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#1 EvanTheGamer
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the number of systems banned for using pirated software would in the millions.

In case you haven't heard, M$ recently banned roughly 600k Xbox360's for this reason, LOL

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#3 Espada12
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Too bad legit gamers are getting banned as well...

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#4 EvanTheGamer
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Whew, thank god they're not doing that to us PC Gamers. I mean we all clearly pirate our games so we'd just be in a real pickle. Yep, Mmhmm. Yessir. Seriously, was there actually a point here?Skittles_McGee

lol Don't be in such denial, sir

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Whew, thank god they're not doing that to us PC Gamers. I mean we all clearly pirate our games so we'd just be in a real pickle. Yep, Mmhmm. Yessir. Seriously, was there actually a point here?EvanTheGamer

lol Don't be in such denial, sir

Uh... denial...? I don't have a single pirated game anywhere on any system, so what you're trying to tell me is that I'm a thief? How kind of you. However, the fact still remains I own every single game I have. I don't pirate, I'm completely against piracy.
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#6 Skittles_McGee
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Too bad legit gamers are getting banned as well...

Espada12
"Xbox gamer says" I stopped there. We're going to base this on word of mouth from one guy?
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#7 EvanTheGamer
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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Whew, thank god they're not doing that to us PC Gamers. I mean we all clearly pirate our games so we'd just be in a real pickle. Yep, Mmhmm. Yessir. Seriously, was there actually a point here?Skittles_McGee

lol Don't be in such denial, sir

Uh... denial...? I don't have a single pirated game anywhere on any system, so what you're trying to tell me is that I'm a thief? How kind of you. However, the fact still remains I own every single game I have. I don't pirate, I'm completely against piracy.

Good for you, but you sounded as if other people don't do it, especially for PC since it requires no hardware mods.

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#9 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

lol Don't be in such denial, sir

EvanTheGamer

Uh... denial...? I don't have a single pirated game anywhere on any system, so what you're trying to tell me is that I'm a thief? How kind of you. However, the fact still remains I own every single game I have. I don't pirate, I'm completely against piracy.

Good for you, but you sounded as if other people don't do it, especially for PC since it requires no hardware mods.

There are tons of people who don't. Sure its easier since there's no hardware mods, but there are other things you have to get around, DRM and the like. But at the end of the day, you're generalizing. The majority of PC gamers do not pirate.
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#10 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Too bad legit gamers are getting banned as well...

Skittles_McGee

"Xbox gamer says" I stopped there. We're going to base this on word of mouth from one guy?

Why not? It always takes one innocent to show why such a system is flawed. Why not read the article instead of stopping at Xbox gamer.. I don't see what's so ludicrous about that statement/title, whatever you want to call it.

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#11 -Feath-
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Yeah bro!!! every PC gamer pirates just cos we want everythin 4 free cos we r bettr than u guyz with ur lame hardware !! Please, grow up. For your own sake. There's a reason that the PC gaming industry is the most profitable out there. Might be something to do with people, I dunno, BUYING games? But since this pangs of logic I expect you to ignore this so you can live if your self righteous bubble of superiority.
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#12 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Too bad legit gamers are getting banned as well...

Espada12

"Xbox gamer says" I stopped there. We're going to base this on word of mouth from one guy?

Why not? It always takes one innocent to show why such a system is flawed. Why not read the article instead of stopping at Xbox gamer.. I don't see what's so ludicrous about that statement/title, whatever you want to call it.

Because its all based on what one guy said. I'd like to believe him, but why should I simply take his word for it.
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Valve will run PC gaming soon enough... :evil:
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] "Xbox gamer says" I stopped there. We're going to base this on word of mouth from one guy?Skittles_McGee

Why not? It always takes one innocent to show why such a system is flawed. Why not read the article instead of stopping at Xbox gamer.. I don't see what's so ludicrous about that statement/title, whatever you want to call it.

Because its all based on what one guy said. I'd like to believe him, but why should I simply take his word for it.

It's fine if you don't, but the point of that is... if he IS right, there is a flaw in the system which they ban these consoles.. which makes the entire action of doing so void. Think of it as the death penalty.. alot of people are against it because it's an absolute punishment that comes from a legal system that is never 100% correct. If he is legit and has been banned and I honestly do believe him, considering others have also complained about similar things on Xbox.com then I am going to say the actions taken due to this system are completely overboard and should not be conducted.

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#15 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Why not? It always takes one innocent to show why such a system is flawed. Why not read the article instead of stopping at Xbox gamer.. I don't see what's so ludicrous about that statement/title, whatever you want to call it.

Espada12

Because its all based on what one guy said. I'd like to believe him, but why should I simply take his word for it.

It's fine if you don't, but the point of that is... if he IS right, there is a flaw in the system which they ban these consoles.. which makes the entire action of doing so void. Think of it as the death penalty.. alot of people are against it because it's an absolute punishment that comes from a legal system that is never 100% correct. If he is legit and has been banned and I honestly do believe him, considering others have also complained about similar things on Xbox.com then I am going to say the actions taken due to this system are completely overboard and should not be conducted.

But thats just the thing. "If he is right", "if he is legit", etc. That's a lot of "if" to be passing judgment on. Sure, its entirely possible that some people will be banned unfairly, but thats to be expected. Nothing is perfect. Nothing ever has been, nothing ever will be. It might not be fair to those few, but they truly are just a few, if any.
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#16 HGAT
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I have had pirated games on my pc.

But hey lets not pretend, Sony,Nintendo, or any other company, wouldn't do the same, if the shoe was on the other foot.

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#17 h575309
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All this stupid ranting does is fuel the hate between console and pc gamers. Good job.

Whats with all the PC hate today anyway?

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#18 ninjabeaver1
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Too bad legit gamers are getting banned as well...

Skittles_McGee
"Xbox gamer says" I stopped there. We're going to base this on word of mouth from one guy?

Word of mouth usually begins with one guy...
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#19 naval
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At least we don't get charged for DLCs which the devs wanted for release for free or be stuck with some crappy hardware or be forced to pay some not so useful piece of hardware like teh cell or blu ray just because the single company running the console decided it like that
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#20 organic_machine
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But thats just the thing. "If he is right", "if he is legit", etc. That's a lot of "if" to be passing judgment on. Sure, its entirely possible that some people will be banned unfairly, but thats to be expected. Nothing is perfect. Nothing ever has been, nothing ever will be. It might not be fair to those few, but they truly are just a few, if any.Skittles_McGee

But this isn't about MS making a few mistakes.

This is about banning people for ANY modification, even if such modifications have nothing to do with piracy. For example, if you replace a broken disc drive, like I did with my Xbox. How the hell does a new disc drive mean that I pirate games? Or, in this guys supposed case, replacing the hard drive. Again, that equals piracy how?

After MS banning the use of third party memory cards, all the pieces are starting to come together.

They aren't just going after pirates, they are going after people smart enough to fix their own consoles instead of putting it though their wretched "customer service."

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#21 EvanTheGamer
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Yeah bro!!! every PC gamer pirates just cos we want everythin 4 free cos we r bettr than u guyz with ur lame hardware !! Please, grow up. For your own sake. There's a reason that the PC gaming industry is the most profitable out there. Might be something to do with people, I dunno, BUYING games? But since this pangs of logic I expect you to ignore this so you can live if your self righteous bubble of superiority.-Feath-

Another wrong post in everyway. Please contribute to the topic or say nothing at all.

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#22 foxhound_fox
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@Non-pirating/modding bans: Wow... I think something fishy is going on within MS.

As for the topic at hand... not all PC gamers are pirates... and neither are all 360 gamers. The fact you post an article about 360 piracy and then somehow direct that negatively at PC gamers shows something. And how you completely miss the fact that 360 gamers pirate games as much as PC gamers... the only reason it seems "more" on PC is because there are 10 times as many PC gamers out there than 360 gamers.

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#23 variablasted
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meh and those are just the stupid one's that decide to go online lol imagine how manyh more there are! =D

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Can you show me a single pirated PC game that one can play ONLINE on OFFICIAL servers (without an identity theft)? Ill wait...
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#25 Puckhog04
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Console piracy is like a pin prick compared to PC piracy. That's fact. I guarantee you'd have millions being banned from...PC? It just sounds odd. But, yea, there would be a hell of alot more if MS ran the PC.

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#26 gamer620
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Too bad legit gamers are getting banned as well...

Espada12

Who are you to say that that guy was actually a legit gamer? Maybe he and his wife know nothing about consoles? Maybe he bought the systems off the street? Maybe from a friend? Ebay? Craigs list? Any NUMBER of possibilities that could have tampered with his system without him even knowing about it. As it stands, that one article is all hearsay from a clearly irritated gamer who has had a number of past issues with the Xbox 360.

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#27 Bebi_vegeta
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Console piracy is like a pin prick compared to PC piracy. That's fact. I guarantee you'd have millions being banned from...PC? It just sounds odd. But, yea, there would be a hell of alot more if MS ran the PC.

Puckhog04

Maybe because there's more PC gamers?

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#28 Major_Reeves
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D'oh TC,

so isn't the console industry andeven that mw2 flopped on the pc, it's just 1 game, more will come, actually shattered horizon did...

And the simple fact that it is on the pc means that the game code can be changed and the features lost like dedicated servers and lean can be implemented if the mod community feels like it.

And since I'm talking about the the modding community, did you know that epic released freely their engine sdk for no profitable uses?

So again pc gaming is far, far, eons away from life support even more, death.

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#29 ChrisJ2004
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the number of systems banned for using pirated software would in the millions.

In case you haven't heard, M$ recently banned roughly 600k Xbox360's for this reason, LOL

EvanTheGamer

I thought only PC games were pirated? What? That's not true? That's what SW keeps telling me.

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#30 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Too bad legit gamers are getting banned as well...

gamer620

Who are you to say that that guy was actually a legit gamer? Maybe he and his wife know nothing about consoles? Maybe he bought the systems off the street? Maybe from a friend? Ebay? Craigs list? Any NUMBER of possibilities that could have tampered with his system without him even knowing about it. As it stands, that one article is all hearsay from a clearly irritated gamer who has had a number of past issues with the Xbox 360.

Already explained this..

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good luck trying to play a pirated l4d through steam, you will get banned along with all your games gone. pc piracy really isn't much worse than consoles, just pc gaming is much bigger world wide than consoles so it looks much worse.
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#32 Pixel-Pirate
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Too bad legit gamers are getting banned as well...

Espada12

Why am I not surprised? Knew innocent people would get screwed over.

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#33 Pixel-Pirate
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Valve will run PC gaming soon enough... :evil:loco145

So all PC will get is rehashed FPS' using the same engine for decades to come?

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PC is always full of win...oh but not for pirates.
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PC=WIN
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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Uh... denial...? I don't have a single pirated game anywhere on any system, so what you're trying to tell me is that I'm a thief? How kind of you. However, the fact still remains I own every single game I have. I don't pirate, I'm completely against piracy.Skittles_McGee

Good for you, but you sounded as if other people don't do it, especially for PC since it requires no hardware mods.

There are tons of people who don't. Sure its easier since there's no hardware mods, but there are other things you have to get around, DRM and the like. But at the end of the day, you're generalizing. The majority of PC gamers do not pirate.



Majority of people that player single-player pc games are pirates.

THQ shows piracy rates in the US are high as 80%

http://www.slashgear.com/thq-pegs-pc-piracy-rate-as-high-as-80-0410576/

PC piracy denial train pulling into the station in 5...4...3...2...

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Good for you, but you sounded as if other people don't do it, especially for PC since it requires no hardware mods.

dc337

There are tons of people who don't. Sure its easier since there's no hardware mods, but there are other things you have to get around, DRM and the like. But at the end of the day, you're generalizing. The majority of PC gamers do not pirate.



Majority of people that player single-player pc games are pirates.

THQ shows piracy rates in the US are high as 80%

http://www.slashgear.com/thq-pegs-pc-piracy-rate-as-high-as-80-0410576/

PC piracy denial train pulling into the station in 5...4...3...2...

So you concluded this by stating a figure that is for US citizens only?

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#38 dc337
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[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] There are tons of people who don't. Sure its easier since there's no hardware mods, but there are other things you have to get around, DRM and the like. But at the end of the day, you're generalizing. The majority of PC gamers do not pirate.Espada12



Majority of people that player single-player pc games are pirates.

THQ shows piracy rates in the US are high as 80%

http://www.slashgear.com/thq-pegs-pc-piracy-rate-as-high-as-80-0410576/

PC piracy denial train pulling into the station in 5...4...3...2...

So you concluded this by stating a figure that is for US citizens only?



What you suggesting then? That world rates are lower? That US rates don't matter?

Anyways here's a European game for you
http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/01/05/championship-manager-has-90-percent-piracy-rate-according-to-de/

PC piracy denial train has pulled into the station.
CHOOCHOO

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Majority of people that player single-player pc games are pirates. dc337
and you think those pirates actialy buy the MP games? lmao. Even with piracy games with SP still generaly sell a lot better better than MP centric ones. Still...you think it's better on consoles? If so not by much. You still get about 30% or less of people who actualy pay devs for the games they play
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#40 skrat_01
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Computers =/= consoles. Open OS =/= closed limited OS. And yet the PC has the most game developers working on it as a platform. How pecuilar.
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Skittles_McGee

There are tons of people who don't. Sure its easier since there's no hardware mods, but there are other things you have to get around, DRM and the like. But at the end of the day, you're generalizing. The majority of PC gamers do not pirate.

Skittles is right EvantheGamer. I own a PC in fact every console and not one of my games are pirated. There are a lot of people out there who happen to be honest so this post is irrelevent. Piracy is bull crap and I am against any one who does it.

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#42 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="dc337"]

Majority of people that player single-player pc games are pirates.

THQ shows piracy rates in the US are high as 80%

http://www.slashgear.com/thq-pegs-pc-piracy-rate-as-high-as-80-0410576/

PC piracy denial train pulling into the station in 5...4...3...2...

dc337

So you concluded this by stating a figure that is for US citizens only?



What you suggesting then? That world rates are lower? That US rates don't matter?

Anyways here's a European game for you
http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/01/05/championship-manager-has-90-percent-piracy-rate-according-to-de/

PC piracy denial train has pulled into the station.
CHOOCHOO

Do you even grasp the concept of the marketing costs involved in the console industry? PC games cost a fraction of that.... Oh and can you explain why 2k Sports suddenly decided to port the NBA games (a console exclusive to boot) to the pirate ridden PC? Why EA ported Burnout to PC? Ill wait.