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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Yes, the Kinect was a commercial success for Microsoft, but let's be honest, it kind of fails when it comes to offering many compelling games. The Kinect fails mostly at being an alternate scheme like Microsoft is hell bent on pushing it, and yet there are some things it is excellent for.

Parties. The Kinect is great for parties. A game like Dance Central gets everybody involved. Everybody is playing, everybody grooving along. And therein lies the Kinect's strength- in party games. Dance Central is just one example (Kinect Sports and Kinet Adventures are sleeper party hits too).

Whereas the Kinect can never beat the Wii as the go to party system, the fact that it literally involves nothing but a buzzed person to get up and groove to pop music is what makes it so popular.

The Kinect succeeds at prividing (a limited number of) casual game experiences. As far as gaming is concerned, that is what it is good for. Not worth the initial $150 investment at all, I am sure, especially since the technology itself requires some polish, but hey, if you do have it, know that, contrary to what System Wars would have you believe, it isn't completely useless. It has a place, a niche in the gaming ecosystem, and it fills that niche pretty well.

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#2 Blabadon
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Bad time to post logical statements Char. I'll wait for the eventual "nothing at all" posts.
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Didn't read because I don't want to read about a gimmick.

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#4 Eddie-Vedder
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So basically kinect is nothing more then a REALLY REALLY expensive party dance game.

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#5 finalstar2007
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I hope MS focuses on Kinect even more to the point where they'd have no other games but Kinect games. plz MS do it even more!

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So basically kinect is nothing more then a REALLY REALLY expensive party dance game.

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And glorified menu controller.

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#7 Strutten
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Didn't read because I don't want to read about a gimmick.

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no hold in youre comments anyway, so why even bother ? :)

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#8 Michael0134567
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$150 is "really really expensive"?Really?

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#9 themajormayor
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Who seriously plays games on parties unless you're like 11?
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#10 MonsieurX
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Didn't read because I don't want to read about a gimmick.

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But took time to post.
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Char, this is system wars. Where something that is simple fun that can be enjoyed by any kindd of person is evil and "casual trash." come on, you should know better...

That being said I don't see kinect being used at many parties. When it comes to "family" parties with relatives and kids about, I'd imagine they'd already have Wii for party experiences. And for college parties or teen parties I'd imagine most are more focused on getting wasted then playing games. Although in some cases when a host so happens to own a 360 with kinect then maybe they'll use the thing at some point for sh*t's and giggles. While the Kinect WOULD be fun for parties I don't know if many people would actually do so.

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Who seriously plays games on parties unless you're like 11?themajormayor
Some people have friends...go figure
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#13 APiranhaAteMyVa
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It will be interesting to see if the WiiU can regain the crowd that just want WiiSports/just dance/sing star type games. Kinect could take that away from Nintendo as the skill level is even easier than the Wiimote+WiiU controller+balance board. Kinect can do all them things; work out games, dance games, singing games without any need for peripherals.

Not only that with that scan feature they was touting you could scan in weights or a running machine if you have room and it could be like a virtual work out station. The WiiU/Wii is unable to have that level of flexibility for none gamers.

It's not worth $150 for me, but was the Wii worth the money for people who bought it for Wii Sports + the cost of Wii Fit when that launched? if they got use out of Sports/fit then I would say yes. $150 is only expensive if you don't use it.

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parkurtommo

You're completely hilarious.

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It has a number of good party games - but nothing truly great for the single player. I guess they literally want people to "jump in" with it now.
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#17 LP4EVA2005
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thanks for clearing that up for us Captain Obvious
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

Michael0134567

You're completely hilarious.

I know.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Who seriously plays games on parties unless you're like 11?spiderluck
Some people have friends...go figure

I didn't say you can't play games with your friends. But it's kinda weird to play games at a party. Ruins the whole purpose of it. Unless you're 11.
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All what I see so far from Kinect is a glorified microphone. Mass Effect 3 "Better With Kinect", with what? Simple commands that select Shepard's conversations and squad commands, and FIFA 13 substitute players without going to Pause menu, is a start button really that difficult??

And Tom Clancy's End War show us voice command with an ordinary mic, I don't see Kinect is really better than a mic. I want Kinect to succeed, I really do, but all I see right now is some casual games and glorified voice commands.

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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]Who seriously plays games on parties unless you're like 11?themajormayor
Some people have friends...go figure

I didn't say you can't play games with your friends. But it's kinda weird to play games at a party. Ruins the whole purpose of it. Unless you're 11.

After a few drinks or intoxicant of your choice, everbody's 11 man....lol
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It's also a very good overpriced Netflix/Hulu remote.
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="spiderluck"] Some people have friends...go figure

I didn't say you can't play games with your friends. But it's kinda weird to play games at a party. Ruins the whole purpose of it. Unless you're 11.

After a few drinks or intoxicant of your choice, everbody's 11 man....lol

When I've reached that stage I am not capable of playing any games anyway lol
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Here is a Game Informer post highlighting what its good for. Its got some use, a lot of it could be done by a mic of course, but its something and its a good way to move forward. I'd love for voice commands to take off more next gen, but as for motion controls well... eh.

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I agree with you Tc.

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Here is a Game Informer post highlighting what its good for. Its got some use, a lot of it could be done by a mic of course, but its something and its a good way to move forward. I'd love for voice commands to take off more next gen, but as for motion controls well... eh.

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Unless you have true 1 to 1 response ratio, motion control sucks
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Who seriously plays games on parties unless you're like 11?themajormayor

Amazingly enough ours gets used all the time by 16-19 year olds who completely ignore the Move that is sitting right next to it, but whatever.

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I would never consider having people over and being like "Surprise! We're going to dance in front of the TV with Kinect!"
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The Kinect is great for pushing the Xbox to be more than just a gaming console. With motion controls, I find watching movies and stuff like that on the Xbox to be quite an intuitive experience. The Wii's motion controls changed gaming forever, in a positive way, but Kinect seems great as it doesn't confine itself to just effecting gaming, but the technology industry as a whole. Too bad the games kinda suck at this point, but since it's coming in built in the NextBox, I wouldn't see that as such a bad thing, as the Xbox will become my go to media hub for everything.

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I would never consider having people over and being like "Surprise! We're going to dance in front of the TV with Kinect!"BPoole96
Why not? Kinect games are always fun, they provide good family entertainment. What problems do you have with it, and why is it a bad thing if this is how people choose to spend their time?
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]I would never consider having people over and being like "Surprise! We're going to dance in front of the TV with Kinect!"Lupin497
Why not? Kinect games are always fun, they provide good family entertainment. What problems do you have with it, and why is it a bad thing if this is how people choose to spend their time?

Did I ever say I had a problem with other people doing it? I said personally, I would never do it. But I also would never A. own a MS console and B. buy a Kinect. If I want to do something with my friends then we would go out somewhere, not gather round a TV and act like imbeciles.
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I would never consider having people over and being like "Surprise! We're going to dance in front of the TV with Kinect!"BPoole96
Oddly enough you dont even have to say a word ...when people see the kinect they automatically want to see what it's all about...personally to me it won't be a true controller until it hits 1 to 1 response ratio...Hopefully kinect 2.0 will do that but it never ceases to amaze me the way it impacts people who have never seen one, the first time they play it, the damn thing sells itself
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My guess is it is good for taking pictures and transmitting videos over the internet, because it is a webcam.

In all seriousness though, I saw Dance Central 2 being quite funny during a party at a friend's house. The thing is, the only reason people were playing it is because the kids were playing it. Had there been no kids, the game would not have been on, funny or not.

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[QUOTE="Lupin497"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]I would never consider having people over and being like "Surprise! We're going to dance in front of the TV with Kinect!"BPoole96
Why not? Kinect games are always fun, they provide good family entertainment. What problems do you have with it, and why is it a bad thing if this is how people choose to spend their time?

Did I ever say I had a problem with other people doing it? I said personally, I would never do it. But I also would never A. own a MS console and B. buy a Kinect. If I want to do something with my friends then we would go out somewhere, not gather round a TV and act like imbeciles.

Oh no, no, no, no, NO. What? People that like playing Kinect games are imbeciles? Is that what you are really saying? So because I am a man that likes to have some fun with my brother, his wife, and his kids playing Kinect games, that makes me a bad person?
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]I would never consider having people over and being like "Surprise! We're going to dance in front of the TV with Kinect!"spiderluck
Oddly enough you dont even have to say a word ...when people see the kinect they automatically want to see what it's all about...personally to me it won't be a true controller until it hits 1 to 1 response ratio...Hopefully kinect 2.0 will do that but it never ceases to amaze me the way it impacts people who have never seen one, the first time they play it, the damn thing sells itself

Hopefully the next Kinect actually has a purpose to it and is more accurate. As of now Kinect only seems good for dance games, voice recognition, and a menu navigation alternative
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[QUOTE="Lupin497"][QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Lupin497"] Why not? Kinect games are always fun, they provide good family entertainment. What problems do you have with it, and why is it a bad thing if this is how people choose to spend their time?

Did I ever say I had a problem with other people doing it? I said personally, I would never do it. But I also would never A. own a MS console and B. buy a Kinect. If I want to do something with my friends then we would go out somewhere, not gather round a TV and act like imbeciles.

Oh no, no, no, no, NO. What? People that like playing Kinect games are imbeciles? Is that what you are really saying? So because I am a man that likes to have some fun with my brother, his wife, and his kids playing Kinect games, that makes me a bad person?

No bro ...what he's saying is that he is too cool for that,,,he would rather go out "somewhere " where he can be an anonymous " imbecile "
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[QUOTE="Lupin497"][QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Lupin497"] Why not? Kinect games are always fun, they provide good family entertainment. What problems do you have with it, and why is it a bad thing if this is how people choose to spend their time?

Did I ever say I had a problem with other people doing it? I said personally, I would never do it. But I also would never A. own a MS console and B. buy a Kinect. If I want to do something with my friends then we would go out somewhere, not gather round a TV and act like imbeciles.

Oh no, no, no, no, NO. What? People that like playing Kinect games are imbeciles? Is that what you are really saying? So because I am a man that likes to have some fun with my brother, his wife, and his kids playing Kinect games, that makes me a bad person?

Quit putting words in my mouth. People think Kinect is fun at first bc everyone looks goofy as hell while they play it and like to laugh at one another. Once the novelty wears off, you're left with a poorly functioning motion controller with no place in core games. Look what happened to Steel Battalion and Star Wars Kinect when it got the Kinect integration. Kinect is good for nothing aside from what I stated above.
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Lupin497"][QUOTE="BPoole96"] Did I ever say I had a problem with other people doing it? I said personally, I would never do it. But I also would never A. own a MS console and B. buy a Kinect. If I want to do something with my friends then we would go out somewhere, not gather round a TV and act like imbeciles.

Oh no, no, no, no, NO. What? People that like playing Kinect games are imbeciles? Is that what you are really saying? So because I am a man that likes to have some fun with my brother, his wife, and his kids playing Kinect games, that makes me a bad person?

No bro ...what he's saying is that he is too cool for that,,,he would rather go out "somewhere " where he can be an anonymous " imbecile "

Nailed it with the too cool part but you lost me with what followed
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Lupin497"] Oh no, no, no, no, NO. What? People that like playing Kinect games are imbeciles? Is that what you are really saying? So because I am a man that likes to have some fun with my brother, his wife, and his kids playing Kinect games, that makes me a bad person?

No bro ...what he's saying is that he is too cool for that,,,he would rather go out "somewhere " where he can be an anonymous " imbecile "

Nailed it with the too cool part but you lost me with what followed

LOL....fair enough
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="spiderluck"] No bro ...what he's saying is that he is too cool for that,,,he would rather go out "somewhere " where he can be an anonymous " imbecile "

Nailed it with the too cool part but you lost me with what followed

LOL....fair enough

Is there something I'm missing here? Because I'd love to hear it if there is.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Lupin497"][QUOTE="BPoole96"] Did I ever say I had a problem with other people doing it? I said personally, I would never do it. But I also would never A. own a MS console and B. buy a Kinect. If I want to do something with my friends then we would go out somewhere, not gather round a TV and act like imbeciles.

Oh no, no, no, no, NO. What? People that like playing Kinect games are imbeciles? Is that what you are really saying? So because I am a man that likes to have some fun with my brother, his wife, and his kids playing Kinect games, that makes me a bad person?

Quit putting words in my mouth. People think Kinect is fun at first bc everyone looks goofy as hell while they play it and like to laugh at one another. Once the novelty wears off, you're left with a poorly functioning motion controller with no place in core games. Look what happened to Steel Battalion and Star Wars Kinect when it got the Kinect integration. Kinect is good for nothing aside from what I stated above.

Seriously if they don't get it down pat with kinect 2.0 this will become a fad tech...For me anyways
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[QUOTE="Lupin497"][QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="BPoole96"] Nailed it with the too cool part but you lost me with what followed

LOL....fair enough

Is there something I'm missing here? Because I'd love to hear it if there is.

No ....it's just that he has a valid point in terms of "core" games...although i'm with you on the having fun with the kids thingf