Helldivers assemble... We need to talk.

I'm a Helldiver. True and blue. I think Arrowhead makes some of the best games around and I followed helldivers development from way back in the day. Couldn't wait for it. it delivered on every level it's even better today with a community still diving.

But what are your thoughts on Helldivers 2? I don't want to be pessimistic, but diminishing returns are so strong on fps and tps games that as soon as I saw the perspective shift from the freshness of top down, live action strategizing to third person I kind of cringe... I mean, must we?

It feels, at least to me that helldivers 2 is a similar game to the first with a perspective shift. Why was this necessary and does it reduce or increase your excitement for the game?

I love parity and while top down shooters are not a new thing Helldivers presented a frenetic collaboration strategy experience that not many games capture effectively. Does the new perspective threaten great gameplay? And does it just feel less appealing knowing youre doing the third person shooter stuff again? It kind of does for me.

I think one thing is for certain, it will be better to play on a TV than on a portable like the Steam Deck.

Never played Helldivers but I take it the change in perspective is to catter to a bigger audience. Top down was the choice when the game was kinda indie and had a low budget but now it seems they got a bigger budget green light from Sony and thats why they're trying third person. We'll see how it ends up

Debatable. 😁 Also, TV.... Ew.

Why i'm thinking that levels in Helldivers 2 looks better than in Starfield. LOL

Speaking of which I think the aspect ratio makes Helldivers a great fit for Steam Deck.

Reminds me of Dead Nation on Vita.

As for the newer entry of Helldivers, I think I want to see that in ultrawide more than anything ^^

Do you dive? Helldivers on steam deck is like peanut butter and chocolate.

For real!! lol :P

:|

Helldivers 1 was so much fun that I’m pretty sure 2 is just going to be fine

This isn’t like starfield and Redfall were the devs over promise and fail to deliver

@SecretPolice said:

For real!! lol :P

I'm loving starfield but the graphics looks out dated for next gen title only. just saying

Thought it was lame when I saw it. I love top down shooters, I want more of them.

Thought it was lame when Housemarque did it, think it's lame these guys are doing it.

It wasn't necessary, but it might make the game sell more.

Yes, it does reduce my excitement for the game. Since I don't see how Helldivers would be better in third person, I instead worry it will be worse.

Maybe. Top down and third person shooters are different. If you're good at making one, it doesn't have to mean you're good at the other. And yes.

I'm still interested in the game and I hope it's good. Can never get enough good MP shooters really.

@gifford38 said:

@SecretPolice said:

For real!! lol :P

I'm loving starfield but the graphics looks out dated for next gen title only. just saying

You just need a SuperMighty XSX MonsterBox.

Looks next, next gen. lol :P

Oh man... I thoroughly loved Magika 1 and 2 on PC and the Gauntlet reboot was super fun. Helldivers is still fantastic. Theyre brand of gameplay with friendly fire and strategizing among players is top tier.

Aww... poor widduw guy. Starfield envy got you down?

@TheEroica: To me the game feels almost TOO similar to Helldivers 1. It almost looks like the same game but with a different perspective.

Which is fine, I really liked the first one, hopefully there are some unique strategies with the new perspective. Along with weapons, worlds, and enemies.

Anyway it already looks like a better MP experience than what has been released this year haha

Nope. Glad that game got low ( deserved) scores recently

They took it from an amazing game with a perspective which made it stand out, to a game which basically looks like 75% of the 3rd person shooter games on the market. I am sure it will be fun though, the first game was a blast to play.

I much prefer the top down perspective, but if people aren't buying, I guess you gotta change something. My bigger problem is always having the sun in your eyes. Who the **** likes this? Is it fun being blinded when you're trying to shoot aliens? Tons of games do it, and I absolutely hate it.

I couldn't quite tell from the trailer, but did the bigger bugs have weak points to target? I was more games allowed for you to hammer specific locations or body parts, so you can blow off limbs or weapons. Too frequently are they just bullet sponges until a meter depletes.

@loudheadphones: Sure. Cows with green monsters on their shoulders say it "deserves" a low score.

You're pathetic.

@dabear: Sorry, but i think you're pathetic, dabear. If you're not seeing how much superior Helldivers2 is compared to Starfield, you lost it, bro.

@hardwenzen: Starfield is better than any exclusive on the PS5.

Are you seriously telling me that a loading screen simulator that got a 7/10 is better than the likes of Demon's Remake? Are you out of your mind?

@hardwenzen: I stand by my comment.

Yet again, your comment proves you've never played it.

Sad.

I have played it. Played it in 2006, actually, it was called Oblivion. You think Bethesda games have changed since then? When you have no argument, you always run back to your "you haven't played, so you must not know what you're talking about" lol. I have almost 400h in Fallout 4 alone. You gonna pretend like Starfield gameplay loop is sooooo different? Yea, its worse. It ain't random that it got a 7/10. So stop lying to me, dabear, i am truly sick n tired of your lies.

@hardwenzen: It's better than all other Bethesda games.

It's epic.

Keep up that copium.

Housemarque was able to translate its top down bullet hell expertise into 3rd person with the incredible returnal and I am sure arrowhead can learn something from Housemarque.

That said I am surprised arrowhead still a private company didnt know sony still keep around these close 2nd party studios I thought they bought em all.

Damn! Sony fannies are seeing Starfield in everything.😂

You're lying to yourself. For its time, Fallout 3 was much much much better. Oblivion, for 2006 standards was incredible. I assume that Morrowind was as impressive to those who've played it when it was first released. Starfield is equal to Fallout 4. Same trash story and incredibly poor writing.

@hardwenzen: Really? Whats it about?

Up for a game of 20 questions about the main story and faction quests?

Really? You want me to spoil the story? Cuz i do know the story, unfortunately, and its trash. Now, that's no big deal since i always considered side content to be more important in a open world game, but guess what? Side content is as bad. In fact, there is no npc in this game that has interesting dialogue. Its literally THE game to skip all dialogue, which reminds me of a game we both played, and that game is Diablo 4, another title with an awful story.

@hardwenzen: Send me a private message with the plot.

Won't bother, but its VERY similar to NMS story.

No need to try me, i know what i am talking about lol. If you believe that i am just talking about the likes of Infinite and Starfield without being in-the-know, you gotta at least try to understand that not everyone is clueless with games they haven't played. If i were to play the game tomorrow, i guarantee you that my opinion about the game won't change a single bit. I will enjoy exploring, just like i did in Fallout 4, while everything else being shit. Mods will improve it all, but since you're on consoles, you're stuck with the worst version imaginable.

@hardwenzen: That's like saying "Saving Private Ryan" and "Kelky's Heroes" are basically the same movie because they take place during WW2.

You make yourself sound foolish by criticizing games you know nothing about.

You're trying too hard to defend something that is not worth defending. I know of the story since the first couple of days. Usually never spoil the story of a game i intend to play, but because Bethesda is really dogwater at writing, there's nothing to see here.

Why are y'all talking about the 7 flop Starfield in a Helldiver's thread?

Starfield will infiltrate every thread for the next few months.

This.... There's a Starfield thread. Never seen more people obsessed with a game (and not getting to play a game) in my life. Let it go.

Control your faction.😎

Helldivers 1 was an incredible game; I played it 4 player co-op many times (I didn't bother with online, not the same magic). I think it's a huge shame that Helldivers 2 is a TPS, and yet I still think it looks like it has a sense of style and will hopefully be pretty good. I think the genre change is a pure negative though; we're much worse off for not having something in the style of the first game. It's pretty ironic that changing genres is less innovative and fresh since it's pivoting into a genre that is saturated.

I played Helldivers 1 for a little while. It was tough to play by myself and didn't have to many friends to play it with. Helldivers 2 looks like fun though. And I'll be getting it day 1. I'm a suckered for pve co op games

Gonna suck on console: gotta buy the game, gotta pay for PSN. **** that noise.

@hardwenzen: Starfield is spectacular.

I am not swayed by your hater videos. In fact, I really don't think you are, either. You're just using them to cope with the fact that Starfield is not on PS5.

so, keep snorting that copium, keep piling on that salt - I'll be over here enjoying one of the best games of this generation.

That's coping. You don't want to accept reality because it looks bad, so you pretend like the situation is "spectacular". This is just sad.

@uitravioience: Starfield, the game that is better than everything on PS5, can end up dominating every thread.

@dabear: delusional

Couldn't have said it better. He has been so delusional since the 7/10 that i almost want to study him as a speciment. Truly is remarkable what happens to a human brain when you're being bombarded by EXCLUSIVE DISAPPOINTMENTS one generation after the other.

@uitravioience: Keep coping.

All you've got are you're "one and done" GoW, Spoder-Man, and Horizon. Between mods, DLC, and a brilliant new+, I can enjoy Starfield for more hours than those three games combined.

The only viable condenders to Starfield this gen are Elden Ring and Baldurs Gate III - both of which are (Or soon will be) also on Xbox.

@hardwenzen: Keep coping.

You are like a real life Gollum; except instead of a love-hate relationship with a ring, it's Xbox. You should just let go and get one. Then, you can enjoy the greatness of both Stanfield and Halo.