Has this been the best generation for fighting games?

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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Would it be accurate to say this generation, especially nears it's end has been the golden something, something for the genre or is this just billy bullshit nonsense from an ignorant pleb?

Dragonball The Fighters Z

Tekken 7

Street Fighter V

Guilty Gear XyZs revised editions

KOF14

Samurai Spirits

Mortal Kombat 11

Killer Instinct

Other shit.

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#2  Edited By jeezers
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The technology is there, the mechanics are there, the graphics are there, but too much DLC, fighting games got reked by season passes and DLC characters this gen. I shouldn't have to pay 100 bucks to get a full roster, that's bullshit.

look at SFV god bless those that bought the base version of that shit at launch.

Even fighter z which was great, a game i was super hype for and played in Beta, wrecked by a DLC. sick of buying 1-2 characters for like 5-20 bucks, they are greasing people out here

DOA6 was dead on arrival, some how dead or alive managed to make one of the most expensive fighting games ever made, where you dont start off with a roster you buy your roster pick and choose, i think Killer instinct was like that too, what an idiotic move.

Injustice and MK were pretty good i guess, they paced out their characters better.... kinda lol

Tekken 7 same BS, Namco get your shit together, i actually love this game, just sick of the character passes

The only game that gets a slight pass is smash, atleast they gave us 60+ characters at launch and 90+ stages at launch. aint that some shit

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@uninspiredcup said:

Would it be accurate to say this generation, especially nears it's end has been the golden something, something for the genre or is this just billy bullshit nonsense from an ignorant pleb?

Dragonball The Fighters Z

Tekken 7

Street Fighter V

Guilty Gear XyZs revised editions

KOF14

Samurai Spirits

Mortal Kombat 11

Killer Instinct

Other shit.

* Possibly best ever gen for season 1 fighting games.

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#4  Edited By Litchie  Online
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Maybe. But not personally.

Dragon Ball FighterZ was pretty cool, but a bit too simple and button mashy for my taste.
Street Fighter V is meh.
Tekken 7 is meh.
Guilty Gear? No idea, no interest.
KoF 14 looks pretty meh.
Samurai Shodown looks cool. Haven't tried it. Want it.
MK11 looks meh.
Killer Instinct is in fact great, but ruined by the addition of dumbass autocombo crap.

Soul Calibur 2 and Smash Bros. Melee > all of the above combined.

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Smash Bros has been wrecking it. Even their DLC practices are not bad. You get licensed characters.

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#6 DaVillain  Moderator
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To me yes! Mortal Kombat 11, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, & Killer Instinct has been really great for Fighting games this gen has to offer.

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#7 Jag85  Online
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Gen 8 is an improvement over Gen 7. But it still doesn't quite compare to earlier generations. The golden age will always be the '90s.

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I would say so. Arc System Works has been killing it in particular with:

- Blazblue

- Guilty Gear

- Dragon Ball FighterZ

- Granblue Fantasy

Then you have other excellent games like:

- Tekken 7

- Street Fighter V

- King of Fighters XIV

- Mortal Kombat 11

- Soul Calibur VI

- Samurai Shodown

- Injustice 2

- Killer Instinct

- Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Really the only sour note was Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite. The gameplay was great but it was a shame how lacklustre the rest of the package was. Also no new Darkstalkers makes me sad.

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#9  Edited By NoodleFighter
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Naah too much DLC like Jeezers said plus Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite was a massive disappointment for the series.

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91-95 for me was the best.

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#11 Jag85  Online
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What made the '90s the golden age of fighting games was the arcade scene. The arcade experience is something you just can't get with fighting games today.

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#12  Edited By mojito1988
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Street Fighter and Killer Instinct say yes. I love Jago. He is my husbando!

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#13 mtron32
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MK11 is the best in that series and probably the best looking fighter to date. It was solid mechanically and great to watch. SF4 was like crack from day one, SFV........lets just say I'm glad I didn't get hooked on that one, saved me plenty of hours of lab time.

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@mtron32 said:

MK11 is the best in that series and probably the best looking fighter to date. It was solid mechanically and great to watch. SF4 was like crack from day one, SFV........lets just say I'm glad I didn't get hooked on that one, saved me plenty of hours of lab time.

Detail wise yes, aesthetically a lot of it is quite bland, especially the backgrounds.

Street Fighter V (especially that Castle level) is like looking at Ze Art, and by that I don't mean shit like Gone Home or Death Stranding, real art, you'd put on your wall.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@mtron32 said:

MK11 is the best in that series and probably the best looking fighter to date. It was solid mechanically and great to watch. SF4 was like crack from day one, SFV........lets just say I'm glad I didn't get hooked on that one, saved me plenty of hours of lab time.

Detail wise yes, aesthetically a lot of it is quite bland, especially the backgrounds.

Street Fighter V (especially that Castle level) is like looking at Ze Art, and by that I don't mean shit like Gone Home or Death Stranding, real art, you'd put on your wall.

It looked good but the game itself is insufferable.

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#16 Vaidream45
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The SNES/Genesis era gets my vote. Fighting games were at their peak on consoles and arcades. Also no DLC back then. No micro transactions.

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Bless people who bought the final edition of SFV

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#18  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@vaidream45 said:

The SNES/Genesis era gets my vote. Fighting games were at their peak on consoles and arcades. Also no DLC back then. No micro transactions.

Back then if you wanted more content or even the equivalent of a basic quality of life improvement patch you literally had to buy a new version of the game.

Likewise the arcade versions themselves used factually proven cheating ass AI, costing 50p - £1 a pop.

These complaints about DLC I never really get.

Preorder DLC? Sure, complete bullshit. Just a way to arbitrarily inflate the price at launch with day-1 DLC using fuckwod terms like "bonus" when "ransom" or "segmented" is more applicable, which game media never challenge, which they should, every-time.

Expansion packs with several characters? See no problem other than them being assholes and not telling you exactly what you're getting.

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#19  Edited By dimebag667
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@warmblur: same here

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#20 Vaidream45
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@uninspiredcup: there have been 3 versions of SF5 already. Not much has changed lol.

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#21 PC_Rocks
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@Jag85 said:

Gen 8 is an improvement over Gen 7. But it still doesn't quite compare to earlier generations. The golden age will always be the '90s.

I agree! There's something that's missing in today's fighting games that I can't put my finger on. May very well be nostalgia only.

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No its not. it was SNES/Genesis era. there was a time fighting was one of my fav genre. now i dont care about new MK and street fighters too.

@pc_rocks said:
@Jag85 said:

Gen 8 is an improvement over Gen 7. But it still doesn't quite compare to earlier generations. The golden age will always be the '90s.

I agree! There's something that's missing in today's fighting games that I can't put my finger on. May very well be nostalgia only.

true. there is still no fighting game that is better than street fighter 2 turbo.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@vaidream45 said:

The SNES/Genesis era gets my vote. Fighting games were at their peak on consoles and arcades. Also no DLC back then. No micro transactions.

Back then if you wanted more content or even the equivalent of a basic quality of life improvement patch you literally had to buy a new version of the game.

Likewise the arcade versions themselves used factually proven cheating ass AI, costing 50p - £1 a pop.

These complaints about DLC I never really get.

Preorder DLC? Sure, complete bullshit. Just a way to arbitrarily inflate the price at launch with day-1 DLC using fuckwod terms like "bonus" when "ransom" or "segmented" is more applicable, which game media never challenge, which they should, every-time.

Expansion packs with several characters? See no problem other than them being assholes and not telling you exactly what you're getting.

Arcade machines never work for me. they were just lazy money collecting concept for making kids fool to earn money.

i mean paying a money for a coin for only one round? and if you loose than buy a token again?? its a gambling. horrible concept. so glad it died.

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#24 Jag85  Online
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@ghosts4ever: The best SF games were Alpha 2-3 and 3rd Strike.

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#25 Jag85  Online
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@uninspiredcup: Capcom's business practices were definitely worse back in the '90s. They milked billions out of SF2. It's no wonder that it became one of the highest-grossing games of all time.

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If you bought the base Street Fighter V, you get the other “versions” as free updates.

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#27 VFighter
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@Litchie: Ok so its pretty easy to see that I never have to read anything you post about fighting games ever again, sweet.

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#28 jg4xchamp
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It could be better.

Too much simplification of shit that doesn’t need it, tho the post game support gives this era of fighting games a different level of energy.

The locals/majors/tournament side of games has improved a bunch.

And to the gens credit the best fighting game of the decade (Tekken 7) is pretty divine. Under Nite, Guiitly Gear and such were all strong too.

It’s a shame the next gen is already showing a Guilty Gear gutting all the stuff that makes those games fun.

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I think nothing compares to the 90s, when the games were much more entertaining.
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#30 UItravioIence
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Mortal Kombat is a shooter. Xenoverse is better than fighter Z. Smash is LOL. Tekken and Street Fighter are the only real fighting games.

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#31 iambatman7986
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If they released the full game on day 1, maybe, but since characters and costumes are locked behind dlc, I pretty much refuse to buy them.

I miss the days costumes and characters could be unlocked by beating the game, not spending more money, but this goes for all genres.

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If you mean the worst then yes. Fighting games are awful these days man. Get yourself together.

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@Jag85 said:

What made the '90s the golden age of fighting games was the arcade scene. The arcade experience is something you just can't get with fighting games today.

I was going to say balancing is a bit better now, but you are 100 percent right about the arcade scene. It was flat out incredible then.

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@vfighter said:

@Litchie: Ok so its pretty easy to see that I never have to read anything you post about fighting games ever again, sweet.

Consider me hurt beyond belief.

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#35  Edited By judaspete
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This gen has been great, but i still say 1998-2003 were the best years for fighting games. So I guess gen 5 and 6.

The Last Blade, Gauro MotW, SF Alpha 3 and Third Strike, Peak Soul Calibur, Tekken TT, Power Stone, Bushido Blade, DoAs, Guilty Gear, Marvel vs Capcom, Capcom vs SNK, and even some forgotten mid tier stuff like Bloody Roar, Psychic Force, and Tech Romancer.

There are a lot of great games out now, but none of them are really better than the ones I listed above. All of those could come out today with the same mechanics and improved visuals, and they would be just as much fun as anything else.

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#36 BenjaminBanklin
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When you list them all out there like that... yeah, it looks impressive. There's been a lot of fighting content out there to choose from this gen.