HERE IS THE SONY NPD SPIN Here

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#1 flashattackfina
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HERE IS THE SONY SPINHere come the spinsters...

PlayStation by the Numbers

November 2007

The PlayStation® platform is off to a great start this holiday season based on NPD November 2007 sales data:

Hardware Momentum (PS3, PS2 and PSP)

**For the month of November, PlayStation hardware unit sales reached more than 1.5 million units, an increase of 160% when compared to last month's unit sales (October 2007).

**PlayStation total hardware revenue was $373 million in November, sales dollars increased by 170% compared to last month's sales.

**For the month of November, PlayStation console sales reached 962K units.

**466K PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3TM) hardware units were sold in November, a 285% increase over the previous month's sales. PS3 had the biggest October to November sales increase of any hardware platform.

**PlayStation®2 (PS2) also experienced great momentum in November, hardware unit sales reached 496K, a 170% increase over last month's sales. Since its release in North America on Oct. 26, 2000, more than 120 million hardware units and more

than a billion units of PlayStation 2 software have sold worldwide, making it the best-selling gaming platform ever released.
* *According to the latest Nielsen data (April - November 2007), PS2 is the most played videogame console averaging 42.2% usage minutes compared to 11.8% for Xbox 360 and 5.5% for Wii.

**PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) continues to experience strong sales momentum with new pricing and the availability of new entertainment packs. In November, 567K PSP hardware units were sold, nearly a 100% increase over last month sales.

Software Momentum (PS3, PS2 and PSP)

**PlayStation total software revenue in November was $414 million, sales dollars increased by 128% compared to last month's sales.

**In November, retail dollars from PS3 sales totaled $138 million, a 192% increase over last month's sales.

**PlayStation had three software titles in the top ten list across all consoles: Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock for PS2 sold 966K units, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare for PS3 sold 444K units and Assassin's Creed for PS3 sold 377K units.

PLAYSTATION®Network Momentum

**Just one year after launch, there are more than 3 million registered PLAYSTATION Network users worldwide who have downloaded more than 60 million pieces of content.

**In North America alone there are more than 1.8 million registered users who have downloaded more than 34.5 million pieces of content.

**A recent PLAYSTATION Network price promotion for Calling all CarsTM, Everyday ShooterTM, flOwTM and Pixel Junk RacersTM resulted in a combined 920% increase in total downloads.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216719&page=13

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#2 flashattackfina
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come on everyone read it
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#3 NWA_31
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Who cares ? NPD is whack...
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#4 KillaHalo2o9
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Sony and their talks. :?
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#5 Zenfoldor
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Wow, spin masters.
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#6 madvalocity5
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well... its all true...

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#7 mjarantilla
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**466K PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3TM) hardware units were sold in November, a 285% increase over the previous month's sales. PS3 had the biggest October to November sales increase of any hardware platform.flashattackfina

:lol:

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#8 Claw17k
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xbots had their turn. now its ours.
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#9 DaddyLongCaddy
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I don't see the spin. All of it's true.
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#10 books83
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]**466K PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3TM) hardware units were sold in November, a 285% increase over the previous month's sales. PS3 had the biggest October to November sales increase of any hardware platform.mjarantilla

:lol:

Well its true. Expecially considering how poorly they have been doing and the price cut helped going into the holiday season.

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#11 EmperorSupreme
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I don't see the spin. All of it's true.DaddyLongCaddy

Exactly, not like Microsoft claiming 2:1 sales before the numbers came out. That's what you call spin.

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#12 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="DaddyLongCaddy"]I don't see the spin. All of it's true.EmperorSupreme

Exactly, not like Microsoft claiming 2:1 sales before the numbers came out. That's what you call spin.

Are you two serious?

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#13 ReverseCycology
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All read was alot of moo moo moo.

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#14 Claw17k
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All read was alot of moo moo moo.

ReverseCycology

you must have read it wrong then because it clearly said *UP YOURS LEMS*

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#15 Pro_wrestler
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This is like when the remedial kid in the class gets the reward for most improved yet it still pales in comparison to the kid that got straight A's.
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#16 100Gamer
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all sony does is talk :lol:
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#17 -platy-
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all i need to know is 770k > 460 K
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#18 pins_basic
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They should have just said "PS3 sales are up by over 100% (or what ever % it is) compared to October, not even theWii was able to do that". :lol: I should do this for a living.
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People on this forum say Sony will go bankrupt when it's obviously not true. That's why this is relevant. If anything, Microsoft is since they have to pay for the trillions of units that break due to the hardware faults.
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#20 Popadophalis
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]**466K PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3TM) hardware units were sold in November, a 285% increase over the previous month's sales. PS3 had the biggest October to November sales increase of any hardware platform.mjarantilla

:lol:

Yea I had a good laught at that one too

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I don't see the spin. All of it's true.DaddyLongCaddy

I don't think you understand what spin is. Here is the definitions from wiki:

"In public relations, spin is a usually pejorative term signifying a heavily biased portrayal in one's own favor of an event or situation. While traditional public relations may also rely on creative presentation of the facts, "spin" often, though not always, implies disingenuous, deceptive and/or highly manipulative tactics. Politicians are often accused of spin by their political opponents."

Spin is the process of presenting the facts in such a way that it favors one's own position/situation.

For example,when there is a tax cutthat takesaway money from California's education system, it can be said that politicians don't care about the children's education or it could be said that they've saved tax payers money.

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#22 DarthKalo
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People on this forum say Sony will go bankrupt when it's obviously not true. That's why this is relevant. If anything, Microsoft is since they have to pay for the trillions of units that break due to the hardware faults.mrxdemix
you mean MS the highest grossing company in the world? They make atleast 10x what Sony makes on a daily basis!
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#23 MrSickVisionz
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#24 pins_basic
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]**466K PLAYSTATION®3 (PS3TM) hardware units were sold in November, a 285% increase over the previous month's sales. PS3 had the biggest October to November sales increase of any hardware platform.mjarantilla

:lol:

OMG :lol: I didn't even bother reading it and posted what they should have said and that is pretty mcuh what they said. :lol:
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#25 DaddyLongCaddy
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[QUOTE="DaddyLongCaddy"]I don't see the spin. All of it's true.slick_gio

I don't think you understand what spin is. Here is the definitions from wiki:

"In public relations, spin is a usually pejorative term signifying a heavily biased portrayal in one's own favor of an event or situation. While traditional public relations may also rely on creative presentation of the facts, "spin" often, though not always, implies disingenuous, deceptive and/or highly manipulative tactics. Politicians are often accused of spin by their political opponents."

Spin is the process of presenting the facts in such a way that it favors one's own position/situation.

For example,when there is a tax cutthat takesaway money from California's education system, it can be said that politicians don't care about the children's education or it could be said that they've saved tax payers money.

I could agree if they mentioned anything about Nintendo or Microsoft. But they were just comparing their sales of last month to this month. Althought the use of percentages does seem pretty laughable.

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#26 lowe0
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[QUOTE="DaddyLongCaddy"]I don't see the spin. All of it's true.EmperorSupreme

Exactly, not like Microsoft claiming 2:1 sales before the numbers came out. That's what you call spin.

That was for Black Friday week. MS showed their numbers, Sony didn't. I wonder why?
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

All read was alot of moo moo moo.

Claw17k

you must have read it wrong then because it clearly said *UP YOURS LEMS*

Yes, because when you are behind the only place you can look is up.....

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#28 AdmiralDan
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People on this forum say Sony will go bankrupt when it's obviously not true. That's why this is relevant. If anything, Microsoft is since they have to pay for the trillions of units that break due to the hardware faults.mrxdemix

Trillions, huh? Let's see, there are 6 billion people onEarth so... each person on the planet would have to own 150+ 360's and have them all break just to reach one trillion. You may have meant 1 billion $ for the warranty extension. If you mean that then OK. Talk about hyperboles by cows.

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* *According to the latest Nielsen data (April - November 2007), PS2 is the most played videogame console averaging 42.2% usage minutes compared to 11.8% for Xbox 360 and 5.5% for Wii.flashattackfina

Wow, just wow. No mentioning about that the PS3 being dead last in that survey :lol:

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#30 Erkidu
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well... its all true...

madvalocity5
Yes, that's why it's called "spin" and not "a lie". :| To the topic: The DS outsold every piece of Sony hardware COMBINED. /spin :P
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[QUOTE="slick_gio"]

[QUOTE="DaddyLongCaddy"]I don't see the spin. All of it's true.DaddyLongCaddy

I don't think you understand what spin is. Here is the definitions from wiki:

"In public relations, spin is a usually pejorative term signifying a heavily biased portrayal in one's own favor of an event or situation. While traditional public relations may also rely on creative presentation of the facts, "spin" often, though not always, implies disingenuous, deceptive and/or highly manipulative tactics. Politicians are often accused of spin by their political opponents."

Spin is the process of presenting the facts in such a way that it favors one's own position/situation.

For example,when there is a tax cutthat takesaway money from California's education system, it can be said that politicians don't care about the children's education or it could be said that they've saved tax payers money.

I could agree if they mentioned anything about Nintendo or Microsoft. But they were just comparing their sales of last month to this month. Althought the use of percentages does seem pretty laughable.

Exactly. They are spinning the facts because they can ONLY compare the numbers to their own products. If they compare their numbers to Microsoft or Nintendo then they wouldn't come up with good news.

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#32 cod4ownzzz
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all i need to know is 770k > 460 K-platy-

You have to bear in mind that sales between 16-30 November of the 360 are replacements for 1-15 November, LOL!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="-platy-"]all i need to know is 770k > 460 Kcod4ownzzz

You have to bear in mind that sales between 16-30 November of the 360 are replacements for 1-15 November, LOL!!!!!!!!

cept you know, NPD doesn't track those.

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#34 -platy-
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[QUOTE="-platy-"]all i need to know is 770k > 460 Kcod4ownzzz

You have to bear in mind that sales between 16-30 November of the 360 are replacements for 1-15 November, LOL!!!!!!!!

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#35 kentaro22
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So MS sells around 300k more units than the PS3 in November in USA. How much does the PS3 outsold the X360 in Europe and Japan? I bet It might even be more than 300k units, so I don't know why so many lemmings are happy hearing Nov NPD.
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#36 Video_Game_King
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Just when you though Fox News was the King of the Spin....
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#37 PS3_3DO
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Sit and Spin, Sony! :lol:

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#38 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

All read was alot of moo moo moo.

Claw17k

you must have read it wrong then because it clearly said *UP YOURS LEMS*

Actually what was said was, "We are still dead last, but hey its a start!!!"

Game On....

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#39 FatalDomain
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[QUOTE="-platy-"]all i need to know is 770k > 460 Kcod4ownzzz

You have to bear in mind that sales between 16-30 November of the 360 are replacements for 1-15 November, LOL!!!!!!!!

Nice, so I guess the 200 mil + PS1/PS2 owners are all individual gamers who never replaced their consoles due to hardware issues....The Sony spin is strong with this one!

Game On...

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#40 Teh_Bob
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xbots had their turn. now its ours.Claw17k
I don't see the spin. All of it's true.DaddyLongCaddy

[QUOTE="DaddyLongCaddy"]I don't see the spin. All of it's true.EmperorSupreme

Exactly, not like Microsoft claiming 2:1 sales before the numbers came out. That's what you call spin.

lmfao Damage control in full swing!!! Man that price cut really helped whip the Wii and 360 this month! :lol:
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#41 mattyomo99
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well its not really a spin because its all true, buttt im interested in how the PS3 sold in the rest of the world
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[QUOTE="mrxdemix"]People on this forum say Sony will go bankrupt when it's obviously not true. That's why this is relevant. If anything, Microsoft is since they have to pay for the trillions of units that break due to the hardware faults.AdmiralDan

Trillions, huh? Let's see, there are 6 billion people onEarth so... each person on the planet would have to own 150+ 360's and have them all break just to reach one trillion. You may have meant 1 billion $ for the warranty extension. If you mean that then OK. Talk about hyperboles by cows.

Heh, even if all 360's break its not going to cost MS half the federal budget.

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#43 user_nat
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So basicly:

"We had a price cut and it was the holidays and we managed to sell more hardware then last months super low performance!! GO SONY!"

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#44 LosDaddie
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Poor Sony.

They know their dominance is at an end.:lol:

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#45 Sparky04
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This is like when the remedial kid in the class gets the reward for most improved yet it still pales in comparison to the kid that got straight A's. Pro_wrestler

Not that extreme, but that is the idea.

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#46 RIZDRAVER
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The spin is always the same:

Sales increased 165% from last month.

In other words, last month we really really sucked. But this month we only really suck. And that jump was the largest of any console.....so we win????

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#47 bvinton45
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The numbers are not lies, but the bulk of the numbers are coming from the PS2. While this is good now for Sony. The problem is that the PS2 is a console that will be slowing down in the coming years. 5 years from now, if the PS3 does not pick up it won't be posting those overall consolenumbers.

More importantly from the NPD numbers they are not moving software. So developers will be using the 360 for the their main platform, porting over to the PS3. This generally effects the quality of the game. Long term this is not great news for Sony.

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#48 TurninTricks
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come on everyone read itflashattackfina

Wow someone needs attention. Mommy messed you up kiddo

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#49 RIZDRAVER
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I think Jason Booth is probably right. The PS3 is going to be plagued with horrible ports from the 360 for most if not all of its lifespan. And there are going to be fewer and fewer big budget exclusives for the platform. Not good news.