Hellgate - Dead Before Arrival.

The game has a FREE multiplayer. You only need to pay to get additional options. Such as the ability to create guilds and to be an officer in a guild.

Let me make it clear. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY ONLINE, AT ALL. YOU ONLY HAVE TO PLAY IF YOU WANT UNNECESARY EXTRAS. 

Hellgate - this was THE game everyone was waiting for. Now, it is announced you have to pay $9.95 a month to get the multiplayer aspect of it. I can only hope the offline mode allows you to experience ALL the content. Where as the online mode, you have to pay to get the good gear, guilds, housing, etc. etc. At this point, I would like to thank all the brainless gamers who bought into "microtransactions" - you've contributed to a dark future for gaming. So, since you are OK with being nickel and dimed to death with video game content; eat it.Demetri_OS

Very funny. There's a free online mode which offers many of the features of the paying subscritption and even allows you to interact with paying players.

/thread. you phail 

The game has a FREE multiplayer. You only need to pay to get additional options. Such as the ability to create guilds and to be an officer in a guild.

Let me make it clear. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY ONLINE, AT ALL. YOU ONLY HAVE TO PLAY IF YOU WANT UNNECESARY EXTRAS. 

Peter_Darkstar

Please inform yourself before talking:

http://www.hellgateguru.com/2007/05/elite-subscriptions-995-a-month-and-other-details/ 

[QUOTE="Peter_Darkstar"]

The game has a FREE multiplayer. You only need to pay to get additional options. Such as the ability to create guilds and to be an officer in a guild.

Let me make it clear. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY ONLINE, AT ALL. YOU ONLY HAVE TO PLAY IF YOU WANT UNNECESARY EXTRAS.

darklord888

uhh why should you have to pay for BF2/ BF 2142 people host the servers.  

It's so lame, it's not even a full fledged MMORPG so they charge $10.. Well guess what, before WoW came out MMORPG's were $10 a month.MTBare

Try 12.95 a month.

The game has a FREE multiplayer. You only need to pay to get additional options. Such as the ability to create guilds and to be an officer in a guild.

Let me make it clear. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY ONLINE, AT ALL. YOU ONLY HAVE TO PLAY IF YOU WANT UNNECESARY EXTRAS.

Peter_Darkstar

Thanks for clearing that up.  I should pick this game up when it luanches now. 

[QUOTE="Peter_Darkstar"]

The game has a FREE multiplayer. You only need to pay to get additional options. Such as the ability to create guilds and to be an officer in a guild.

Let me make it clear. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY ONLINE, AT ALL. YOU ONLY HAVE TO PLAY IF YOU WANT UNNECESARY EXTRAS.

darklord888

Xbox Live is powered by your Live subscription.

PC games are hosted on the host's computers for free. (unless in rare cases you use the dev's servers)

PSN will not be able to host servers for more then 2-3 years before they start losing money. Expect online games to cut service in a few years.

Paying for Hellgate is so they can develop new content. Like it said, there will be a new content patch every single month, with a large content patch every 3 months. It's going to be MMO type content. The game will consistently get new areas, monsters, etc. Since developing and paying salaries for all the workers isn't free, they are going to charge.

And like he said, it's entirely free online. You just don't get to have the newer areas that the monthly fee helped make. 

[QUOTE="MTBare"]It's so lame, it's not even a full fledged MMORPG so they charge $10.. Well guess what, before WoW came out MMORPG's were $10 a month.RossRichard

Try 12.95 a month.

Well I remember DAOC was $10 a month for 3 months.. Then it raised and I said quit. Still, IMO hellgate shouldn't have a monthly fee at all and just release new content in expansions.

[QUOTE="RossRichard"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]It's so lame, it's not even a full fledged MMORPG so they charge $10.. Well guess what, before WoW came out MMORPG's were $10 a month.MTBare

Try 12.95 a month.

Well I remember DAOC was $10 a month for 3 months.. Then it raised and I said quit. Still, IMO hellgate shouldn't have a monthly fee at all and just release new content in expansions.

I have a problem though. Most of the stuff they are charging for is quality control, customer service, and inalienable functions almost any online RPG should have. Its milkage.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I have a problem though. Most of the stuff they are charging for is quality control, customer service, and inalienable functions almost any online RPG should have. Its milkage.Makari

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="RossRichard"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]It's so lame, it's not even a full fledged MMORPG so they charge $10.. Well guess what, before WoW came out MMORPG's were $10 a month.Makari

Try 12.95 a month.

Well I remember DAOC was $10 a month for 3 months.. Then it raised and I said quit. Still, IMO hellgate shouldn't have a monthly fee at all and just release new content in expansions.

Yes I realize there is a free portion, but it's lame that those who don't want to pay $10 a month for one game gets the sh**** service. Everything multiplayer should be free, to keep it even. 98% of the multiplayer features? You think they're going to keep a lot of people paying $10 a month for just tiny updates?

It could have been a lot worse I guess...

Their really doing something similar to guild wars, where they have Major paid updates every few months.... 

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="RossRichard"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]It's so lame, it's not even a full fledged MMORPG so they charge $10.. Well guess what, before WoW came out MMORPG's were $10 a month.MTBare

Try 12.95 a month.

Well I remember DAOC was $10 a month for 3 months.. Then it raised and I said quit. Still, IMO hellgate shouldn't have a monthly fee at all and just release new content in expansions.

Yes I realize there is a free portion, but it's lame that those who don't want to pay $10 a month for one game gets the sh**** service. Everything multiplayer should be free, to keep it even. 98% of the multiplayer features? You think they're going to keep a lot of people paying $10 a month for just tiny updates?

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I have a problem though. Most of the stuff they are charging for is quality control, customer service, and inalienable functions almost any online RPG should have. Its milkage.Vandalvideo

And thats exactly what you get:

http://www.hellgateguru.com/2007/05/elite-subscriptions-995-a-month-and-other-details/ 

Customer service support over the internet on regular business hours. Paid members get 24/7 support. Theres no implication that the free one is any worse - just that the paid one can be accesed at all time. Very, very few games over 24/7 support for a non-subscription based model. Isnt that "standard business practice" for these kinds of things?

short answer - yeah. they don't need very many people willing to pay that much to get a good source of income going. the thing i'm arguing with you about on the customer service thing is that right now, EVERY game with free multiplayer out there gives us this 'sh*** service' you speak of. seriously, have you ever tried dealing with CS for d2? wc3? battlefield? paid games like EVE or WoW are better, and i actually have never heard anything about GW, but i have a feeling they're the exception to the rule.Makari

I wasn't talking about customer service as I usually don't care about that, I was referring more to things like server ques.. "Service" talking more about elite vs non elite things, not just customer service. 

[QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="MTBare"][QUOTE="RossRichard"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]It's so lame, it's not even a full fledged MMORPG so they charge $10.. Well guess what, before WoW came out MMORPG's were $10 a month.Makari

Try 12.95 a month.

Well I remember DAOC was $10 a month for 3 months.. Then it raised and I said quit. Still, IMO hellgate shouldn't have a monthly fee at all and just release new content in expansions.

Yes I realize there is a free portion, but it's lame that those who don't want to pay $10 a month for one game gets the sh**** service. Everything multiplayer should be free, to keep it even. 98% of the multiplayer features? You think they're going to keep a lot of people paying $10 a month for just tiny updates?

GW has a very different system....No monthly fees, but instead they have very large expansion packs every few months. 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I have a problem though. Most of the stuff they are charging for is quality control, customer service, and inalienable functions almost any online RPG should have. Its milkage.XaosII

And thats exactly what you get:

http://www.hellgateguru.com/2007/05/elite-subscriptions-995-a-month-and-other-details/ 

Customer service support over the internet on regular business hours. Paid members get 24/7 support. Theres no implication that the free one is any worse - just that the paid one can be accesed at all time. Very, very few games over 24/7 support for a non-subscription based model. Isnt that "standard business practice" for these kinds of things?

[QUOTE="Makari"] short answer - yeah. they don't need very many people willing to pay that much to get a good source of income going. the thing i'm arguing with you about on the customer service thing is that right now, EVERY game with free multiplayer out there gives us this 'sh*** service' you speak of. seriously, have you ever tried dealing with CS for d2? wc3? battlefield? paid games like EVE or WoW are better, and i actually have never heard anything about GW, but i have a feeling they're the exception to the rule.MTBare

I wasn't talking about customer service as I usually don't care about that, I was referring more to things like server ques.. "Service" talking more about elite vs non elite things, not just customer service.

Hellgate - this was THE game everyone was waiting for. Now, it is announced you have to pay $9.95 a month to get the multiplayer aspect of it. I can only hope the offline mode allows you to experience ALL the content. Where as the online mode, you have to pay to get the good gear, guilds, housing, etc. etc. At this point, I would like to thank all the brainless gamers who bought into "microtransactions" - you've contributed to a dark future for gaming. So, since you are OK with being nickel and dimed to death with video game content; eat it.Demetri_OS

Don't misinform people please. There is the free online and the subscription online. People who pay $9.95 will get extra features. 

Their really doing something similar to guild wars, where they have Major paid updates every few months....

cobrax75

Guild Wars doesn't really have 'paid updates' (I'm assuming that you mean that we have to pay for them) - all updates in GW are free (of course!), but they did release a stand-alone, entirely new game every six months, that interlinked with any other GW that you own.

It depends if the game play justifies the fees.

Nonetheless, its charging what other games offer for free, I have to pay over wise I get a half arsed online system. Thats what it seems.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]Hellgate - this was THE game everyone was waiting for. Now, it is announced you have to pay $9.95 a month to get the multiplayer aspect of it. I can only hope the offline mode allows you to experience ALL the content. Where as the online mode, you have to pay to get the good gear, guilds, housing, etc. etc. At this point, I would like to thank all the brainless gamers who bought into "microtransactions" - you've contributed to a dark future for gaming. So, since you are OK with being nickel and dimed to death with video game content; eat it.dgsag

Very funny. There's a free online mode which offers many of the features of the paying subscritption and even allows you to interact with paying players.

/thread. you phail

Yup, exactly like Windows Live. It's all gotten blown out of proportion. You can play online for free with both Windows Live and in Hellgate.