Heavenly Sword combat system seems underwelming

GOW was fun to an extent, why the hell would the devs of this game recycle those same combat mechanics?  Seriously after watching this vid http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/700/700186/vid_1994073.html I was like WTF.  I guess you just kill this crowd of enemies, walk 5 feet and wait for the next herd of (stupid standing around waiting to be killed) enemies.

*watches vid again*

Ug, just look at that stupid AI OMFG can it get anymore last gen?  Come On!!!!

I think it looks pretty good but I must admit I'm much more excited about Uncharted rather than HS now.

HS is really weird, like it could be great or it could suck, we just gotta wait and see I suppose. 

Every time I see something new about Heavenly Sword, Prince of Persia comes to mind.

And that's far from a bad thing. I think it'll do just fine. 

GOW was fun to an extent, why the hell would the devs of this game recycle those same combat mechanics?  Seriously after watching this vid http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/700/700186/vid_1994073.html I was like WTF.  I guess you just kill this crowd of enemies, walk 5 feet and wait for the next herd of (stupid standing around waiting to be killed) enemies.

*watches vid again*

Ug, just look at that stupid AI OMFG can it get anymore last gen?  Come On!!!!

CB4McGusto

Two things:

1) 1200 of the 3000 frames of animations in the characters are being used.

2) The AI is probably purposely dumped down due to the fact that it's a demo to the public of a major Sony convention.

2) The AI is probably purposely dumped down due to the fact that it's a demo to the public of a major Sony convention.

hotdaisy18

Er...why? 

GOW was fun to an extent, why the hell would the devs of this game recycle those same combat mechanics? Seriously after watching this vid http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/700/700186/vid_1994073.html I was like WTF. I guess you just kill this crowd of enemies, walk 5 feet and wait for the next herd of (stupid standing around waiting to be killed) enemies.

*watches vid again*

Ug, just look at that stupid AI OMFG can it get anymore last gen? Come On!!!!

CB4McGusto

I think it it adds more aspects then GoW and will be more enjoyable. It will be a solid game and alternative to GoW, DMC, and NG, but it won't be a GOTY canditate. 

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

2) The AI is probably purposely dumped down due to the fact that it's a demo to the public of a major Sony convention.

D0013ER

Er...why? 

Because after the developers demostration, then the game is shown and playable in their arcade section of the show. If the game is too hard, would it turn off games? Visa versa? I'm sure there are reasons why we aren't seeing some hardcore difficulty in the demo we see. It's just to show the game.

I think it looks pretty good but I must admit I'm much more excited about Uncharted rather than HS now.

HS is really weird, like it could be great or it could suck, we just gotta wait and see I suppose.

the-very-best

Uncharted looks like it will be the best Action/Adventure game since RE4.(I count NG and DMC just as Action^^)

I do not think it will be as good as RE...But probably one of the best games of this year.

Heavenly Sword...The game looks great. But the gameplay is starting to look kind of sad. Ive been noticing it seems like you are locked in arena almost everytime. And it looks like it will be a bit too many CPU controller moves...Ala God of War Killing blow(QTEs). 

you say the gameplay is underwhelming like you have played it. haved they announced the control scheme yet?Flame1

You don't have to be a fanboy just because you don't agree my opinion. 

I just can't stand having enemies standing on screen breathing and waiting for their turn to be slaughterd. This is next gen I expect them to surround you and move in all toghter for the kill, I mean Jesus Christ this is the Cell we're talking about here! Give me a challenge here, seriously playing this game is going to be like playing Tekken 3 with my 8 year old cousin who just button mashes the hell out of me with Eddy Gordo!CB4McGusto

Well, you would survive for more than 5 seconds if the AI did that... If you don't do anything the AI does attack you, it shouldn't really be any harder than that. Like in GTA, if the AI was realisticaly hard, would die in seconds, the AI needs to be dumbed down... 

[QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

2) The AI is probably purposely dumped down due to the fact that it's a demo to the public of a major Sony convention.

hotdaisy18

Er...why? 

Because after the developers demostration, then the game is shown and playable in their arcade section of the show. If the game is too hard, would it turn off games? Visa versa? I'm sure there are reasons why we aren't seeing some hardcore difficulty in the demo we see. It's just to show the game.

Kind of like DMC4 with it's easy difficulty in the demo.  That suprised me seeing as how hard DMC3 was, hell I almost threw a hissy fit while playing that game and I was a grown ass man at the time!:P

[QUOTE="hotdaisy18"][QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="hotdaisy18"]

2) The AI is probably purposely dumped down due to the fact that it's a demo to the public of a major Sony convention.

CB4McGusto

Er...why? 

Because after the developers demostration, then the game is shown and playable in their arcade section of the show. If the game is too hard, would it turn off games? Visa versa? I'm sure there are reasons why we aren't seeing some hardcore difficulty in the demo we see. It's just to show the game.

Kind of like DMC4 with it's easy difficulty in the demo.  That suprised me seeing as how hard DMC3 was, hell I almost threw a hissy fit while playing that game and I was a grown ass man at the time!:P

Exactly. Now we're thinking alike. And it's Soul Glow! -loves Coming to America-

GOW was fun to an extent, why the hell would the devs of this game recycle those same combat mechanics? Seriously after watching this vid http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/700/700186/vid_1994073.html I was like WTF. I guess you just kill this crowd of enemies, walk 5 feet and wait for the next herd of (stupid standing around waiting to be killed) enemies.

*watches vid again*

Ug, just look at that stupid AI OMFG can it get anymore last gen? Come On!!!!

CB4McGusto

Heavanly Sword+dumb AI+TIMER=

/HS hype 

[QUOTE="Flame1"]you say the gameplay is underwhelming like you have played it. haved they announced the control scheme yet?CB4McGusto

You don't have to be a fanboy just because you don't agree my opinion.

im sorry i came off fanboyish, just think a major problem with system wars is people judge games on previews when they arent finished or when there is not much info about the game. it goes to that old saying dont judge a book by its cover.  we should all wait to see how the game turns out before we decide if it is good or bad. and i was seriously wondering if they announced the control scheme.  

Heavenly Sword is basically God of War meets Devil May Cry 3 with prettier graphics and no blood (as of yet).

Presentationally it seems really amazing but yeah Ninja Theory better not just put one button for you to push on continously.solidte

Don't worry. QTEs are in now!. When Shenmue was released in 1999, QTEs were considered taboo. But 8 years later, QTEs spice up the game! (I'm being sarcastic.)

Seriously, I don't understand the reviewers today. Pushing a button in a cutscene ruins the cutscene since I'm worried about pressing the next button.

But Heavenly Sword looks great (graphics). The combat looks cool, but the enemy AI was severely lacking.  When will developers learn from Ninja Gaiden?

I just can't stand having enemies standing on screen breathing and waiting for their turn to be slaughterd. This is next gen I expect them to surround you and move in all toghter for the kill, I mean Jesus Christ this is the Cell we're talking about here! Give me a challenge here, seriously playing this game is going to be like playing Tekken 3 with my 8 year old cousin who just button mashes the hell out of me with Eddy Gordo!CB4McGusto

It's a demo for crying out loud. Remember when Resistance vids were shown with bad AI. The actual game has some of the best AI in a FPS. 

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]I just can't stand having enemies standing on screen breathing and waiting for their turn to be slaughterd. This is next gen I expect them to surround you and move in all toghter for the kill, I mean Jesus Christ this is the Cell we're talking about here! Give me a challenge here, seriously playing this game is going to be like playing Tekken 3 with my 8 year old cousin who just button mashes the hell out of me with Eddy Gordo!Episode_Eve

It's a demo for crying out loud. Remember when Resistance vids were shown with bad AI. The actual game has some of the best AI in a FPS.

People will always criticize a demo as if it is final. It's a fair observation, anyways.