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#1 b0110x
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John Carmack and Itagaki were right when they said PS3 is the most powerful console. 8)
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John Carmack and Itagaki were right when they said PS3 is the most powerful console. 8)
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Well you could get better pictures for Gears of War next time... right now you are just trying to make Heavenly Sword look graphically superior by showing bad pictures of Gears. A comparison has to be fair and unbiased to be taken seriously.

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#3 asmallchild
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I don't think I can appreciate these images. I thought the Gears pictures looked better...
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#4 killtactics
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one is ingame (hud)... one is not...
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#5 ninjiijitsu
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Did John Carmack and Itagaki; really said the ps3 is powerful?
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#6 mutenpika
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one is ingame (hud)... one is not...killtactics


One is complete, one is not.

Still, we need a picture of the greenhouse in Gears to get a proper comparison.
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#7 UssjTrunks
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GeOW blows HS away. There is no compariosn here. Just take a look at facial expressions and detail.
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#8 BigDizz
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Gears looks better imo.

I like it's grafix style better

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#9 SergeantSnitch
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Taking grainy pictures of both games isn't really going to do you any good.  Also, Ninja Theory devs stated that the screens you just posted were from last October/November build of the game.  And if I recall correctly, Gears looks better than that.
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#10 Fr3357YL3
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Nice try fanboy.
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#11 Drukter
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Did John Carmack and Itagaki; really said the ps3 is powerful?ninjiijitsu
Dunno about Itagaki and I doubt it. But Carmack basically said PS3 has more power on the paper, but it's impossible to achieve anyway, because harder programmaning and weird architecture or something. Think it was G4 that interviewed him about that, vid is on Youtube for sure.
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#12 espoac
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I'll give the guys a reason why HS is better looking, just compare the two protagonists who's behinds you're staring at for hours on end.:wink: No offense Marcus.
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#13 asmallchild
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I'll give the guys a reason why HS is better looking, just compare the two protagonists who's behinds you're staring at for hours on end.:wink: No offense Marcus. espoac
Ahhh...very true!
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#14 TheCrimsonKoopa
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Gears looks better.
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#15 console_fanboy
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ROFL! Altho u picked the most horrible gears screens, it still PWNS heavenly flop XDDD. And not to mention, a game from 2006 PWNING a late 2007 game.... TC selfowned /thread.
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I'll give the guys a reason why HS is better looking, just compare the two protagonists who's behinds you're staring at for hours on end.:wink: No offense Marcus. espoac
cheap victory, but a wins a win
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Nice try fanboy.Fr3357YL3
Fanboy? That's his opinion. You really think GeoW is Top-notch to HS? Why can he think HS is top-notch to GeoW?
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[QUOTE="espoac"]I'll give the guys a reason why HS is better looking, just compare the two protagonists who's behinds you're staring at for hours on end.:wink: No offense Marcus. jg4xchamp
cheap victory, but a wins a win

:lol:
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You can't expect games to not improve graphically from months to come. Stop acting surprised because this was the case with last-gen as well.
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#20 guynextdoor1688
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Gears looks better imo.

I like it's grafix style better

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I hate people that say imo. but yea the pics you got there dont have much merit -_-
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[QUOTE="console_fanboy"]ROFL! Altho u picked the most horrible gears screens, it still PWNS heavenly flop XDDD. And not to mention, a game from 2006 PWNING a late 2007 game.... TC selfowned /thread.

Your name speak volumes to your comment.
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Did John Carmack and Itagaki; really said the ps3 is powerful?ninjiijitsu

John Carmack is just developer that likes to yap all the time, if he would just try an make great games instead of yapping all the time then he would maybe be put up der as one of the best. As for Itagaki he likes what the ps3 has to offer, if he didnt he wouldnt have brang ninja gaiden sigma over to the ps3. I think even with the small user base the ps3 has now, when sigma comes out, it will be a success, and look for Itagaki to start creating games for the ps3 aswell as time goes forward.

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#23 Ninja-Vox
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Gears = gameplay. HS = clearly not gameplay. If you cant do a fair comparison, dont bother making a thread.
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#24 cakeorrdeath
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Outside of the graphics and combat system what do we know about Heveanly Sword?
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[QUOTE="ninjiijitsu"]Did John Carmack and Itagaki; really said the ps3 is powerful?squallff8_fan

John Carmack is just developer that likes to yap all the time, if he would just try an make great games instead of yapping all the time then he would maybe be put up der as one of the best. As for Itagaki he likes what the ps3 has to offer, if he didnt he wouldnt have brang ninja gaiden sigma over to the ps3. I think even with the small user base the ps3 has now, when sigma comes out, it will be a success, and look for Itagaki to start creating games for the ps3 aswell as time goes forward.

I hope you're not being serious about John Carmack. Do you know how many games were influenced because of his excellent engine designs? Give me a break. If I rolled my eyes any harder, I'd be staring at my brain. :roll:
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#26 squallff8_fan
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

[QUOTE="ninjiijitsu"]Did John Carmack and Itagaki; really said the ps3 is powerful?musicalmac

John Carmack is just developer that likes to yap all the time, if he would just try an make great games instead of yapping all the time then he would maybe be put up der as one of the best. As for Itagaki he likes what the ps3 has to offer, if he didnt he wouldnt have brang ninja gaiden sigma over to the ps3. I think even with the small user base the ps3 has now, when sigma comes out, it will be a success, and look for Itagaki to start creating games for the ps3 aswell as time goes forward.

I hope you're not being serious about John Carmack. Do you know how many games were influenced because of his excellent engine designs? Give me a break. If I rolled my eyes any harder, I'd be staring at my brain. :roll:

Ok if he is soo great, then why dont other great names such as Kojima or Gran Turismo Developer or Final Fantasy Developer or Insomniac Developer cry about the ps3 being to hard to develope for? This shows right here, that Carmack isnt willing to try an tap in to the true power of the ps3 because clearly it is too complicated for him.

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#27 asmallchild
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

[QUOTE="ninjiijitsu"]Did John Carmack and Itagaki; really said the ps3 is powerful?squallff8_fan

John Carmack is just developer that likes to yap all the time, if he would just try an make great games instead of yapping all the time then he would maybe be put up der as one of the best. As for Itagaki he likes what the ps3 has to offer, if he didnt he wouldnt have brang ninja gaiden sigma over to the ps3. I think even with the small user base the ps3 has now, when sigma comes out, it will be a success, and look for Itagaki to start creating games for the ps3 aswell as time goes forward.

I hope you're not being serious about John Carmack. Do you know how many games were influenced because of his excellent engine designs? Give me a break. If I rolled my eyes any harder, I'd be staring at my brain. :roll:

Ok if he is soo great, then why dont other great names such as Kojima or Gran Turismo Developer or Final Fantasy Developer or Insomniac Developer cry about the ps3 being to hard to develope for? This shows right here, that Carmack isnt willing to try an tap in to the true power of the ps3 because clearly it is too complicated for him.

Good point.
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Outside of the graphics and combat system what do we know about Heveanly Sword?cakeorrdeath
The story is about a Tyrant King who trying to destroy the land.
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#29 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Outside of the graphics and combat system what do we know about Heveanly Sword?shungokustasu
The story is about a Tyrant King who trying to destroy the land.



Is there a fantasy game that isn't?
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

[QUOTE="ninjiijitsu"]Did John Carmack and Itagaki; really said the ps3 is powerful?squallff8_fan

John Carmack is just developer that likes to yap all the time, if he would just try an make great games instead of yapping all the time then he would maybe be put up der as one of the best. As for Itagaki he likes what the ps3 has to offer, if he didnt he wouldnt have brang ninja gaiden sigma over to the ps3. I think even with the small user base the ps3 has now, when sigma comes out, it will be a success, and look for Itagaki to start creating games for the ps3 aswell as time goes forward.

I hope you're not being serious about John Carmack. Do you know how many games were influenced because of his excellent engine designs? Give me a break. If I rolled my eyes any harder, I'd be staring at my brain. :roll:

Ok if he is soo great, then why dont other great names such as Kojima or Gran Turismo Developer or Final Fantasy Developer or Insomniac Developer cry about the ps3 being to hard to develope for? This shows right here, that Carmack isnt willing to try an tap in to the true power of the ps3 because clearly it is too complicated for him.

Garbage. Based on your response you clearly have no idea how much influence he has had in the gaming world. Do you honestly think people as you cited above, that are so close to Sony, would actually knock the hardware? How do you know that they're not thinking it's difficult to develop for? Are you ignoring all the threads that link to articles about the difficulties of PS3 programming? Garbage.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Outside of the graphics and combat system what do we know about Heveanly Sword?cakeorrdeath
The story is about a Tyrant King who trying to destroy the land.



Is there a fantasy game that isn't?

Yes the story sounds cliche, but I'm hoping it has some plot twist.
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#32 topcatyo
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Outside of the graphics and combat system what do we know about Heveanly Sword?shungokustasu
The story is about a Tyrant King who trying to destroy the land.



Is there a fantasy game that isn't?

Yes the story sounds cliche, but I'm hoping it has some plot twist.

The female protagonist is using a sword to kill him, but the sword is going to kill her after a day or something.

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#33 Sir_Graham
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In terms of the overall game I have a feeling Gears will be better. It's a game proven game (GOTY award here and many other awards) from Epic and they have a history of making good games and graphics engine. Heavenly Sword on the other hand looks nice in the promotional videos but it's a game from a developer without a good track record. So I wouldn't bet on it competing with Gears in any area, anything is possible though and we will know when the game has been released.
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#34 akuma303x
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HS is a cutsecene that goes into gameplay right after. ( i think the cutscene is inter active i.e just push x at the right time ) but the pics you took are from a cut scene. you know we all have access to the same thing. and yet you try to pawn it off as gameplay. that alone is a joke. your thread is a joke. and gears of war is already out. why not compare it to ME ? are you scared of the results? cause im tired of sony fans   ( not all but a few ) still using cut scenes, replays, or cgi as gameplay. we all can search this stuff. so next time you attempt to pawn it off as gameplay. make sure we cant just run the vid.
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HS is a cutsecene that goes into gameplay right after. ( i think the cutscene is inter active i.e just push x at the right time ) but the pics you took are from a cut scene. you know we all have access to the same thing. and yet you try to pawn it off as gameplay. that alone is a joke. your thread is a joke. and gears of war is already out. why not compare it to ME ? are you scared of the results? cause im tired of sony fans ( not all but a few ) still using cut scenes, replays, or cgi as gameplay. we all can search this stuff. so next time you attempt to pawn it off as gameplay. make sure we cant just run the vid.akuma303x
Why the text is so big? You can't control pre-render. lol. I think that's like basic computer games 101.
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This is you:

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Why the text is so big? You can't control pre-render. lol. I think that's like basic computer games 101.shungokustasu


You kind of can.

It could be showing a cut scene and if you press the button in time it loads one scene if not it loads a different one. I am not saying that is waht is happening but I reckon it is technichally feesable.
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

Ok if he is soo great, then why dont other great names such as Kojima or Gran Turismo Developer or Final Fantasy Developer or Insomniac Developer cry about the ps3 being to hard to develope for? This shows right here, that Carmack isnt willing to try an tap in to the true power of the ps3 because clearly it is too complicated for him.



Do you even know who John Carmack is? The really hilarious thing is that you even quote Insomniac as being superior as developers, yet they attended his keynote speech on FPS level design and taking advantage of limited hardware.

:lol:

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*sigh* how about getting equally resolution pics first then doing a comparison....
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Why the text is so big? You can't control pre-render. lol. I think that's like basic computer games 101.cakeorrdeath


You kind of can.

It could be showing a cut scene and if you press the button in time it loads one scene if not it loads a different one. I am not saying that is waht is happening but I reckon it is technichally feesable.

that is exactly what is goin on. watch the video of the pics he posted. it clearly shows a push " x " now method to the cutscene. and at the end of it it clearly shows it switch into gameplay. just watch the video. why is this even a debate? it is clearly in the vid.
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#41 shungokustasu
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TC, I agree with you. Heavenly Sword does look better than GeoW. A lot will say it's not gameplay, it's CGI. The developers themselves said it was in-game. Lemmings don't want the benchmark that's call GeoW to be replace so quickly. If they think GeoW is still the best let them. Your opinion is just as valid as theirs. HS > GeoW.
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#42 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Why the text is so big? You can't control pre-render. lol. I think that's like basic computer games 101.cakeorrdeath


You kind of can.

It could be showing a cut scene and if you press the button in time it loads one scene if not it loads a different one. I am not saying that is waht is happening but I reckon it is technichally feesable.

Seriously Cake. Let's have a good discussion.
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lol !:lol: yeah that's pretty much how this thread is.
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#44 acviper123
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I hate when people take the worst pics of one game and post the best of another. I just saw someone do this earlier... but it was comparing Heavenly Sword with Super Mario Galaxy.
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#45 akuma303x
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TC, I agree with you. Heavenly Sword does look better than GeoW. A lot will say it's not gameplay, it's CGI. The developers themselves said it was in-game. Lemmings don't want the benchmark that's call GeoW to be replace so quickly. If they think GeoW is still the best let them. Your opinion is just as valid as theirs. HS > GeoW.shungokustasu
cutscene is not cgi. i stated cutscene. you are trying to say things that have never happened. and it is sad.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Seriously Cake. Let's have a good discussion.



System wars is free of them at the moment. I shall attemp to create controversy somewhere.
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#47 topcatyo
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I think this thread should've never been created.

Or, if it was, it should've had fair pics and should've waited until HS is done.

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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Why the text is so big? You can't control pre-render. lol. I think that's like basic computer games 101.akuma303x


You kind of can.

It could be showing a cut scene and if you press the button in time it loads one scene if not it loads a different one. I am not saying that is waht is happening but I reckon it is technichally feesable.

that is exactly what is goin on. watch the video of the pics he posted. it clearly shows a push " x " now method to the cutscene. and at the end of it it clearly shows it switch into gameplay. just watch the video. why is this even a debate? it is clearly in the vid.

Watch the video again. Did the video in pause while it was displaying the X button? The pause will show that it's waiting for your next input.
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#49 CR00K
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Gears = gameplay. HS = clearly not gameplay. If you cant do a fair comparison, dont bother making a thread.Ninja-Vox
  Just because they're not showing a HUD doesn't mean it's not gameplay....When will people learn that devs can take out the HUD to make the game look more cinematic.  Seems like I go through this everyday.

Example:  Fight Night Round 3.

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#50 akuma303x
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Why the text is so big? You can't control pre-render. lol. I think that's like basic computer games 101.shungokustasu


You kind of can.

It could be showing a cut scene and if you press the button in time it loads one scene if not it loads a different one. I am not saying that is waht is happening but I reckon it is technichally feesable.

Seriously Cake. Let's have a good discussion.

im guessing you have not seen the vid. cause your looking real befuddled right now.