Has Nintendo stopped being a "safe" game developer?

I picked up Mario Galaxy last Christmas and played it for maybe an hour, the camera made gameplay difficult because every level was a sphere and the camera didn't adapt to this, it was the first game to ever make me motion sick in 22 years of gaming. Also 20 minute unskippable cut scene intro.

Skip to this year and I got a 3DS XL. Mario 3D land is just a Mario 64 knock off where they removed punching to give the Tanooki suit a purpose now they removed its ability to fly (so why isn't it just the cape from world if its just for gliding?). Also cut scenes you can't skip before the game and between each world..

New Mario is ridiclously hand holdy. There are easy paths where they give you god mode and remove any chance of dying. Its possible to get 100+ coins in the intro area to underground levels and basically by the end of the the first world you have 20+ lives stocked up as they didn't balance the extra coins they give you against the lives mechanic. Also every time you do absolutely anything you get a goddamn clapping sound effect, like you have to be applauded for everything or you will feel bad for collecting 8 red coins.

The 3 latest Mario games I played have all been garbage. Is Nintendo really losing that safe bet game? You used to always be able to pick up a 1st party nintendo game and know it would be decent, yet right now I think any new Mario games are going to be utter garbage and almost insulting in their over reward mentality.

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No worries, your taste is just awful

Mario U was pretty lame.

Mario 3D land felt like it was held back, but fun.

Mario Galaxy is among the top 3 greatest games ever created.

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] You liked Mario 3D Land? :Dcharizard1605

under your recommendation, i downloaded pushmo (pullblox) and ive been enjoying that a bit.

3-star'd all the 50cc in mk7 and thats about it lol.

Briefly touched RE:R, but being the P&SSY that i am..i stopped playing it after 8 minutes (will get back to it after i finish some other games though lol)

Kid icarus, havnt played yet and same with OoT.

Just havnt had much time this past week to play much. But ye, really loving the games.

Basically all ive been playing are games which dont have a story to playthrough (just pick up n play). But that will change soon.

I picked up Mario Galaxy last Christmas and played it for maybe an hour, the camera made gameplay difficult because every level was a sphere and the camera didn't adapt to this, it was the first game to ever make me motion sick in 22 years of gaming. Also 20 minute unskippable cut scene intro.

Skip to this year and I got a 3DS XL. Mario 3D land is just a Mario 64 knock off where they removed punching to give the Tanooki suit a purpose now they removed its ability to fly (so why isn't it just the cape from world if its just for gliding?). Also cut scenes you can't skip before the game and between each world..

New Mario is ridiclously hand holdy. There are easy paths where they give you god mode and remove any chance of dying. Its possible to get 100+ coins in* the intro area to underground levels and basically by the end of the the first world you have 20+ lives stocked up as they didn't balance the extra coins they give you against the lives mechanic. Also every time you do absolutely anything you get a goddamn clapping sound effect, like you have to be applauded for everything or you will feel bad for collecting 8 red coins.

The 3 latest Mario games I played have all been garbage. Is Nintendo really losing that safe bet game? You used to always be able to pick up a 1st party nintendo game and know it would be decent, yet right now I think any new Mario games are going to be utter garbage and almost insulting in their over reward mentality.

TankBusterJenn

ridiclously hand holdy.

TankBusterJenn

You have to be new to gaming

Nintendo is a company that caters specifically to children and casuals

They hit their demographic perfectly

Nintendo only cares about money.clyde46

I completely disagree with you on the 3d Mario Galaxy games, but wholeheartedly agree with you on the 2d iterations. The latter severly lack a soul and the innovations that made the 2d Mario platformers iconic. You didn't even touch upon the awful "bah bah" music of the New Super Mario Bros series. I honestly think that the "New" title, is mandated otherwise people would think it's the exact same game...which it is.

I completely disagree with you on the 3d Mario Galaxy games, but wholeheartedly agree with you on the 2d iterations. The latter severly lack a soul and the innovations that made the 2d Mario platformers iconic. You didn't even touch upon the awful "bah bah" music of the New Super Mario Bros series. I honestly think that the "New" title, is mandated otherwise people would think it's the exact same game...which it is.

Chargeagles1

although 3 starring 50cc in MK7 is so easy, man up and do it in 100 and 150cc :Pcharizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]although 3 starring 50cc in MK7 is so easy, man up and do it in 100 and 150cc :Pcampzor

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Nintendo only cares about money.HarlockJC

People like Mario games and thus they will continue to make Mario games.

Duh.

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]although 3 starring 50cc in MK7 is so easy, man up and do it in 100 and 150cc :Pcharizard1605

You didn't like Mario Galaxy :o

Nintendo does play it pretty afely with softwarem relying alot on Mario, Zelda, Pokemon for profits. Can't exactly blame them though since they get f*cktons of $$$ from those IPs, and the games from these series are almost always good to an extent.

And atleast they'll sprinkle in an occasional different IP, such as Kid Icarus, DKC, Punch-out, etc.

[QUOTE="Chargeagles1"]

I completely disagree with you on the 3d Mario Galaxy games, but wholeheartedly agree with you on the 2d iterations. The latter severly lack a soul and the innovations that made the 2d Mario platformers iconic. You didn't even touch upon the awful "bah bah" music of the New Super Mario Bros series. I honestly think that the "New" title, is mandated otherwise people would think it's the exact same game...which it is.

Samus3D

After 3 games it would be nice of them to dance to some other tunes though...

1. TC is an idiot
2. TC is a casual
3. TC is an idiot

1. TC is an idiot
2. TC is a casual
3. TC is an idiot

ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="clyde46"]Nintendo only cares about money.lightleggy

[QUOTE="Samus3D"][QUOTE="Chargeagles1"]

I completely disagree with you on the 3d Mario Galaxy games, but wholeheartedly agree with you on the 2d iterations. The latter severly lack a soul and the innovations that made the 2d Mario platformers iconic. You didn't even touch upon the awful "bah bah" music of the New Super Mario Bros series. I honestly think that the "New" title, is mandated otherwise people would think it's the exact same game...which it is.

goblaa

After 3 games it would be nice of them to dance to some other tunes though...

And it would be nice if Nintendo could think up other world themes other than grass, desert, ice, water, poison jungle, mountain, and sky.

I actually have no problem with the NSMB games sharing very similar gameplay; I don't view it much differently from how the Sonic genesis trilogy shared pretty similar gameplay or how the DKC SNES trilogy shared pretty similar gameplay. but atleast genesis sonic and the DKC series actually add in different settings and new soundtracks to spice things up and differentiate the titles in some way.

Hell, even Galaxy 2 had a decent amount of new music, as well as Super Mario 3D Land...

I picked up Mario Galaxy last Christmas and played it for maybe an hour, the camera made gameplay difficult because every level was a sphere

TankBusterJenn

If you tell a lie this early into your post then how do you expect me to read the rest?

Trolling is something you ease into man. You cant be so heavy handed and direct up front. Build up some believably, try to ground your complaints in reality as to generate some serious discussion and then once you have them hooked you go for the kill with all the nonsense and BS. You go full dumb ass from the jump and you lose out on the real bites.

Remember. Start out like you're only slightly an idiot. Dont blow your load all out once, but instead try to crescendo into a waste of society. And never get mad.

Follow these simple rules and you can troll anyone.

Good luck.

[QUOTE="TankBusterJenn"]

I picked up Mario Galaxy last Christmas and played it for maybe an hour, the camera made gameplay difficult because every level was a sphere

ConanTheStoner

If you tell a lie this early into your post then how do you expect me to read the rest?

Trolling is something you ease into man. You cant be so heavy handed and direct up front. Build up some believably, try to ground your complaints in reality as to generate some serious discussion and then once you have them hooked you go for the kill with all the nonsense and BS. You go full dumb ass from the jump and you lose out on the real bites.

Remember. Start out like you're only slightly an idiot. Dont blow your load all out once, but instead try to crescendo into a waste of society. And never get mad.

Follow these simple rules and you can troll anyone.

Good luck.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

1. TC is an idiot
2. TC is a casual
3. TC is an idiot

TankBusterJenn

[QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

[QUOTE="TankBusterJenn"]

I picked up Mario Galaxy last Christmas and played it for maybe an hour, the camera made gameplay difficult because every level was a sphere

Lightning_fan

If you tell a lie this early into your post then how do you expect me to read the rest?

Trolling is something you ease into man. You cant be so heavy handed and direct up front. Build up some believably, try to ground your complaints in reality as to generate some serious discussion and then once you have them hooked you go for the kill with all the nonsense and BS. You go full dumb ass from the jump and you lose out on the real bites.

Remember. Start out like you're only slightly an idiot. Dont blow your load all out once, but instead try to crescendo into a waste of society. And never get mad.

Follow these simple rules and you can troll anyone.

Good luck.

You say tomato. I say bullsh*t.

Not my first rodeo son.

Nintendo only cares about money.clyde46

Well personnally, I loved every bit of SMG, though halfway through SMG2 I started getting slightly bored of the recipe.

Right now, I'm having a blast finishing NSMBU, unlocking secret levels and getting all the star coins. Can't see anything wrong with that game, but to each his own I suppose.

I picked up Mario Galaxy last Christmas and played it for maybe an hour, the camera made gameplay difficult because every level was a sphere and the camera didn't adapt to this, it was the first game to ever make me motion sick in 22 years of gaming. Also 20 minute unskippable cut scene intro.

Skip to this year and I got a 3DS XL. Mario 3D land is just a Mario 64 knock off where they removed punching to give the Tanooki suit a purpose now they removed its ability to fly (so why isn't it just the cape from world if its just for gliding?). Also cut scenes you can't skip before the game and between each world..

New Mario is ridiclously hand holdy. There are easy paths where they give you god mode and remove any chance of dying. Its possible to get 100+ coins in the intro area to underground levels and basically by the end of the the first world you have 20+ lives stocked up as they didn't balance the extra coins they give you against the lives mechanic. Also every time you do absolutely anything you get a goddamn clapping sound effect, like you have to be applauded for everything or you will feel bad for collecting 8 red coins.

The 3 latest Mario games I played have all been garbage. Is Nintendo really losing that safe bet game? You used to always be able to pick up a 1st party nintendo game and know it would be decent, yet right now I think any new Mario games are going to be utter garbage and almost insulting in their over reward mentality.

TankBusterJenn

[QUOTE="TankBusterJenn"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

1. TC is an idiot
2. TC is a casual
3. TC is an idiot

Lightning_fan

No, TC is an idiot who never writes their own threads and copy/pastes them from other websites. Look how easy it was to find the original.

I repeat yet again, TC is an idiot.

Obvious copy paste job.

But seriously, to call SM3DL a SM64 knockoff is just lolworthy. Different mechanics, different structure, different take on level design, different goals, different focus. The only real similarity is the IP.

[QUOTE="tarzanell"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] You liked Mario 3D Land? :Dwhiskeystrike

Agreed 100%

the only recent mario game I'd say they were lazy with was NSMB2. All the rest of them were legit

[QUOTE="Lightning_fan"][QUOTE="TankBusterJenn"] TC?ChubbyGuy40

No, TC is an idiot who never writes their own threads and copy/pastes them from other websites. Look how easy it was to find the original.

I repeat yet again, TC is an idiot.

Has Nintendo stopped being a "relevant" game developer? TankBusterJenn