Have Devs finally learned their lesson about going after COD?

So apparently MW3 has shattered the records set by BlOps:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/88466/modern-warfare-3-smashes-week-one-sales-record/

This of course after the massive campaign by DICE and BF3 to be "Above and Beyond the Call". :lol:

We all know DICE, GG, Zipper, and others have been modifying their formula over the years to try to steal COD's thunder. Well, as this article shows, COD has done nothing but sell more and more copies with each annual release. COD is not going to be beaten by anyone but themselves or when the public eventually tires of the gameplay. There is absolutely nothing DICE or anyone else can do about it.

So that being said, will the chase for COD finally stop? Will these devs finally stop mimicing the COD formula and get back to making their own games with their own identity? How about a BF4 with a command structure back and more than 3 maps with heavy vehicle content? How about a Socom 5 that gets back to the single-mode maps of the Socom 1/2 days that made that series popular? How about a Killzone 4 that gets back to the balance, massive maps, and brutal gameplay of Killzone 2?

BF3 " Below and far from the Call"

:P had to do it, well hey its called the leader of the all FPSs for a reason :cool:

I hope so. I am so sick of every game trying to copy off of CoD. The CoD formula is incredibly stale now and overly played out. Battlefield 3 will win FPS of the year on GS anyway

u mean MW2.5stereointegrity

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

They will never stop trying, all CoD like crappy rehash military shooters like Homefront and Medal of Honor sold over 3 million

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

peterw007

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

finalstar2007

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

Firebird-5

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

Pokemon and change put together? really now? how have pokemon changed over the many years? its the same thing everytime every single year, you start with one pokemon, train them, catch them all over again, battle the gyms and thats it, over and over again every year and dont get me started on mario. Call of Duty changes in terms of online ( i dont care about story in CoD ), new perks, streaks, features every release exactly same with the games i listed. if people got tired of it you wouldnt see it breaking records every single year right? in terms of shooters, no shooter can even come close to the superior Call of Duty

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

finalstar2007

Pokemon and change put together? really now? how have pokemon changed over the many years? its the same thing everytime every single year, you start with one pokemon, train them, catch them all over again, battle the gyms and thats it, over and over again every year and dont get me started on mario. Call of Duty changes in terms of online ( i dont care about story in CoD ), new perks, streaks, features every release exactly same with the games i listed. if people got tired of it you wouldnt see it breaking records every single year right? in terms of shooters, no shooter can even come close to the superior Call of Duty

Battlefield 3's launch has eclipsed all previous Battlefields. If anything, sparking flame wars between their toolish fanbases only proved beneficial. vashkey

So apparently MW3 has shattered the records set by BlOps:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/88466/modern-warfare-3-smashes-week-one-sales-record/

This of course after the massive campaign by DICE and BF3 to be "Above and Beyond the Call". :lol:

We all know DICE, GG, Zipper, and others have been modifying their formula over the years to try to steal COD's thunder. Well, as this article shows, COD has done nothing but sell more and more copies with each annual release. COD is not going to be beaten by anyone but themselves or when the public eventually tires of the gameplay. There is absolutely nothing DICE or anyone else can do about it.

So that being said, will the chase for COD finally stop? Will these devs finally stop mimicing the COD formula and get back to making their own games with their own identity? How about a BF4 with a command structure back and more than 3 maps with heavy vehicle content? How about a Socom 5 that gets back to the single-mode maps of the Socom 1/2 days that made that series popular? How about a Killzone 4 that gets back to the balance, massive maps, and brutal gameplay of Killzone 2?

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

peterw007

Halo isn't far behind.

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

topgunmv

Halo isn't far behind.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

vashkey

Halo isn't far behind.

Halo has 8 games if you count spin off titles, otherwise its 7 fps. Call of Duty has 8.

Ya, polar opposites all right:roll:

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

finalstar2007

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

I don't think anybody will ever convince the average frat boy that modern warfare is stupid. It's like trying to introduce new music to people who listen exclusively to Kesha

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

mitu123

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Halo isn't far behind.

topgunmv

Halo has 8 games if you count spin off titles, otherwise its 7 fps. Call of Duty has 8.

Ya, polar opposites all right:roll:

There are only seven Halo games...

1. Halo: Combat Evolved
2. Halo 2
3. Halo 3
4. Halo Wars
5. Halo 3: ODST
6. Halo: Reach
7. Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary

That's seven, count them, seven games.I know for a fact I'm not missing any of them.

Then Call of Duty has...

1. Call of Duty
2. Call of Duty: Finest Hour
3. Call of Duty 2
4. Call of Duty 2: Big Red One
5. Call of Duty 3
6. Call of Duty: Roads to Victory
7. Call of Duty 4
8. Call of Duty: World at War
9. Call of Duty: World at War: Final Fronts
10. Call of Duty: World at War: Zombies
11. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
12. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Mobilized
13. Call of Duty: Black Ops
14. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
15. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3: Defiance

That's fifteen games. Sure, not thirty as I incorrectly recalled, but it's more than double Halo's output and in two less years.

Note: I didn't include ports like Modern Warfare Reflex edition and Call of Duty clas$icc or expansion packs like United Offensive. Each of the games I listed are entirely different. Hell I didn't even count games like the N-Gage version of Call of Duty and the DS version of DoD4 just because they didn't have different title despite the fact that they're technically entirely different games.

So much for MW3 not beating Black Ops.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

dvalo9

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] In Halo's ten years of existence there have been seven games, counting spin off titles. Call of Duty has had around thirty in it's seven years of existence. They're polar opposites. vashkey

Halo has 8 games if you count spin off titles, otherwise its 7 fps. Call of Duty has 8.

Ya, polar opposites all right:roll:

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

finalstar2007

Pokemon and change put together? really now? how have pokemon changed over the many years? its the same thing everytime every single year, you start with one pokemon, train them, catch them all over again, battle the gyms and thats it, over and over again every year and dont get me started on mario.

No, please go on. I want to hear this.

You forgot United Offensive, and that's more of a full game than a simple expansion.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]You forgot United Offensive, and that's more of a full game than a simple expansion.

vashkey

I hope so. I am so sick of every game trying to copy off of CoD. The CoD formula is incredibly stale now and overly played out. Battlefield 3 will win FPS of the year on GS anyway

BPoole96

Neither BF3 or CoD MW3 is winning GotY for shooters, not with an 8.5.

CoD didn't become the leader of the FPS market by copying Halo now did it?

You'd think devs would try to be successful doing their own thing. Innovate, maybe you'll get something special. Worst case scenario, only 500 people will be playing at a time down the line, but thats what happens when you clone CoD anyway...

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

vashkey

Halo isn't far behind.

CoD didn't become the leader of the FPS market by copying Halo now did it?

You'd think devs would try to be successful doing their own thing. Innovate, maybe you'll get something special. Worst case scenario, only 500 people will be playing at a time down the line, but thats what happens when you clone CoD anyway...

RandomWinner

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Halo isn't far behind.

Mozelleple112

I've always wondered about if the hardcore Call of Duty fans have played since the beginning or hopped on Call of Duty 4 then foamed at the mouth when Modern Warfare 2 and the others came out. I've been playing them since day 1 and even I realize the bad and I guess some good changes have had on the games over the years. Nothing of that series still beats the first and it's expansion pack.xXDrPainXx

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="vashkey"] In Halo's ten years of existence there have been seven games, counting spin off titles. Call of Duty has had around thirty in it's seven years of existence. They're polar opposites. vashkey

If you're going to include things like ios zombie mode cods then might as well.

Like I said though, if you don't count spin offs, halo has 7 (including halo4) and cod has 8.

If the next cod is confirmed then put it at 9. Still not far apart.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Halo isn't far behind.

Mozelleple112

So apparently MW3 has shattered the records set by BlOps:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/88466/modern-warfare-3-smashes-week-one-sales-record/

This of course after the massive campaign by DICE and BF3 to be "Above and Beyond the Call". :lol:

We all know DICE, GG, Zipper, and others have been modifying their formula over the years to try to steal COD's thunder. Well, as this article shows, COD has done nothing but sell more and more copies with each annual release. COD is not going to be beaten by anyone but themselves or when the public eventually tires of the gameplay. There is absolutely nothing DICE or anyone else can do about it.

So that being said, will the chase for COD finally stop? Will these devs finally stop mimicing the COD formula and get back to making their own games with their own identity? How about a BF4 with a command structure back and more than 3 maps with heavy vehicle content? How about a Socom 5 that gets back to the single-mode maps of the Socom 1/2 days that made that series popular? How about a Killzone 4 that gets back to the balance, massive maps, and brutal gameplay of Killzone 2?

BTW, I tried to make that URL a link, but I kept getting some stupid HTML errors over and over that made no sense.-ArchAngeL-777-

Thank god someone else has the same thinking as I do. I, too, am very tired and sick of all these games trying to copy and do what COD does. Like I've said so many times in BF3 arguments, if I wanted to play COD i'll play COD. If your not COD then do your own thing that stands out and that's what separates you from the rest.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Halo isn't far behind.

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Call of Duty started last gen, and it already has 8 core $50-$60 iterations.

That is beyond milkage...that's just insanity.

They should start numbering Call of Duty with Roman numerals:

2012 - Call of Duty IX

2013 - Call of Duty X

2014 - Call of Duty XI

2015 - Call of Duty XII

2016 - Call of Duty XIII

That way gamers could keep track.

mitu123

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

O raly? There was a halo game last year, the year before it, there is a halo game this year and will be next year, that overated thing is releasing every single year

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

If games like Mario, pokemon, halo and so on release every single year then why cant Call of Duty do it too? its simple if you dont want to buy it then dont, its breaking worldwide records because people LOVE IT! its such an addicting series :oops:

finalstar2007

O raly? There was a halo game last year, the year before it, there is a halo game this year and will be next year, that overated thing is releasing every single year

[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

CoD didn't become the leader of the FPS market by copying Halo now did it?

You'd think devs would try to be successful doing their own thing. Innovate, maybe you'll get something special. Worst case scenario, only 500 people will be playing at a time down the line, but thats what happens when you clone CoD anyway...

vashkey

Good point. But I think that they're as dis-similar as they could be. CoD has regenerating Health, but it takes 3 bullets to kill someone in CoD rather than a clip in Halo. The weapons are realistic, the game runs at 60FPS, you unlock gun after gun while your rank goes up, and there are kill-streaks. I think this is what made it popular more than regenerating health and two weapon capacity. But your right, it did take more than the first person view looking down a barrel.

[QUOTE="vashkey"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] Halo, Halo PC (2003), Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 2 PC (2007) Halo 3: ODST, Halo Wars, Halo: anniversary and Halo: Reach = 9 games in 10 years Call of Duty, Call of Duty: UO, Call of Duty: BOR, Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty 3, Call of Duty 4, Call of duty: WAW, COD: MW2, COD: BO, COD: MW3 10 games in 8 yearstopgunmv

If you're going to include things like ios zombie mode cods then might as well.

Like I said though, if you don't count spin offs, halo has 7 (including halo4) and cod has 8.

If the next cod is confirmed then put it at 9. Still not far apart.

There is no if about the next CoD, it was already confirmed and even if it hadn't been there'd be no question at this point there will be a CoD next year.

They learned its benificial?

BF3 was the most succesful launch in EA history.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] You missed the other five Call of Duty games I pointed out earlier... And you're counting the PC version of the Halo games as entirely different games? Then I guess Call of Duty has like one hundred titles.

vashkey

If you're going to include things like ios zombie mode cods then might as well.

Like I said though, if you don't count spin offs, halo has 7 (including halo4) and cod has 8.

If the next cod is confirmed then put it at 9. Still not far apart.

There is no if about the next CoD, it was already confirmed and even if it hadn't been there'd be no question at this point there will be a CoD next year.

The only spinoff is halo wars. Halo was never about just the master chief (half the time you play as the covenant in halo2).

at least those games actually change the formula. pokemon has changed a lot over the years, as with mario and the rest. cod has remained stagnant.Firebird-5

Pokemon and change put together? really now? how have pokemon changed over the many years? its the same thing everytime every single year, you start with one pokemon, train them, catch them all over again, battle the gyms and thats it, over and over again every year and dont get me started on mario. Call of Duty changes in terms of online ( i dont care about story in CoD ), new perks, streaks, features every release exactly same with the games i listed. if people got tired of it you wouldnt see it breaking records every single year right? in terms of shooters, no shooter can even come close to the superior Call of Duty