I think the original COD had it too. I have a question guys. I've had COD4 for a week and finally got on Live. I'm a level 16 gunnery sergeant (I think). How do you level up individual weapons? Just by getting kills with them, or do they level up when you level up? Thanks in advance.

Yeah, I haven't had this much fun on a console MP game ever, and the last time I had this much fun in a MP game period was with SOFII back in like 2002-2004. Yes, I have an ancient PC that would laugh at me if I tried to install Crysis.

guns dont "level up" all u can do is unlock extra attachments and paints for them. and u do that by completing the challenges allotted to that weapon (which can be viewed in the barracks)

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#19 Fignewton50
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

halokillerz

i would rather have instant spawn then kill-cam, but i never played CoD 4 yet so i dunno if it has both

You only watch the kill-cam if you want to. You can click through it and instantly spawn.

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#20 REforever101
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[QUOTE="halokillerz"][QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

Fignewton50

i would rather have instant spawn then kill-cam, but i never played CoD 4 yet so i dunno if it has both

You only watch the kill-cam if you want to. You can click through it and instantly spawn.

yup, actually, come to think of it, i dont think ive even watched the kill cam yet. i always just jam on the a button when i die, and i come back instantly

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I personally don't really see what's so amazing about Call of Duty 4's multiplayer. I've played it for a couple of hours, and, while fun, it's basically a run-n-gun kill fest full of grenade spamming. I can see myself losing complete interest after another 10 hours of playing. CoD4 made me understand why Valve decided to put in the long respawn delay and to ditch grenades in Team Fortress 2.
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#22 cod4ownzzz
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What are everyones best kills?

IMO there is nothing more satisfying than killing the guy that killed you (last stand). Martyrdom is cheating! The only unfair thing about last stand is beginners dont have it.

Other good kills are the ones you think are not possible, but you go for it anyway, or when you think you can see someone but you're not sure but you get a kill.

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#23 ArisShadows
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Socom 4 will be online multiplayer gaming heaven. Can't wait. majadamus

That will be a game I be getting whenever I get a PS3.

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I hate the leveling up, nothing worse than dying because the other guy has more free time than you do and not because of skill. There have been far too many times when I've died at least partially because I haven't unlocked the ACOG scope, or overkill or some other perk. Also the leveling system hurt the gameplay, I know I've been playing below my skill level because I've been too worried about leveling up a weapon to get the extra experience than winning the game. I know my best weapons (depending on the level/situation) are the M16, MP5 and Dragunov but I've been using other, less effective weapons because I want to level up. I will get more points going 15-10 with a AK47 or M249 than I will going 20-10 with an M16 because my M16 is fully upgraded (exept for the last 2 expert levels, which are a pain in the ass) and I have 1750xp to unlock just on the marksman challenges for the AK47.

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#25 cod4ownzzz
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I personally don't really see what's so amazing about Call of Duty 4's multiplayer. I've played it for a couple of hours, and, while fun, it's basically a run-n-gun kill fest full of grenade spamming. I can see myself losing complete interest after another 10 hours of playing. CoD4 made me understand why Valve decided to put in the long respawn delay and to ditch grenades.Einhanderkiller

The levelling up system and the 'mastering' of each weapon

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#26 REforever101
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What are everyones best kills?

IMO there is nothing more satisfying than killing the guy that killed you (last stand). Martyrdom is cheating! The only unfair thing about last stand is beginners dont have it.

Other good kills are the ones you think are not possible, but you go for it anyway, or when you think you can see someone but you're not sure but you get a kill.

cod4ownzzz

i once got a double headshot with deep impact

then theres the time, on vacant, i killed this dude, and he dropped a live granade (martyrdom). so i quickly picked it up and through it down a random hallway, and i got a triple kill. total luck, but it was cool

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#27 Muzzle_Flashes
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No, the game is great!:)

nothing better than being forced to run out because the entire other team is camping in the grass!

Nothing better than 97% of your deaths occuring because of wrong place wrong time!*Watching on the persons screen the time you turn around a corner they at the same time turn and happen to see you and kill you, all chance*

Walking around corners only to be blown up by claymores!:)

All your teamates suck so your the last one alive being jumped :)

Shooting someone then their teamate coming out of nowhere and killing you :)

Grenades...RPG's...etc.... by campers or poeple who run away and throw them at you!:)

People running away when shot, then coming back and killing you :), if you go to them, their teamate out of nowhere comes and kills you....

etc... the list goes on...this game is a camping/explosive fest that takes no skill...

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I'm really enjoying CoD4 at the moment, it's shifted my focus away from TF2 for a while.
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No, the game is great!:)

nothing better than being forced to run out because the entire other team is camping in the grass!

Nothing better than 97% of your deaths occuring because of wrong place wrong time!*Watching on the persons screen the time you turn around a corner they at the same time turn and happen to see you and kill you, all chance*

Walking around corners only to be blown up by claymores!:)

All your teamates suck so your the last one alive being jumped :)

Shooting someone then their teamate coming out of nowhere and killing you :)

Grenades...RPG's...etc.... by campers or poeple who run away and throw them at you!:)

People running away when shot, then coming back and killing you :), if you go to them, their teamate out of nowhere comes and kills you....

etc... the list goes on...this game is a camping/explosive fest that takes no skill...

Muzzle_Flashes

A lot of those things happen in Halo as well.

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COD4+ oldcore and HQ mode= set for 2 years
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#31 gingerdivid
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What are everyones best kills?

IMO there is nothing more satisfying than killing the guy that killed you (last stand). Martyrdom is cheating! The only unfair thing about last stand is beginners dont have it.

Other good kills are the ones you think are not possible, but you go for it anyway, or when you think you can see someone but you're not sure but you get a kill.

cod4ownzzz

Today I knifed a heavy machine gunner, mounted his gun and killed 7 enemies from behind, 10 kill streak. :D

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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

I hate the leveling up, nothing worse than dying because the other guy has more free time than you do and not because of skill. There have been far too many times when I've died at least partially because I haven't unlocked the ACOG scope, or overkill or some other perk. Also the leveling system hurt the gameplay, I know I've been playing below my skill level because I've been too worried about leveling up a weapon to get the extra experience than winning the game. I know my best weapons (depending on the level/situation) are the M16, MP5 and Dragunov but I've been using other, less effective weapons because I want to level up. I will get more points going 15-10 with a AK47 or M249 than I will going 20-10 with an M16 because my M16 is fully upgraded (exept for the last 2 expert levels, which are a pain in the ass) and I have 1750xp to unlock just on the marksman challenges for the AK47.

REforever101

wow u must really suck. im only at level 22, yet ive beaten out every guy ive seen that was already at level 40 - 50

i never lose. ive only ever not been the mvp in exactly 4 games, no joke

I'm a level 30 and am generally one of the top scorers if not MVP. My problem is by level 30 you need 2000+ xp to level up, so you can obviously level much faster by going through the various weapons challenges, which give you a total of 3500xp/weapon (for ARs, SMGs and LMGs). So in order to get to lvl 55 (and then prestige mode) faster I'm trying to fully level up all my weapons. Like I said I generally go ~20-10 when I'm using one of my "good" weapons (usually good enough for MVP) but only around ~15-10 when I'm using another weapon I'm less skilled with. I am performing below my skill level because the game puts a focus on leveling up instead of winning.

As for losing to higher rankings, my point was there are some very powerful weapons and perks available to the higher levels, particularily the overkill ability (which gives you 2 primary weapons). So if I'm using, say, an M16 and fighting an opposing player with overkill and using an MP5 and a M14 I am almost always at a disadvantage. Thats not to say I get killed every time (I tend to win my gunfights) but just because another player has more free time (and therefore can level more) he has a distinct advantage over me, regardless of skill.

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#33 JocktheMotie
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No, the game is great!:)

nothing better than being forced to run out because the entire other team is camping in the grass!

Nothing better than 97% of your deaths occuring because of wrong place wrong time!*Watching on the persons screen the time you turn around a corner they at the same time turn and happen to see you and kill you, all chance*

Walking around corners only to be blown up by claymores!:)

All your teamates suck so your the last one alive being jumped :)

Shooting someone then their teamate coming out of nowhere and killing you :)

Grenades...RPG's...etc.... by campers or poeple who run away and throw them at you!:)

People running away when shot, then coming back and killing you :), if you go to them, their teamate out of nowhere comes and kills you....

etc... the list goes on...this game is a camping/explosive fest that takes no skill...

Muzzle_Flashes

Then go play Halo. And leave COD4 to the big boys.

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i kinda agree with you but id still rather have UT3
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#35 Lemmywinks_360
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Cod4's online is sooo fun. I just fully completed my ak-47 challenges. I can't wait until i fully complete the assult group to get my lord of war golden ak.:)
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#36 mattyomo99
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I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

Fignewton50

killcam is dumb, your hiding place is given away

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#37 Vandalvideo
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It actually reinvigorated gaming for me. Many of the people from the late 90s in my clan are beginning to come back after a few years of hiatus. The community is HUGE on the pc for this game.
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#38 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

I've only played the demo but Call of Duty has always had amazing multiplayer. The "kill-cam" is an awesome addition to multiplayer shooters.

I love it when you see the guy running up behind you, and you're screaming at yourself to "Turn around you idiot!".

mattyomo99

killcam is dumb, your hiding place is given away

I agree...they used to have something similar in battlefield...and removed it eventually, after they realized it completly removed the role of the sniper...and many other roles....

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#39 Nin360
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I remember there were tons of games coming that we were all supposed to get, like assassins creed and kane & lynch. Even though both of these scored below expectations, normally i probably would have picked up both (like i did with stranglehold), but cod4 is so addictive, im not even interested. I literally have no interest in any game period at the moment, let alone mulitplayer games.

I know there are a lot of multiplayer (multiplat) games coming on ps3/360, but im not looking forward to them nearly as much as before. I love the levelling system they have, and every game needs to copy it, unfortunately 90-95 % will not. Hopefully socom will and rb6 already had a similar thing.

Best bits: There is nothing more satisfying than killing the guy that killed you (last stand). Also levelling up system and unlocking weapons. Size of the online community.

Best kills: (i) Killing someone far away behind a wall by guessing where they are (you know they're in the room, but not sure where).

(ii) Killing someone (with an assault rifle) so far away that your not even sure if there's anyone there.

cod4ownzzz

I am picking up some games but am also am hooked to cod 4 too. I hear ya

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#40 GIJesse77
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I knew cod 4 multiplayer would be freakin fun, but still, i still had more fun with the cod 2 multiplayer, that was gaming heaven,. i still wish they would port cod 2 to PS3.
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#41 The_Ish
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The game has me hooked.

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#42 NFJSupreme
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CoD4 killed the £30 I want back :(Meu2k7

damn the american dollar is worthless.

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#43 MgamerBD
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The game is great i don't see myself going back to Halo. Another is that the weapons make u strive to the best. Can't wait to get the 50 calibur sniper rifle. Anyway if u got it how is it.?:)
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#44 The_Ish
Member since 2006 • 13913 Posts

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]CoD4 killed the £30 I want back :(NFJSupreme

damn the american dollar is worthless.

Do you live in the UK or something? Because thats the only way you can make that statement, really.

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#45 Donkey_Puncher
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I don't know, I don't not really feeling COD4 right now. The SP was short and the respawning enemies seems like one of THE WORST design flaws in the game I can think of. As for the MP, I've tried it for a few hours and it's fun, but I can't see myself staying and playing it for long.
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#46 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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I wish it had saved replays like halo 3 :( because some of the macthes are so epic you just wana watch it again.
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#47 FancyKetchup25
Member since 2006 • 3007 Posts
Yeah because like noone plays TF2 on live anymore, im gonna have to just pick it up for PC soon.
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#48 OremLK
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I'm going to avoid COD4 for now and just buy Unreal Tournament 3 next Monday.GoodkupoBan

Same, the multiplayer in the demo was an impressive return to form for the UT series, and there's been a dearth of traditional (Quake-style) multiplayer shooters lately.

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#49 Jibil
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I personally don't really see what's so amazing about Call of Duty 4's multiplayer. I've played it for a couple of hours, and, while fun, it's basically a run-n-gun kill fest full of grenade spamming. I can see myself losing complete interest after another 10 hours of playing. CoD4 made me understand why Valve decided to put in the long respawn delay and to ditch grenades in Team Fortress 2.Einhanderkiller

Long spawn timeswould make me lose interest

good graphics, 60 fps, kill fest, sounds like the best console shooter available

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#50 OremLK
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[QUOTE="Einhanderkiller"]I personally don't really see what's so amazing about Call of Duty 4's multiplayer. I've played it for a couple of hours, and, while fun, it's basically a run-n-gun kill fest full of grenade spamming. I can see myself losing complete interest after another 10 hours of playing. CoD4 made me understand why Valve decided to put in the long respawn delay and to ditch grenades in Team Fortress 2.Jibil

Long spawn timeswould make me lose interest

good graphics, 60 fps, kill fest, sounds like the best console shooter available

The spawn times are actually only around 10-15 seconds in TF2. It's no Counter-Strike.