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#1 Newnab
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Is it time for Final Fantasy to step aside for new JRPG's?

(Note: This DOESN'T include Western RPG's like Mass Effect. Totally different type of game)

If you don't care about the genre, there's no need for you to vote for anything. I don't care for the genre too much, but I am interested in some of the news ones coming.

So. Vote away.
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#2 firemarX
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While it'll be tough for any company to try and beat the FF series, Blue Dragon looks like it has a very, very good chance of being successsful. 
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#3 jbrittain
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Unfortunately none of the JRPG's you listed are available in America, so I can't comment on them. They might be better, but they might not. Who knows?
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#4 nickmag
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It's nigh impossible to topple a gaming giant as big as FF
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#5 pog_ma_thoin
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Blue Dragon looks awesome, but i dont think it will better FF.
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#6 nextgengaming18
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Why games by mistwalker? Honestly, you are just going to be disappointed. And that namco game, they have made 100's to rival ff, and none of them did. Why would eternal sonata change? I doubt one of those games will hit total of 300,000 sales.
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#7 HarlockJC
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While it'll be tough for any company to try and beat the FF series, Blue Dragon looks like it has a very, very good chance of being successsful. firemarX
The only problem is that it did well in Japan but not FF well.
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#8 Dencore
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WTF Dragon Quest has been killing Final Fantasy for years. And in Japan DQ always outsells FF. Play DQ VIII it blows FFXII away. Oh wait but most non hardcore RPG gamers don't know that, so....
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#9 topcatyo
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No game has as many fanboys as FF, so I'd say no.
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#10 ShaneBeck
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WTF Dragon Quest has been killing Final Fantasy for years. And in Japan DQ always outsells FF. Play DQ VIII it blows FFXII away. Oh wait but most non hardcore RPG gamers don't know that, so....Dencore


I agree:D

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#11 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]WTF Dragon Quest has been killing Final Fantasy for years. And in Japan DQ always outsells FF. Play DQ VIII it blows FFXII away. Oh wait but most non hardcore RPG gamers don't know that, so....ShaneBeck


I agree:D

Seriously DQ VIII = RPG perfection.
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#12 foxhound_fox
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After I started playing WRPG's I lost all taste for the repetitive and bland nature that is the JRPG. I like the feeling of freedom of choice you get from WRPG's... not to mention the fact a lot of them are based off of D&D structure.

I am much more looking forward to the sequels to KotORII:TSL and TESIV: Oblivion. Mass Effect is in my "top-5 wanted games for 2007."

I just do not understand how JRPG's are so popular nowadays... hardly anything really has changed since the days of FFVII...
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#13 NuclearFreedom
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[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"][QUOTE="Dencore"]WTF Dragon Quest has been killing Final Fantasy for years. And in Japan DQ always outsells FF. Play DQ VIII it blows FFXII away. Oh wait but most non hardcore RPG gamers don't know that, so....Dencore


I agree:D

Seriously DQ VIII = RPG perfection.

thats your opininon but i think Chrono Trigger=RPG Perfection
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#14 Dahaka-UK
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Is it time for Final Fantasy to step aside for new JRPG's?

(Note: This DOESN'T include Western RPG's like Mass Effect. Totally different type of game)

If you don't care about the genre, there's no need for you to vote for anything. I don't care for the genre too much, but I am interested in some of the news ones coming.

So. Vote away.
Newnab


Well seeing as each and every final fantasy is a different game every time... theres no need for it to step aside.
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#15 shaggymcp
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As much as I would like to see it beaten ( tired of sexualy questionable main characters, and pre teen's that I could care less if they lived or died :roll: )  I voted "i don't think it will be beaten",  cause this game has a fanbase that is HUGE, and I will never understand why so........
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#16 Carmilla31
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Blue Dragon is more akin to Dragon Quest and isnt even up to Dragon Quest standards. Eternal Sonata is from the makers of Baiten Kaitos and the past Tales games. Its a 7.0 - 8.0 game at best. Lost Odysessy = who knows yet? But i highly doubt this game with a effimate male lead who wears a midriff is gonna overtake Final Fantasy.
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#17 WilliamRLBaker
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Final fantasy in the state its in now stopped being worthwhile to beat in terms of quality when they released FF7. Since then its just been crappier quality games every few years. Then Again I prefered alot of other RPGs after 6 was released any ways. Dont know why.
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#18 Carmilla31
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I just do not understand how JRPG's are so popular nowadays... hardly anything really has changed since the days of FFVII...
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The Colt 45 is widely held as one of the greatest handguns today. It was made in 1911 and hardly anything has changed since. If its not broken dont fix it.
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#19 nextgengaming18
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Final fantasy in the state its in now stopped being worthwhile to beat in terms of quality when they released FF7. Since then its just been crappier quality games every few years. Then Again I prefered alot of other RPGs after 6 was released any ways. Dont know why.

FF10 and 12 were better then 7.
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#20 HeHateMe_basic
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While it'll be tough for any company to try and beat the FF series, Blue Dragon looks like it has a very, very good chance of being successsful. firemarX


Blue Dragon has already been out for a while,  it made small buzz. the japanese didnt have much to say about it and they are the biggest JRPG fans.
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#21 -uHuRu
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fanboys get hyped up and excited easily.
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#22 Carmilla31
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[QUOTE="firemarX"]While it'll be tough for any company to try and beat the FF series, Blue Dragon looks like it has a very, very good chance of being successsful. HeHateMe_basic


Blue Dragon has already been out for a while,  it made small buzz. the japanese didnt have much to say about it and they are the biggest JRPG fans.

Exactly. Blue Dragon sold 100k in Japan. Dragon Quest 8 sold 4 million in Japan. And the US isnt the best market for old school anime style rpgs.
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#23 tidus222
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the xenosaga trilogy is better than any of those RPG's

a shame people dont appreciate a good story anymore.

as far as FF games FF7, and FFX are the best games in the series and are also better than all those 360 rpg's.

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#24 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Final fantasy in the state its in now stopped being worthwhile to beat in terms of quality when they released FF7. Since then its just been crappier quality games every few years. Then Again I prefered alot of other RPGs after 6 was released any ways. Dont know why.

FF10 and 12 were better then 7.



yeah but only by a small amount, i still didn't like 10 or 12...but thats just me.
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#25 homegirl2180
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It's lasted twelve installments and a large number of spin-offs over the years. It won't die and it won't be beaten.
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#26 XxR0gu3Go0sexX
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If any of those do beat it I think it will be Blue Dragon, but Once Final Fantasy 13 comes out nothing will beat Square
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#27 darklord888
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Beaten? Chrono Trigger beat it like 10 years ago and FF still hasn't been able to pass it.
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#28 GabeBlack
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It's lasted twelve installments and a large number of spin-offs over the years. It won't die and it won't be beaten.homegirl2180


Yea and dont forget about the remakes like FF III on the DS. I never played it when it was on the NES but For an RPG on a Handled it wasnt thats bad.
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#29 Skippyj9
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I like how all the games on that poll are Xbox 360 games =/

You couldn't have put even White Knight Story???
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#30 coolguy1111
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Isnt blue Dragon already out? in Japan. I thought it wasnt that good.
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Chrono Trigger and FF7 remain the best rpgs of all time and can't be beaten by the looks of things, rpgs seem to have gone stale since the beginning of PS2.. I liked FF12 but not for its storyline, just its gameplay but even that wore off after a few hours of playing it, felt like a MMORPG grind fest after not long. FFX was ok but it left me wanting more it was too short and felt different from the previous FF's.  I might check this xenosaga series out but seeing as I live in the UK probably wont sell it here and really it looks like just another half a$$ed sci-fi rpg to me and the low scores on gamespot don't do it any justice but then again gamespot like to underrate and overrate games..
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#32 Adrian_Cloud
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Dragon Quest has better sales than FF?
I see WHS as the only main competition for FF as a series.


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#33 coolguy1111
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Chrono Trigger and FF7 remain the best rpgs of all time and can't be beaten by the looks of things, rpgs seem to have gone stale since the beginning of PS2.. I liked FF12 but not for its storyline, just its gameplay but even that wore off after a few hours of playing it, felt like a MMORPG grind fest after not long. FFX was ok but it left me wanting more it was too short and felt different from the previous FF's. I might check this xenosaga series out but seeing as I live in the UK probably wont sell it here and really it looks like just another half a$$ed sci-fi rpg to me and the low scores on gamespot don't do it any justice but then again gamespot like to underrate and overrate games..
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I liked FFX more then FF7, but yea, they kinda screwed us over so they could do a sequal.
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#34 Skippyj9
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Dragon Quest has better sales than FF?
I see WHS as the only main competition for FF as a series.


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I hope it comes out in America.
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#35 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]Dragon Quest has better sales than FF?
I see WHS as the only main competition for FF as a series.


Skippyj9
I hope it comes out in America.

I thin all L-5 games have came to america, from Dark Cloud to Rogue Galaxy. I don't see why this one wouldn't, there games are usually universally succesful.
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#36 Loonie
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WRPGs have beaten FF already.
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#37 arm9218
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why dont we wait for the games to come out and then judge them. that will save us time of argueing about them now
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#38 asmallchild
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None of those JRPGs with dethrone FF. Mass Effect has a small shot.
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#39 Sgt_Hale
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While it'll be tough for any company to try and beat the FF series, Blue Dragon looks like it has a very, very good chance of being successsful. firemarX
The Japanese reviews weren't blown away by it. Didn't suck. Just wasn't great. Although I'm interested in both ME and LO, none of the new titles strike me as coming close to FFXIII or FFXIII VS.
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#40 AfterShafter
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I think I'll reserve judgement for the release of these games before I decide anything has been beaten... But, in my opinion, Final Fantasy was knocked off it's decisive #1 spot long ago, and it has been in contention for a long time.
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#41 Sgt_Hale
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Isnt blue Dragon already out? in Japan. I thought it wasnt that good.coolguy1111
Blue Dragon wasn't that good. And yea, Xenosaga is a good series if you haven't tried it before. 1 & 3 were the best... didn't like 2 as much but the story is interesting throughout.
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#42 Dahaka-UK
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why dont we wait for the games to come out and then judge them. that will save us time of argueing about them now arm9218


no such thing as logic on the system wars boards sorry..
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#43 Deiuos
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You are completely underestimating the sheer mass of fans behind those Final Fantasy games. 

I never hear enough from them.  Maybe it'll die down since not everyone is going to be able to afford a PS3 anytime soon, so actually, who knows.
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#44 redneckdouglas
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Final Fantasy is far far far away from the competitors. Everything screams high quality.
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#45 iwishiwasrich
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why do they have to be 360 game that beats ff. ff is competeing with dragon quest and kingdom heart in which are ps3 games. 1.ff will always be top 2.kingdom heart will be huge for ps3 every where. 3.dragon quest only because this game is not hyped up a lot but still a great game 3.bluedragon this will tie with dragonquest because not many xbox 360 people will buy this game because they love shooter but also 360 fanboys kill hype it up so much because this is the first real rpg they got. 5.lost oddesey- hyped because made my microsoft. 5.eternal sonata looks good but does not have fan base.
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#46 WilliamRLBaker
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Im confused how are Western RPGs totally different from Jrpgs? really? Mass affect alone cant be said about that because its the basic formula now *specially with active battles instead of turn based battles* WRPGs can certainly vie for JRPG popularity so you cant just say they are vastly different because some of them are and some of them aren't...
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#47 AfterShafter
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You are completely underestimating the sheer mass of fans behind those Final Fantasy games.  Deiuos
Aye. FFX2 and FFXI pretty clearly showed that the FF community will buy even mediocre titles released by Square, making it quite hard to knock them down.
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#48 Sgt_Hale
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I like how all the games on that poll are Xbox 360 games =/

You couldn't have put even White Knight Story???
Skippyj9

Lol, of course not b/c what we've seen of that game already owns every RPG we've seen announced for the 360 with the exception of Mass Effect... That's really the only one on the 360 I have high hopes for... but the fact that it's modeled after a shooter and Bioware disappointed with Jade Empire, still has me skeptical. It does look like it will be much more epic than their previous games though.

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#49 Saturos3091
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Lost Odyssey has the highest chance, Blue Dragon looks okay too.  Eternal Sonata doesn't interest me, but my favorite game will always be FFVIII.

Lost Odyssey looks great!
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#50 AfterShafter
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Lost Odyssey has the highest chance, Blue Dragon looks okay too.  Eternal Sonata doesn't interest me, but my favorite game will always be FFVIII.

Lost Odyssey looks great!
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Nothing shows a true open minded, unbiased person like them informing everyone what their favorite game will always be...

Seriously though, FFVIII? That's the undisputed lowest point in the series for me. VII and IX were both way, way better for the PS.