Have we started to see the PS3 difference???

We've all seen and heard the mulitple reviewers atesting to the fact that overall, the PS3 has slight graphical advantages over the 360 when it comes to GTA4. for example

IGN stated that the ps3 has

"far less pop-in,Texture pop, and frame rate issues than the 360 version"

we know that sam houser from rockstar has even said himself, that he prefers the way that the PS3 renders.

today weve heard from devs at pandemic who stated " But it sounds like PS3 might actually get the better looking version in the end. Zamkoff reckons that PlayStation 3 is better than Xbox 360 at anti-aliasing"

so what do you guys think, i own both consoles so i am cool either way.....am i just off base here?

My feeling is that Sony set an unrealistic expectation pre-PS3 release that the PS3 would be far & beyond better at graphics than the competition at launch. It's not really the hardware's fault, but more of PR BS.

Honestly, I love the look of Ratchet & Clank:ToD, but it's not lightyears ahead of games like Gears.

My feeling is that Sony set an unrealistic expectation pre-PS3 release that the PS3 would be far & beyond better at graphics than the competition at launch. It's not really the hardware's fault, but more of PR BS.

Honestly, I love the look of Ratchet & Clank:ToD, but it's not lightyears ahead of games like Gears.

shaggygrosser

True.

But they haven't exactly mislead people on what PS3 might eventually do. When I look at the Killzine II 06 CGI trailer I go "WOW"...and then I look at the Killzone II 07 realtime/gameplay trailer I go "WOW...doesen't really look that much diffrent"

Devs are getting how the PS3 works now. the first year is always rough for a system, the 360 got HD ps2 ports its first year

DMC4, Burnout P, GTA4. the 3 biggest multiplat releases SO FAR this year run better on ps3.

Im sure we will see the bad ps3 port now and again (EA sports) but it is looking bright for ps3 games

I don't think it was much of a secret that eventually the PS3 would begin to pull ahead. The problem is that I'm not going to choose a slight gfx advantange over playing games with my rl friends and the majority of them only own 360's.

i disagree on the comparison between gears and rathcet and clank tho.....

the fidelity between the two is kore in the favor of R&C

but ultimately what people need to remember is that the PS3 is newer better tech...just like the difference between the PS2 and the xbox.

i disagree on the comparison between gears and rathcet and clank tho.....

the fidelity between the two is kore in the favor of R&C

but ultimately what people need to remember is that the PS3 is newer better tech...just like the difference between the PS2 and the xbox.

Escobahr

not at all the difference between the ps2 and xbox was large you could of even seen it with launch xbox games like halo

the difference between the ps3 and 360 this gen are so close that arguing about it is a moot point and only left to the fanboys

you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insParadiddleFill

same thing buddy. ;)

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insicarus212001

same thing buddy. ;)

no not same thing buddy

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insicarus212001

same thing buddy. ;)

No, its not, pop-in is when objects appear on the screen, framerate is how many Frames Per Second the game runs at.

[QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insParadiddleFill

same thing buddy. ;)

no not same thing buddy

bad frame rate leads to pop ups.

and I'm not your buddy, guy! lol

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insicarus212001

same thing buddy. ;)

no not same thing buddy

bad frame rate leads to pop ups.

and I'm not your buddy, guy! lol

Again, no it doesn't.

[QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insNagidar

same thing buddy. ;)

No, its not, pop-in is when objects appear on the screen, framerate is how many Frames Per Second the game runs at.

exactly! the lower the frames per second, the more things magically pop up when a new frame is introduced.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insicarus212001

same thing buddy. ;)

no not same thing buddy

bad frame rate leads to pop ups.

and I'm not your buddy, guy! lol

framerate and popins are two diffrent things please think before typing

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insicarus212001

same thing buddy. ;)

No, its not, pop-in is when objects appear on the screen, framerate is how many Frames Per Second the game runs at.

exactly! the lower the frames per second, the more things magically pop up when a new frame is introduced.

no they have nothing to do with each other

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insicarus212001

same thing buddy. ;)

No, its not, pop-in is when objects appear on the screen, framerate is how many Frames Per Second the game runs at.

exactly! the lower the frames per second, the more things magically pop up when a new frame is introduced.

No, thats not how it works, pop-in can be when an object appears in the distance, frame rate is how many FPS the game runs at.

[QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insParadiddleFill

same thing buddy. ;)

No, its not, pop-in is when objects appear on the screen, framerate is how many Frames Per Second the game runs at.

exactly! the lower the frames per second, the more things magically pop up when a new frame is introduced.

no they have nothing to do with each other

w/e you say. GTA4 still looks better on PS3, regardless.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insicarus212001

same thing buddy. ;)

No, its not, pop-in is when objects appear on the screen, framerate is how many Frames Per Second the game runs at.

exactly! the lower the frames per second, the more things magically pop up when a new frame is introduced.

no they have nothing to do with each other

w/e you say. GTA4 still looks better on PS3, regardless.

And now it comes out, it was the fanboy talking.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

icarus212001

no they have nothing to do with each other

w/e you say. GTA4 still looks better on PS3, regardless.

what are you 12?

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insicarus212001

same thing buddy. ;)

no not same thing buddy

bad frame rate leads to pop ups.

and I'm not your buddy, guy! lol

Frame rate, and pop ups are two totally different things. The frame rate has nothng to do with how the console draws objects on the screen. Frame rate is how fast the animations on the screen runs. I suggest you do some research on the subject.

[QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

ParadiddleFill

no they have nothing to do with each other

w/e you say. GTA4 still looks better on PS3, regardless.

what are you 12?

nope. 18. :D but i do think of myself as more childlike than most people my age. oh well. beats being a stiff.

[QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="icarus212001"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="icarus212001"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insNagidar

same thing buddy. ;)

No, its not, pop-in is when objects appear on the screen, framerate is how many Frames Per Second the game runs at.

exactly! the lower the frames per second, the more things magically pop up when a new frame is introduced.

no they have nothing to do with each other

w/e you say. GTA4 still looks better on PS3, regardless.

And now it comes out, it was the fanboy talking.

dont even have a PS3, friend. i have a Wii. but i have played it a little on the 360 (friend's house) and the PS3 (cousin's house). since I actually have eyes, i saw for myself that the PS3 version ran smoother with less clipping and less pop ups. the frame rate was a bit slower on the 360 but its nothing that would cause multiple heart attacks to 360 owners (at least, i hope not :|) .

Well the PS3 is the more powerful console. How much more powerful is still up in the air. We have seen a few games on the PS3 look and run better than games on the 360. Though not to many.

Pretty much they are equal in power. It really comes down to how the developers program the games on the systems.

Devs are getting how the PS3 works now. the first year is always rough for a system, the 360 got HD ps2 ports its first year

DMC4, Burnout P, GTA4. the 3 biggest multiplat releases SO FAR this year run better on ps3.

Im sure we will see the bad ps3 port now and again (EA sports) but it is looking bright for ps3 games

niall077

Actually, DMC4 is well known to look better on the 360 - see eurogamer comparison - and GTA4 runs at a lower res on the ps3 and suffers from, according to IGN, more framerate issues than the 360 version - all this despite a 5 gig install!!!

And the ps3 is pulling ahead how???

[QUOTE="niall077"]

Devs are getting how the PS3 works now. the first year is always rough for a system, the 360 got HD ps2 ports its first year

DMC4, Burnout P, GTA4. the 3 biggest multiplat releases SO FAR this year run better on ps3.

Im sure we will see the bad ps3 port now and again (EA sports) but it is looking bright for ps3 games

proninjas

Actually, DMC4 is well known to look better on the 360 - see eurogamer comparison - and GTA4 runs at a lower res on the ps3 and suffers from, according to IGN, more framerate issues than the 360 version - all this despite a 5 gig install!!!

And the ps3 is pulling ahead how???

by seeing that you are a troll! *casts Ultima*

[QUOTE="proninjas"][QUOTE="niall077"]

Devs are getting how the PS3 works now. the first year is always rough for a system, the 360 got HD ps2 ports its first year

DMC4, Burnout P, GTA4. the 3 biggest multiplat releases SO FAR this year run better on ps3.

Im sure we will see the bad ps3 port now and again (EA sports) but it is looking bright for ps3 games

icarus212001

Actually, DMC4 is well known to look better on the 360 - see eurogamer comparison - and GTA4 runs at a lower res on the ps3 and suffers from, according to IGN, more framerate issues than the 360 version - all this despite a 5 gig install!!!

And the ps3 is pulling ahead how???

by seeing that you are a troll! *casts Ultima*

Umm.. I can back up everything I said with links to well known websites. For comparisons just search for eurogamer DMC4 comparison - the 360 version wins.

Just read the IGN review to see that GTA on ps3 suffers from more framerate issues.

Unlike some people here, I based my posts on reality... not dreams.

[QUOTE="niall077"]

Devs are getting how the PS3 works now. the first year is always rough for a system, the 360 got HD ps2 ports its first year

DMC4, Burnout P, GTA4. the 3 biggest multiplat releases SO FAR this year run better on ps3.

Im sure we will see the bad ps3 port now and again (EA sports) but it is looking bright for ps3 games

proninjas

Actually, DMC4 is well known to look better on the 360 - see eurogamer comparison - and GTA4 runs at a lower res on the ps3 and suffers from, according to IGN, more framerate issues than the 360 version - all this despite a 5 gig install!!!

And the ps3 is pulling ahead how???

Did you read the IGN review? It clearly stated the PS3 version had less frame rate issues and pop-in than the 360 version. This were sentiments that EGM/1UP backed up as well. The only review that stated the PS3 had more frame-rate hiccups was Kotaku, and in the end they still gave the graphical/performance edge to the PS3 version.

And yes, those are all things a 5 gig install allowed to be possible.

Well the PS3 is the more powerful console. How much more powerful is still up in the air. We have seen a few games on the PS3 look and run better than games on the 360. Though not to many.

Pretty much they are equal in power. It really comes down to how the developers program the games on the systems.

Wasdie

Always good to hear from you wasdie, your right it really is a matter of programming. scince both consoles are bottle-necked where it hurts i doubt very much the gap between the ps3 and 360 is as big as some would like to believe

you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more pop insParadiddleFill

This is true

Couldn't really give a *****! This arguement is getting tired and old and people STILL just bring forth the same old BS day in and day out.

Getting GTA IV for 360 because of the achievements, better online, more of my friends own a 360 and simply the PS3 is a piece of crap better textures and all.

Devs are getting how the PS3 works now. the first year is always rough for a system, the 360 got HD ps2 ports its first year

DMC4, Burnout P, GTA4. the 3 biggest multiplat releases SO FAR this year run better on ps3.

Im sure we will see the bad ps3 port now and again (EA sports) but it is looking bright for ps3 games

niall077

Might wanna rethink that Devil May Cry 4 one. Did you play it on 360? I have and my friend did on PS3. Guess what? BOTH RUN THE SAME! No slowdowns, no pop ins, and EXACT same loading. 2 seconds MAX! Get off the written internet reviews and do your own research you'll be surprised at what's misleading out there on the interwebs.

you have misquoted ign they never said 360 version has worse frame rate actually if you read the kotaku review they say the 360 has better framerate and beter AA, the ign just said that the 360 version has more popinsParadiddleFill

For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/869/869381p5.html

You PS3 fans are delusional, those aren't differences that should even be worth mentioning. And it only exists because PS3 was the lead platform. The same thing happens when 360 is the lead platform. Lost planet and Turok anyone? There will never ever be a drastic difference between the two systems. They are roughly equal in terms of power.Ramadear

Actually, the 360 was the lead platform for GTA IV. Get your facts straight.

While PS3 games should look better then 360 games as the console is a year newer,

To expect the same sort of difference we saw between the Original Xbox and the PS2 is just not realistic, the PS3 will look better but only to trained eyes.

Nope. So far the only differences are because of installs. not "teh Cell"
Gaara79

dude, you have to INSTALL ps3 games?????????????????? :D ridiculous.

You PS3 fans are delusional, those aren't differences that should even be worth mentioning. And it only exists because PS3 was the lead platform. The same thing happens when 360 is the lead platform. Lost planet and Turok anyone? There will never ever be a drastic difference between the two systems. They are roughly equal in terms of power.Ramadear

As far as GTA is concerned, the 360 was the lead platform.

[QUOTE="Gaara79"]Nope. So far the only differences are because of installs. not "teh Cell"
crunchUK

dude, you have to INSTALL ps3 games?????????????????? :D ridiculous.

Most ps3 games make the install optional to improve performance. But you have to install PS3 demos, which I DO find ridiculous.