has "halo-killer" made halo un-killable?

so many games have tried and failed, pushed on by ps3 owners or fans of other titles on the 360 and they never succeed. it seems like so much effort has gone into killing it that it's reputation is too strong now. almost as though trying to be a halo killer is more likely to hurt a game than to help it.

is halo unkillable now because of all the failed hype for other games?

is it the fidel castro of video games? eventually you just have to leave it alone and let it die of natural causes? (especially since so many claim it's flawed?)

The industry has already moved on to Call of Duty style controls, Halo is slowly slipping into the past.supercubedude64

I would say yes to the topic question. Halo has become unkillable.

Cod is slowly replacing halo has the standard for consoles.

it's popular to hate it, i agree. but every game still gets thrown against it. and none of them get remembered as a halo-killer. most of them get remembered for not being a halo-killer. and this in turns hurts their reputation. even trying to kill halo is bad for a games lifespan. seems better to just sneak past the giant then to try and fight it.

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"]The industry has already moved on to Call of Duty style controls, Halo is slowly slipping into the past.linkin_guy109

:lol: Call of Duty is far from innovative, Call of Duty's mechanics are just as old, if not older than some of Halo's mechanics. :lol: :|

it's popular to hate it, i agree. but every game still gets thrown against it. and none of them get remembered as a halo-killer. most of them get remembered for not being a halo-killer. and this in turns hurts their reputation. even trying to kill halo is bad for a games lifespan. seems better to just sneak past the giant then to try and fight it.

fadersdream

Why does a game have to 'kill' another game to be respected now? Look at World of Warcraft, it does nothing that other games weren't doing for years, however rather than focusing on trying to do something new and intuitive to 'kill' it's competition, it focuses on doing the norm very, very well. If FPS games stopped trying to 'kill' other games with new initiatives and control schemes and focused on making a unique, well-tuned game, I think the industry could breath a sigh of releif.

On another note, it's a very barbaric nature we have when we view games, that the current king has to be 'killed' by his usurper before someone else can take the throne... No sharing the top spot in our eyes ;)

it's popular to hate it, i agree. but every game still gets thrown against it. and none of them get remembered as a halo-killer. most of them get remembered for not being a halo-killer. and this in turns hurts their reputation. even trying to kill halo is bad for a games lifespan. seems better to just sneak past the giant then to try and fight it.

fadersdream

crysis says hello, killzone 2 says hello for backup. of course the problem here is that only the non fanboys who've played both halo and kz2 and/or crysis would know this. halo's been stomped repeatedly and the 360 fanboys stand there looking at their knocked down half dead mascot saying "b..b....but you didn't hurt him" disillusioned as always.

The all "x-thing-killer" is nonsense.

Halo is still the most popular FPS out there. And? That has not stopped Resistance 2, Killzone 2, WaW, CoD4 from being excellent FPS.

And not only about gaming.

I see things some gadget being called "iPhone killers", when they will never EVER be as popular as it. And? That does not stop them from being very cool gadgets, and gadgets that some people will like more than the iPhone anyways.

Why does a game have to 'kill' another game to be respected now? Look at World of Warcraft, it does nothing that other games weren't doing for years, however rather than focusing on trying to do something new and intuitive to 'kill' it's competition, it focuses on doing the norm very, very well. If FPS games stopped trying to 'kill' other games with new initiatives and control schemes and focused on making a unique, well-tuned game, I think the industry could breath a sigh of releif.

On another note, it's a very barbaric nature we have when we view games, that the current king has to be 'killed' by his usurper before someone else can take the throne... No sharing the top spot in our eyes ;)

wraithbladeuk

[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="supercubedude64"]The industry has already moved on to Call of Duty style controls, Halo is slowly slipping into the past.DarkGamer007

:lol: Call of Duty is far from innovative, Call of Duty's mechanics are just as old, if not older than some of Halo's mechanics. :lol: :|

i defy you to find me another game where you stumble down a crumbling street after a nuke was dropped to take a first person control of a soldiers last breath, can you find me a game that does that? thats the innovation, innovation does not always refer to mechanics, it does not always refer to a new story, it refer's to doing something which has never been done before in a gamelinkin_guy109

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"] id agree with this, halo's style of gaming is very old fashioned now a days, no one wants another basic shooter, they want something with some sort of innovationlinkin_guy109

:lol: Call of Duty is far from innovative, Call of Duty's mechanics are just as old, if not older than some of Halo's mechanics. :lol: :|

well in fear you controlled the character while a nuclear explosion was coming towards you, i'd say it had the cinematic feel cod had too(with much better ai). cod4 was great though and while not innovative the online was the most addictive online (on consoles) since halo, and that's quite an achievement.

[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"] i defy you to find me another game where you stumble down a crumbling street after a nuke was dropped to take a first person control of a soldiers last breath, can you find me a game that does that? thats the innovation, innovation does not always refer to mechanics, it does not always refer to a new story, it refer's to doing something which has never been done before in a gameHewkii

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

it's popular to hate it, i agree. but every game still gets thrown against it. and none of them get remembered as a halo-killer. most of them get remembered for not being a halo-killer. and this in turns hurts their reputation. even trying to kill halo is bad for a games lifespan. seems better to just sneak past the giant then to try and fight it.

z4twenny

crysis says hello, killzone 2 says hello for backup. of course the problem here is that only the non fanboys who've played both halo and kz2 and/or crysis would know this. halo's been stomped repeatedly and the 360 fanboys stand there looking at their knocked down half dead mascot saying "b..b....but you didn't hurt him" disillusioned as always.

i got KZ2

Halo 3 still offers way more then any other console shooter and its 2 years old lol

Of course. It's out of jealousy, most likely. Some people don't like Halo, and I'm cool with that, but the hate for Halo usually doesn't come from actually trying and disliking the game but actually out of fanboyish motives. ThePS3 has some good quality shooters, but you're right, none have reached the success of Halo 3 in terms of sales, reviews, or just plain ol' popularity. Across the board, Halo has claimed its victory.

Saying Halo can't be "killed" (whatever that means) is like saying WiiFit can't be killed. :lol:

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

it's popular to hate it, i agree. but every game still gets thrown against it. and none of them get remembered as a halo-killer. most of them get remembered for not being a halo-killer. and this in turns hurts their reputation. even trying to kill halo is bad for a games lifespan. seems better to just sneak past the giant then to try and fight it.

crysis says hello, killzone 2 says hello for backup. of course the problem here is that only the non fanboys who've played both halo and kz2 and/or crysis would know this. halo's been stomped repeatedly and the 360 fanboys stand there looking at their knocked down half dead mascot saying "b..b....but you didn't hurt him" disillusioned as always.

i got KZ2

Halo 3 still offers way more then any other console shooter and its 2 years old lol

[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

crysis says hello, killzone 2 says hello for backup. of course the problem here is that only the non fanboys who've played both halo and kz2 and/or crysis would know this. halo's been stomped repeatedly and the 360 fanboys stand there looking at their knocked down half dead mascot saying "b..b....but you didn't hurt him" disillusioned as always.

enterawesome

i got KZ2

Halo 3 still offers way more then any other console shooter and its 2 years old lol

obvious fanboys response makes them obvious fanboys

please explain why for reasons other than "because i think so"

edit: i'd like to note that i'm not calling halo a bad game, i just happen to think its the most overrated fps ever mainly because all bungie really did was make a so-so fps that controlled halfway decently. more than anything i think it got popular because of everything BUT the game itself.

Halo just has a great following, backed up by fantastic multiplayer. I think games have come out that look better, or even play better, but Halo just has that quality that keeps players coming back.

obvious fanboys response makes them obvious fanboys

z4twenny

no one really cares about Halo anymore. Hewkii

[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

i got KZ2

Halo 3 still offers way more then any other console shooter and its 2 years old lol

z4twenny

obvious fanboys response makes them obvious fanboys

please explain why for reasons other than "because i think so"

edit: i'd like to note that i'm not calling halo a bad game, i just happen to think its the most overrated fps ever mainly because all bungie really did was make a so-so fps that controlled halfway decently. more than anything i think it got popular because of everything BUT the game itself.

halo 3 has co-op, online split screen, a map creator, very deep rank systeam,bungie updates the playlists every week

what does KZ2 have? a single player and a multiplayerthat you can get all the medals in really fast,thats it and you cant even play split screen

and what other game offers crazy game types like zombies and rocket races? sure some PC games prolly but nothing on consoles

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

obvious fanboys response makes them obvious fanboys

Hewkii

i'm definitely not your son, my dads dead. subsequently theres a good chance that i'm older than you. put your pistol back in your pants and please stop trying to act grown up.

i'm definitely not your son, my dads dead. subsequently theres a good chance that i'm older than you. put your pistol back in your pants and please stop trying to act grown up.

z4twenny

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]

i'm definitely not your son, my dads dead. subsequently theres a good chance that i'm older than you. put your pistol back in your pants and please stop trying to act grown up.

Hewkii

:lol:

the only severe case in here is you trying to act like an adult

btw, all that stuff that halo is so praised for has been done for quite a while already. level creator? doom and quake say hello. split screen mp, didn't perfect dark have 4 player split screen? didnt goldeneye as well? very deep ranking system? well every FPS claims this.

btw, all that stuff that halo is so praised for has been done for quite a while already. level creator? doom and quake say hello. split screen mp, didn't perfect dark have 4 player split screen? didnt goldeneye as well? very deep ranking system? well every FPS claims this.

z4twenny

didnt say it hasn't been done before

but what game this gen has the total package besides halo 3 btw ionly saidit was best on consoles and you say KZ2 is better thats your opinioni just wanted to prove to you halo 3 has alot more to offer

[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="supercubedude64"]The industry has already moved on to Call of Duty style controls, Halo is slowly slipping into the past.DarkGamer007

:lol: Call of Duty is far from innovative, Call of Duty's mechanics are just as old, if not older than some of Halo's mechanics. :lol: :|

my bad lol

calling me a 14 year old however, not exactly an exercise in maturity. and calling someone else a 14 year old doesn't help with you trying to act all big and tough by calling me son.

i think we both know that the average 14 year old probably wouldn't know much about the original doom, quake, perfect dark or goldeneye.

i think we both know that the average 14 year old probably wouldn't know much about the original doom, quake, perfect dark or goldeneye.

z4twenny