Have games lost their charm?

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

Phantom_Menace

No offense but if you're talking about games as in all games then I don't know why you even wrote this thread.

How can ALL games lose its charm or hell how can all games be anything. That's like saying have all films lost it's spirit?
There are SO many different games from PC, Mac, 360, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP, Mobile and other devices...

How can they all have lost anything? I think gaming is great IMO. Sure there are problems with length and price but IMO the innovation is amazing and the story telling is only getting better as well as the acting. Bioshock being a great example of amazing acting work for games

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

Phantom_Menace

If you play a lot of games then they will always become jaded eventually. It is like everything else, there are only so many different ideas out there and once you've seen most of them then seeing them again in a different format just isn't as fun.

I think Mass Effect will have plenty of charm. Everything I have seen of that game has me wanting it more then anything else this year.

I think Mass Effect will have plenty of charm. Everything I have seen of that game has me wanting it more then anything else this year.

NitaraPwnzU

I feel the same way. If it is 1/2 as good as KOTOR I will be happy. And it was the story that made that a great game not graphics.

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

Phantom_Menace

It could just be your age and level of maturity. I know that after gaming for over 20 years no game these days excite and capture me like they did when i was young. it's because in general i see the same themes and gameplay with new twists being used. that and I don't have the time for the repetition in order to advance that many games contain.

also as you get older there are more things to do with your time. and then gaming becomes less important.

I'm not one to complain about great graphics; I love great graphics. And some of these new games look amazing.

But it seems that maybe too much importance is put on the graphics. Obviously a game shouldn't look terrible, and they should have some degree of polish. But I think that they pay so much attention to the graphics that at least some games lose these little quirks that make them stand out and hit a cord with people.

I'm not saying that new games aren't good, because they are.

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Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

Ontain

It could just be your age and level of maturity. I know that after gaming for over 20 years no game these days excite and capture me like they did when i was young. it's because in general i see the same themes and gameplay with new twists being used. that and I don't have the time for the repetition in order to advance that many games contain.

also as you get older there are more things to do with your time. and then gaming becomes less important.

It could very well be that.

I don't play games as much as I used to. And they generally don't excite me as much. The only games that have really caught me attention lately are Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden 2 and The Force Unleashed. The last one because I'm a sucker for Star Wars.

I have to disagree, i have beat Zelda Twilight Princess 6 times, over 100 hours andi've done everything i can i that game, and for some reason i just keep coming back, because the game is so incredibly beatiful and fun, it still has the charm it had the first time i play itand im sure many upcoming games will too. SuperMario_46

Zelda is one of the few series that I can usually keep going back to. I haven't had a chance to play Twilight Princess yet though. I am currently replaying Ocarina of Time though.

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

Phantom_Menace

I think everything about video gaming has changed, this generation is pretty nasty, fans hating each other, developers talking crap about other developers work, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo with barbs and jabs at each other. things have been very mean spirited. gaming has really lost its innocence, everything is just bloodier, louder, sexier than it used to be.

we used to play mario games and just have fun and enjoy them, when you finished the game, you just played it again. fun fun fun!

now its all about, the cell, sixaxis, b-ray, hd-dvd, magical controllers, how long a game is, how many colors, shaders, pixels, aliasing, is it T for teen or is it M or AO,who's system gets hotter, who's controller is better, RROD's, exclusives!

I remeberdebating whichsystem was better, Nintendo's or Sega's, but we all had fun playing with either one, when all we thought about was, if our system was 8bit or 16bit, when the next mario game was due, when the next sonic game would show up, cute but nothing special words like blast processor, things we heard but didn't live or die bye. I miss those days.

I do think so. Developers are tyring to hard to make games like movies and I am not sure why. There have been lots of games this gen that I have enjoyed but none that have stuck in my mind like the great game of old did. Things that stick in my mind: Mario jumping off the cliff onto the flag pole, the sound of the flute in Zelda, the music in the underworld in Metroid, the first time I played GTA, when I first got to use the lightsaber in KOTOR, The first scene in FF7 with the CGI of the train racing through the city and panning back as cloud jumps from the train and the fight starts. Just little touches that made the old games memorial. Now it is just about graphics, bells and whistles. The only thing that comes close this gen is the first time I came out of the sewers in Oblivion and saw the bright world around me with the sound of the birds and the wind and the mountains in the distance. But that was graphical charm only.jbeen

I agree! :D

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Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

LEGEND_C4A

I think everything about video gaming has changed, this generation is pretty nasty, fans hating each other, developers talking crap about other developers work, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo with barbs and jabs at each other. things have been very mean spirited. gaming has really lost its innocence, everything is just bloodier, louder, sexier than it used to be.

we used to play mario games and just have fun and enjoy them, when you finished the game, you just played it again. fun fun fun!

now its all about, the cell, sixaxis, b-ray, hd-dvd, magical controllers, how long a game is, how many colors, shaders, pixels, aliasing, is it T for teen or is it M or AO,who's system gets hotter, who's controller is better, RROD's, exclusives!

I remeberdebating whichsystem was better, Nintendo's or Sega's, but we all had fun playing with either one, when all we thought about was, if our system was 8bit or 16bit, when the next mario game was due, when the next sonic game would show up, cute but nothing special words like blast processor, things we heard but didn't live or die bye. I miss those days.

I miss those days,but again those where the days when consoles at most where $200 and games new where $30-$40 (sorry if they where cheeper I started to play video games around late 94 early 95 :().Now and days everybody has to flx their epeen and donkey punch the next person who doesnt like their style In games and console

[QUOTE="Phantom_Menace"]

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

LEGEND_C4A

I think everything about video gaming has changed, this generation is pretty nasty, fans hating each other, developers talking crap about other developers work, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo with barbs and jabs at each other. things have been very mean spirited. gaming has really lost its innocence, everything is just bloodier, louder, sexier than it used to be.

we used to play mario games and just have fun and enjoy them, when you finished the game, you just played it again. fun fun fun!

now its all about, the cell, sixaxis, b-ray, hd-dvd, magical controllers, how long a game is, how many colors, shaders, pixels, aliasing, is it T for teen or is it M or AO,who's system gets hotter, who's controller is better, RROD's, exclusives!

I remeberdebating whichsystem was better, Nintendo's or Sega's, but we all had fun playing with either one, when all we thought about was, if our system was 8bit or 16bit, when the next mario game was due, when the next sonic game would show up, cute but nothing special words like blast processor, things we heard but didn't live or die bye. I miss those days.

Yeah, I dislike all the feuding and mudslinging; its all very unnecessary and pointless. Every company has their own games, and things the do well. And certain people will like what one company does more than another.

I hate the format war breaking into the video game market and discussion. And all the other things, like making too much of a big deal about graphics... they're nice, but I can live with NES or SNES graphics.

Exclusives are important. But if I had the money and time, I'd get all three current consoles.

[QUOTE="Phantom_Menace"]

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

LEGEND_C4A

I think everything about video gaming has changed, this generation is pretty nasty, fans hating each other, developers talking crap about other developers work, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo with barbs and jabs at each other. things have been very mean spirited. gaming has really lost its innocence, everything is just bloodier, louder, sexier than it used to be.

we used to play mario games and just have fun and enjoy them, when you finished the game, you just played it again. fun fun fun!

now its all about, the cell, sixaxis, b-ray, hd-dvd, magical controllers, how long a game is, how many colors, shaders, pixels, aliasing, is it T for teen or is it M or AO,who's system gets hotter, who's controller is better, RROD's, exclusives!

I remeberdebating whichsystem was better, Nintendo's or Sega's, but we all had fun playing with either one, when all we thought about was, if our system was 8bit or 16bit, when the next mario game was due, when the next sonic game would show up, cute but nothing special words like blast processor, things we heard but didn't live or die bye. I miss those days.

Not that I want to make this my political "sign of the times" paragraph but I think you can say a lot of this is true about life in general. People are more mean spirited in general and innocence is frowned upon by society. If you are friendly you are considered weak. People only feel good about themselves when the other person is more miserable them them. Life, much like video games, has become way to complicated sometimes, and that is why I like some of the old games and I look back at them with with strong sentimental feelings. Because they used to be innocent and fun (think Mega Man and Mario)not dark and dreary (Bioshock and RE). But I guess it is true, Life imitates art and visa versa. Sorry I am done my "old guy" rant of the day.

[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Phantom_Menace"]

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

jbeen

I think everything about video gaming has changed, this generation is pretty nasty, fans hating each other, developers talking crap about other developers work, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo with barbs and jabs at each other. things have been very mean spirited. gaming has really lost its innocence, everything is just bloodier, louder, sexier than it used to be.

we used to play mario games and just have fun and enjoy them, when you finished the game, you just played it again. fun fun fun!

now its all about, the cell, sixaxis, b-ray, hd-dvd, magical controllers, how long a game is, how many colors, shaders, pixels, aliasing, is it T for teen or is it M or AO,who's system gets hotter, who's controller is better, RROD's, exclusives!

I remeberdebating whichsystem was better, Nintendo's or Sega's, but we all had fun playing with either one, when all we thought about was, if our system was 8bit or 16bit, when the next mario game was due, when the next sonic game would show up, cute but nothing special words like blast processor, things we heard but didn't live or die bye. I miss those days.

Not that I want to make this my political "sign of the times" paragraph but I think you can say a lot of this is true about life in general. People are more mean spirited in general and innocence is frowned upon by society. If you are friendly you are considered weak. People only feel good about themselves when the other person is more miserable them them. Life, much like video games, has become way to complicated sometimes, and that is why I like some of the old games and I look back at them with with strong sentimental feelings. Because they used to be innocent and fun (think Mega Man and Mario)not dark and dreary (Bioshock and RE). But I guess it is true, Life imitates art and visa versa. Sorry I am done my "old guy" rant of the day.

nothing to apologize about! you are absolutely right, I guess overall, everything has just changed, and not exactly for the better.

[QUOTE="Phantom_Menace"]

Now, I don't mean that in a sense that games are not worth playing anymore, not at all.

What I mean is: have games lost that little something--maybe just a few scenes or just how the game struck you, but it made you feel endeared to them, gave them replay value and long lasting appeal because of that something they have.

I want to know if you think games have lost their charm.

LEGEND_C4A

I think everything about video gaming has changed, this generation is pretty nasty, fans hating each other, developers talking crap about other developers work, Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo with barbs and jabs at each other. things have been very mean spirited. gaming has really lost its innocence, everything is just bloodier, louder, sexier than it used to be.

we used to play mario games and just have fun and enjoy them, when you finished the game, you just played it again. fun fun fun!

now its all about, the cell, sixaxis, b-ray, hd-dvd, magical controllers, how long a game is, how many colors, shaders, pixels, aliasing, is it T for teen or is it M or AO,who's system gets hotter, who's controller is better, RROD's, exclusives!

I remeberdebating whichsystem was better, Nintendo's or Sega's, but we all had fun playing with either one, when all we thought about was, if our system was 8bit or 16bit, when the next mario game was due, when the next sonic game would show up, cute but nothing special words like blast processor, things we heard but didn't live or die bye. I miss those days.

You smoothed over a few facts. You mentioned the 16 bit era, but didn't really highlight that all this started THERE, almost 20 years ago.

Sega fans thought Nintendo fans were a bunch of kids (and Toys r Us marketed them that way. I worked there for a few weeks selling games). Not much different than the rest of the gaming world feels about Nintendo today.

Sega took shots at Mario, and did it on national T.V. Nintedno and Sega BOTH had a long standing feud at game expo's (although that was mostly in fun, playing pranks on each other).

Hell, I remember taking shots at my friends Intellivision, while I had an Atari 2600.

I remember another friend taking shots at MY Atari 5200, claiming his Colecovision had better graphics.

Really, nothing ever changes. Except your perspective.

Depends of what you look for in games.

For me, they have definitively lost a part of what charmed me.

I think some charm is gone, but I blame it more on my over researching titles im interested in so I know too much about them. So when I play there, there are no surprises and I don't get to enjoy it.

But then a title I over looked or just didnt care about could completely blow me away simply cuz I didnt know anything about it.

So part of it might be growing up, part of it might be our own fault.